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1. 12:52 AM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. ()
2. 03:24 AM - Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Thom Riddle)
3. 04:15 AM - Re: Re: Cuyuna engine failure (Dana Hague)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Jack B. Hart)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (b young)
6. 07:48 AM - Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Thom Riddle)
7. 09:31 AM - Re: Cuyuna engine failure (Mrikio)
8. 09:49 AM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Dana Hague)
9. 09:49 AM - Summer flying (frank goodnight)
10. 10:19 AM - Re: Summer flying (John Hauck)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Cuyuna engine failure (John Hauck)
12. 10:34 AM - Re: John Hauck (william sullivan)
13. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: John Hauck (John Hauck)
14. 11:11 AM - Re: Summer flying (TheWanderingWench)
15. 11:13 AM - Re: John Hauck (william sullivan)
16. 11:22 AM - Re: Summer flying (Larry Cottrell)
17. 12:19 PM - Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Jason Omelchuck)
18. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (HShack@aol.com)
19. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Fran Losey)
20. 01:10 PM - Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Thom Riddle)
21. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (John Hauck)
22. 01:47 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (Larry Cottrell)
23. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: John Hauck (lhaggerty)
24. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (robert bean)
25. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. (zeprep251@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
My MK111c is indicating 73mph at 6200rpm { calm conditions ,drops off fast
in a head wind }and about 68 at 5900 . Engine sounds happy at the higher rpm
and runs cooler .The engine is a 503 . The 503 will turn at 6600 WOT on
climb out. Have had just on 90mph down hill WOT , sorry can not remember
what the RPM was.
Downunder
MK111c 503
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From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:36 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft.
>
> Hello all,
>
> I would be very interested in how fast people are able to cruise in their
> Kolbs. State the model of Kolb, engine, RPM, airspeed and any other notes
> you may feel are revelant. I guess John has gone first, so I will go
> second.
>
> MKIII, Yamaha Vector, 7000rpm, 70MPH. My engine does not have a published
> RPM so I cruise between 7000 and 7300RPM at 70mph to 75mph. If I fly
> faster than 75, my right door dimples in.
>
> Jason
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
>>
>> > I hope you get back in the air soon John. Your Kolb is indeed very
>> > fast,
>> > both mine and the other MK III here in Miami cruise at 70 MPH. It
>> > just
>> > feels really good there, I could do 75, but after that I just hit a
>> > wall
>> > and am burning so much more gas to and almost full power to hit 80.
>> > I
>> > am very happy with 70 MPH at less than 4 GPH and 4200 RPM cruise, it
>> > feels
>> > perfect. The other Kolb, Fat albert has an 80 HP 912, and cruises at
>> > almost the exact same speed as mine.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> mike b/gang:
>>
>> Thanks to you and all the other Kolbers who have expressed your concern
>> about my recent unfortune.
>>
>> Wonder what the difference is?
>>
>> Right now I know four other MKIIIc's that fly like mine:
>>
>> Gary Haley, 912ULS
>> John Bickham, 912UL
>> Bruce Chaisson, 912ULS
>> Steven Green, 912ULS
>>
>> john h
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=299600#299600
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
Slingshot with Jabiru 2200A 80hp engine.
The max rpm achievable in S&L flight with the current prop is 3168 though the redline
is 3300 where the max hp of 80 is achieved. These numbers were with the
big 800x6 tires and taken at about 1,500' density altitude.
Numbers are in attached image.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do
it.
- Pablo Picasso
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Subject: | Re: Cuyuna engine failure |
At 12:11 AM 6/2/2010, Mrikio wrote:
>My cylinder base gasket has been leaking a little,takes a few hours to get
>some residue around the flange. Dont think it is an issue,hasnt worsened
>in 30+hours
That's a big no-no. ANY air leak in a 2-stroke engine is bad news! That
would explain the hot cylinder, and in the worse case could cause a
seizure. Cuyuna base bolts tend to loosen, and unfortunately the Kolb
mount design makes it impossible to get at them. You need to remove the
engine mount bolt (I use straps to keep it more or less in place) and
retorque the cylinder base bolts.
The power loss may be a different issue, though. It sounds like carb ice,
and has happened to me, too, but on another occasion I experienced a
similar power loss but quicker. I never was 100% certain, but I believe it
was the carb float needle, allowing the engine to flood (I had also noticed
some fuel on the floor of my trailer under the engine, but dismissed it).
-Dana
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
http://forums.matronics.com//files/n64086_numbers_230.jpg is a good example
of how far you can travel by slowing up. Drag increases with the square of
the velocity. With this performance and if one is not flying into a head
wind, one could get almost ten miles per gallon further by slowing up.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
http://forums.matronics.com//files/n64086_numbers_230.jpg is a good example
of how far you can travel by slowing up. Drag increases with the square of
the velocity. With this performance and if one is not flying into a head
wind, one could get almost ten miles per gallon further by slowing up.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
????????????????????????
Do not archive.
I checked out your spread sheet. And I extended your graph to include 100
mph. I did this by determining the hp difference in the previous two 5 mph
jumps. There is an old statement that says,,, to double the speed
requires 4 times the hp. Seems that your chart is very close to this
statement. The one thing I had never done was check the mpg at different
power settings. Thank you for your effort.
Boyd Young
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
Nobody asked so if you are not interested in more detail about the data in my table,
now is the time to move on to next post. However, I suspect one or two might
be interested in the extra detail, so here it is.
FYI regarding my spreadsheet table data.
The TAS and Engine RPM were taken from actual testing, multiple times. The TAS
being the average of GPS groundspeeds straight upwind and downwind. All of this
was done at about 1,500' density altitude.
The HP being developed(absorbed by the prop) and the fuel burn rate (GPH) was from
the Prop Selector program assuming a fixed fuel consumption rate per horsepower
hour, .42 lb/hp/hr quoted by Jabiru. As it turns out, the effective pitch
of my prop 64x31 is closer to 39" according to the Prop Selector.
The MPG was a simple division of MPH by GPH.
If you look carefully at the data, you may notice a wrinkle in the MPG numbers
between 65 mph and 75 mph, wherein the 70 mph airspeed yields a slightly better
MPG than either side of this number. Either my numbers were off a bit during
the testing or this happens to be the best speed for my Slinghsot that is a
compromise between time-to-destination and fuel burn/mile. I suspect it is the
later since these numbers are averages of multiple tests on different days.
At higher density altitudes one can expect higher TAS for a given engine power
output but it takes more throttle opening and higher RPM (fixed pitch prop) to
get the same power output. I flew an hour plus taxi and warmup time this morning
and climbed to 8,000' DA and measured a TAS of 84.5 mph at the same power
setting as I see 80 mph at 1,500' DA. The rpm to achieve the same power at the
higher DA I calculated to be about 2850 instead of 2712 at 1,500' DA. To maintain
same power setting for a full hour, I did the climb at the same constant
power setting gradually increasing rpm at a rate of about 25 rpm per 1,000' of
increase in DA. After landing and refilling. I calculated my new fuel burn rate
at this power setting to be about 3.5 gph. So, at altitude, I can expect about
24 mpg at about 84 mph.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do
it.
- Pablo Picasso
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Subject: | Re: Cuyuna engine failure |
OK........ Think its solved
To answer a previous post the cyl temps were 60-70 deg higher than normal,but not
over the limit.I reduced throttle when I heard a power reduction and that dropped
the temps more.I know from experience,when an engine stops,or wants to,full
throttle will often kill it . A little power has helped me to find a better
place to land 3 times so far.
Fuel system checked out fine,from tank pickup to the carb. My system is probably
the simplest out there..worked flawlessly on my phantom for 7yrs,200+hrs.
A friend was helping me pull it down the other day,he said he checked the bottom
of the bowl....I decided to check it again. Scraped the bottom of the cap that
screws on the bottom of the bowl.....HHHUUMMM found a piece of dead grass
1/4" long and about .020 in diameter.
It was curved on the inside edge of the cap,and the same color. I can see why it
was missed,when it dislodged,I thought the cap was flaking aluminum. It was
hidden VERY well,but this time I dried the bowl out.
I suspect carb ice also,and now that I remember,I reduced the throttle as soon
as there was a problem,then tried to advance it to see if it was just loaded up.
Flew it again today(TUES) for 30 min....same normal temps.At cruise,CHTs were 260
.255 EGT was about 1200 or so.
The fix?? the grass must have come up the vent tubes,so I will put a screen over
them.(I fly out of grass,some of it gets a little high.)
Also checked the torque on the cyl bolts...they are good.
I thought John H would have a list of things for me to check,since he has a lot
of time on them.
Thanks to the list members who helped.....flying again,still working on the GENERAC
conversion....
--------
Mark R
Kolb Modified US Cuyuna UL2 60+hrs
Kolb Twinstar,503,12hrs
Phantom, Kaw 440 250hrs
SE-5A UL 3 hrs
Eipper Quick, Chrysler power Bee 8hrs
PA28-140...350hrs
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
At 10:01 AM 6/2/2010, b young wrote:
>There is an old statement that says,,, to double the speed
>requires 4 times the hp...
Actually, to double the speed (all other things being equal) it takes 8
times the power to double the speed. It's not quite equal, of course, and
thus not quite 8X as at higher speeds the AOA and thus the induced drag
will be less.
-Dana
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Hi all,
After a rather eventful and unsuccessful try at flying from Los Lunas , New Mexico
to MV this year, I think it is about
time for me to learn something about flying at high DA. So I rented a place at
Mid Valley Airpark in Los Lunas where
Mike and Jan Marker Live. Hopefully after 2 months flying from there I'll be able
to handle a higher environment than the 35 ft above sea level that i'm used
to here in Brownsville , TX
Frank Goodnight
Firestar 2
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Subject: | Re: Summer flying |
Frank G/Gang:
Good idea.
There are many interesting places to fly in the local area.
It takes me a while to transition from sea level to higher altitudes
every time I fly West.
john h
I rented a place at Mid Valley Airpark in Los Lunas
where
Mike and Jan Marker Live. Hopefully after 2 months
flying from there I'll be able to handle a higher environment than the
35 ft above sea level that i'm used to here in Brownsville , TX
Frank Goodnight
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Subject: | Re: Cuyuna engine failure |
> I thought John H would have a list of things for me to check,since he has
a lot of time on them.
>
> Thanks to the list members who helped.....flying again,still working on
> the GENERAC conversion....
>
> --------
> Mark R
Mark R/Gang:
Sorry to have disappointed you, although I did respond with what I would
have done if it was my problem.
Actually, the way I solved all my two stroke problems was to buy my first
912UL in 1994.
To make the attached photos Kolb related, this is what the average Kolb
builder/pilot looks like.
john h - 3 weeks into rehab
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- John- I know about the leg, but how much damage to the hand?- I don't
recall a damage report on it.
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---------------------- Bill Sul
livan
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---------------------- get well
soon
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Compression fracture little finger right hand.
Thus, reduced to one usable hand and foot. Not enough to fly a Kolb.
Another reason for punctuation and other errors. Typing with one finger
and a load pain killers.
Of all the crashes in airplanes, mountain bikes, dirt bikes, and atv's,
this freak accident finally got me, but it took 71 years to do.
Throwing in two years of combat in VN, SF then flying gun ships, this is
my first cast.
I'm looking forward to a lot more enjoyment flying and traveling in my
mkIII before I hang up my hat. I should be back in the cockpit by 1
Sep.
john h
mkIII
John- I know about the leg, but how much damage to the hand?
I don't recall a damage report on it.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
get well soon
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Subject: | Re: Summer flying |
Wow, Frank - I'm impressed with your dedication to learning to fly at highe
r altitudes. And what fun to be flying out of the same airport as Mike and
Jan.-
Arty TrostSandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
=0A
=0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
=0A Helen Keller
=0A
=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
--- On Wed, 6/2/10, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Summer flying
Hi all,
After a rather eventful and unsuccessful -try at flying from Los Lunas ,
=0A New Mexico to MV this year, I think it is abouttime for me to learn som
ething about flying at high DA. So I rented -a place at Mid Valley Airpar
k in Los Lunas whereMike and Jan Marker Live. Hopefully after 2 months flyi
ng from there I'll be able to handle a higher environment than the 35 ft ab
ove sea level that i'm used to here in Brownsville , TX-
Frank GoodnightFirestar 2=0A=0A=0A
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- John, do what I did every time I was laid up.- Keep flexing muscles-
isometrics, they used to call it.- After my accident, 16 weeks later I ju
st got up and walked.- A little stiff and sore, but didn't need rehab bec
ause of all the cheating.- The worst time was when I was in a cast and lo
st all the meat on one foot.- Took quite a while to come back from that o
ne.- That, and the time they operated for carpal tunnel on both hands at
once.- Fun time in the bathroom with that one!
- You can still drive the Kolb with an elbow and your knees.- Doug Bade
r showed how to do without both legs.
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do not archive
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-------------------- Bill Sullivan
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Subject: | Re: Summer flying |
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
Hello All,
These are the kind of numbers that just confound me. I am running almost 100 hp
at my 70mph cruise and here is someone flying 73mph using a little less than
50hp. What can cause that much of a disparity? This has always fascinated me.
Jason
MKIII
Portland, OR
aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz wrote:
> My MK111c is indicating 73mph at 6200rpm { calm conditions ,drops off fast
> in a head wind }and about 68 at 5900 . Engine sounds happy at the higher rpm
> and runs cooler .The engine is a 503 . The 503 will turn at 6600 WOT on
> climb out. Have had just on 90mph down hill WOT , sorry can not remember
> what the RPM was.
> Downunder
> MK111c 503
>
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FS II, "C" box 3.47:1, 3 blade 68" Kiev prop, 503DCDI, 65mph @ 5500 rpm
In a message dated 6/1/2010 2:37:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jason@trek-tech.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
Hello all,
I would be very interested in how fast people are able to cruise in their
Kolbs. State the model of Kolb, engine, RPM, airspeed and any other notes
you may feel are revelant. I guess John has gone first, so I will go second.
MKIII, Yamaha Vector, 7000rpm, 70MPH. My engine does not have a published
RPM so I cruise between 7000 and 7300RPM at 70mph to 75mph. If I fly
faster than 75, my right door dimples in.
Jason
John Hauck wrote:
>
> > I hope you get back in the air soon John. Your Kolb is indeed very
fast,
> > both mine and the other MK III here in Miami cruise at 70 MPH. It
just
> > feels really good there, I could do 75, but after that I just hit a
wall
> > and am burning so much more gas to and almost full power to hit 80.
I
> > am very happy with 70 MPH at less than 4 GPH and 4200 RPM cruise, it
feels
> > perfect. The other Kolb, Fat albert has an 80 HP 912, and cruises at
> > almost the exact same speed as mine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> mike b/gang:
>
> Thanks to you and all the other Kolbers who have expressed your concern
> about my recent unfortune.
>
> Wonder what the difference is?
>
> Right now I know four other MKIIIc's that fly like mine:
>
> Gary Haley, 912ULS
> John Bickham, 912UL
> Bruce Chaisson, 912ULS
> Steven Green, 912ULS
>
> john h
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
I am not an expert at all here, but look at the profile of the engines you are
comparing...sure looks like drag to me, all other factors being equal of course.
------Original Message------
From: Jason Omelchuck
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ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft.
Sent: Jun 2, 2010 15:18
Hello All,
These are the kind of numbers that just confound me. I am running almost 100 hp
at my 70mph cruise and here is someone flying 73mph using a little less than
50hp. What can cause that much of a disparity? This has always fascinated me.
Jason
MKIII
Portland, OR
aoldman(at)xtra.co.nz wrote:
> My MK111c is indicating 73mph at 6200rpm { calm conditions ,drops off fast
> in a head wind }and about 68 at 5900 . Engine sounds happy at the higher rpm
> and runs cooler .The engine is a 503 . The 503 will turn at 6600 WOT on
> climb out. Have had just on 90mph down hill WOT , sorry can not remember
> what the RPM was.
> Downunder
> MK111c 503
>
> ---
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
Another variable, sometimes a pretty big one, is the accuracy of the airspeed indicator
and location of pitot and static source. I don't know how many of the
quoted numbers are TAS vs IAS. In most of the experimental airplanes I've owned,
and even the SLSA I owned, the ASIs are notoriously inaccurate. That is why
I take the little extra trouble to find the wind direction and makes runs directly
upwind and then down wind to get the average GPS groundspeed, which is
TAS.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
I am always doing that which I can not do, in order that I may learn how to do
it.
- Pablo Picasso
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
> I am not an expert at all here, but look at the profile of the engines
you are comparing...sure looks like drag to me, all other factors being
equal of course.
Fran L
Fran/Gang:
My mkIII has been powered by 65, 80 and 95 hp engines.
Top speed has always been right at 95 mph.
Cruise speeds:
65 hp - 80 mph 5,800 rpm 582
80 hp - 85 mph 5,000 rpm 912UL
95 hp - 88 mph 5,000 rpm 912ULS
Kolbs are unique airplanes. The performance of a Kolb is the direct result
of how it is built, how tight the fabric is shrunk, and how well it is
finished. These are just a few of the contributing factors. There are
others. Fine tuning stuff means a lot. The prop is the only connection
between the engine and the air. Fine tuning a prop is critical, all 3
blades the same pitch.
Pitch it WOT, straight and level flight, so it will just barely bump the max
continuous rpm red line. Works for my airplanes and my boats. In fact,
that is where I got the technique from 26 years ago, from selecting boat
props.
Top speed of my US and FS were both 85 mph, 35 and 40 hp respectively, using
the same Winter venturi type asi that requires no static source, the monster
that screws up asi calibration.
Let me go back to fabric a second. Kolb wing bottoms are flat when they are
not flying. In the air they are concave, the amount dependent on how tight
the fabric is. Most builders stop shrinking before the fabric starts
pulling tubes. I shrink to 350F, bend tubes, and my fabric is tight as a
snare drum. Same shrinking philosophy on all three my airplanes. All good
performers. Could be I have flatter wing bottoms than most.
Again, my airplanes, my thoughts. I'll put my mkIII up against anyone
else's. I like competition.
Always said my mkIII was pretty much an 85 mph airplane no matter what I did
to it. No matter how much hp I put on it, it would still be an 85 mph
airplane.
I don't tune for economy. I tune for performance and reliability. Been
able to back that up with actual successful flights over the years.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft. |
FS II two blade warp, HKS 64 MPH @5300, heavy aircraft.
Larry
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From: HShack@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft.
FS II, "C" box 3.47:1, 3 blade 68" Kiev prop, 503DCDI, 65mph @ 5500
rpm
In a message dated 6/1/2010 2:37:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jason@trek-tech.com writes:
<jason@trek-tech.com>
Hello all,
I would be very interested in how fast people are able to cruise in
their Kolbs. State the model of Kolb, engine, RPM, airspeed and any
other notes you may feel are revelant. I guess John has gone first, so I
will go second.
MKIII, Yamaha Vector, 7000rpm, 70MPH. My engine does not have a
published RPM so I cruise between 7000 and 7300RPM at 70mph to 75mph.
If I fly faster than 75, my right door dimples in.
Jason
John Hauck wrote:
>
> > I hope you get back in the air soon John. Your Kolb is indeed
very fast,
> > both mine and the other MK III here in Miami cruise at 70 MPH.
It just
> > feels really good there, I could do 75, but after that I just
hit a wall
> > and am burning so much more gas to and almost full power to hit
80. I
> > am very happy with 70 MPH at less than 4 GPH and 4200 RPM
cruise, it feels
> > perfect. The other Kolb, Fat albert has an 80 HP 912, and
cruises at
> > almost the exact same speed as mine.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
>
> mike b/gang:
>
> Thanks to you and all the other Kolbers who have expressed your
concern
> about my recent unfortune.
>
> Wonder what the difference is?
>
> Right now I know four other MKIIIc's that fly like mine:
>
> Gary Haley, 912ULS
> John Bickham, 912UL
> Bruce Chaisson, 912ULS
> Steven Green, 912ULS
>
> john h
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Love your sense of humor Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
To: kolb list
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: John Hauck
John, do what I did every time I was laid up. Keep flexing
muscles- isometrics, they used to call it. After my accident, 16 weeks
later I just got up and walked. A little stiff and sore, but didn't
need rehab because of all the cheating. The worst time was when I was
in a cast and lost all the meat on one foot. Took quite a while to come
back from that one. That, and the time they operated for carpal tunnel
on both hands at once. Fun time in the bathroom with that one!
You can still drive the Kolb with an elbow and your knees.
Doug Bader showed how to do without both legs.
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
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MkIII, 1.0 suzuki, two blade 70" warp. Full throttle climb 5400,
cruise 4700/65-68 mph
Haven't tried full throttle straight and level in a couple years. Not
interested because it's uncomfortable.
weight me: about 168 today. Getting fat
weight mkIII; last time I weighed was over 600 lbs. A lot of stuff has
been added since. Obese. Amazing it gets off the ground.
BB
On 2, Jun 2010, at 4:46 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> FS II two blade warp, HKS 64 MPH @5300, heavy aircraft.
> Larry
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HShack@aol.com
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft.
>
> FS II, "C" box 3.47:1, 3 blade 68" Kiev prop, 503DCDI, 65mph @ 5500
rpm
>
> In a message dated 6/1/2010 2:37:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jason@trek-tech.com writes:
<jason@trek-tech.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I would be very interested in how fast people are able to cruise in
their Kolbs. State the model of Kolb, engine, RPM, airspeed and any
other notes you may feel are revelant. I guess John has gone first, so I
will go second.
>
> MKIII, Yamaha Vector, 7000rpm, 70MPH. My engine does not have a
published RPM so I cruise between 7000 and 7300RPM at 70mph to 75mph.
If I fly faster than 75, my right door dimples in.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
> >
> > > I hope you get back in the air soon John. Your Kolb is indeed
very fast,
> > > both mine and the other MK III here in Miami cruise at 70 MPH.
It just
> > > feels really good there, I could do 75, but after that I just hit
a wall
> > > and am burning so much more gas to and almost full power to hit
80. I
> > > am very happy with 70 MPH at less than 4 GPH and 4200 RPM cruise,
it feels
> > > perfect. The other Kolb, Fat albert has an 80 HP 912, and
cruises at
> > > almost the exact same speed as mine.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > mike b/gang:
> >
> > Thanks to you and all the other Kolbers who have expressed your
concern
> > about my recent unfortune.
> >
> > Wonder what the difference is?
> >
> > Right now I know four other MKIIIc's that fly like mine:
> >
> > Gary Haley, 912ULS
> > John Bickham, 912UL
> > Bruce Chaisson, 912ULS
> > Steven Green, 912ULS
> >
> > john h
>
>
>
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Hi all,
Mk3C jabiru cruise 2700rpm70mph 3100rpm flat out 85mph. Stall solo 28 mph
indicated,w/VGs
G.Aman
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Sent: Tue, Jun 1, 2010 7:24 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Hauck Ramblings On Kolb aircraft.
Hello all.... M3X..
90 mph @ 2900 rpm Jabiru A-2200 Mostly cruise @ 80 @ 2800...
chris ambrose
M3X ? Jabiru A-2200 85 hp 137.00hrs
N327CS
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