Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/14/10


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:57 AM - Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (Ratherfly)
     2. 05:02 AM - Re: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (Richard Neilsen)
     3. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (John Hauck)
     4. 06:11 AM - Re: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (zeprep251@aol.com)
     5. 11:39 AM - Help with elevator cable (Frank Fanelli)
     6. 11:53 AM - Re: Help with elevator cable (b young)
     7. 05:49 PM - Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (Ratherfly)
     8. 06:15 PM - Re: Help with elevator cable (Richard Pike)
     9. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip (chris davis)
    10. 07:45 PM - Elevator trim (clrprop)
    11. 08:07 PM - Re: Elevator trim (Mike Welch)
    12. 09:41 PM - Re: Elevator trim (clrprop)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:57:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    From: "Ratherfly" <longmeadowfarm@aol.com>
    http://longmeadow.vflyer.com/home/flyer/home/3291623 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301132#301132


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    Time: 05:02:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    From: Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
    Once was well... not right but twice is really wrong. This is a Kolb web site not for your personal home sales. Please stop. Richard Neilsen 1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Ratherfly <longmeadowfarm@aol.com> wrote: > > http://longmeadow.vflyer.com/home/flyer/home/3291623 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301132#301132 > >


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    Time: 05:34:52 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    I echo Rick Neilsen's sentiments. You are off base and out of line. We build and fly Kolb aircraft here. Try Barn Stormers. I don't have a half million dollars for a new home. Besides, I already have an airstrip. john hauck mkIII ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ratherfly" <longmeadowfarm@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 4:56 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip > > http://longmeadow.vflyer.com/home/flyer/home/3291623 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301132#301132 > > >


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    Time: 06:11:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    How did this get past Matt? -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 8:27 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip I echo Rick Neilsen's sentiments. You are off base and out of line. We build and fly Kolb aircraft here. Try Barn Stormers. I don't have a half million dollars for a new home. Besides, I already ha ve an airstrip. john hauck mkIII ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ratherfly" <longmeadowfarm@aol.com> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 4:56 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip > > http://longmeadow.vflyer.com/home/flyer/home/3291623 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301132#301132 > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============


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    Time: 11:39:05 AM PST US
    From: Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>
    Subject: Help with elevator cable
    Hi: Bought a used, high time (740 hours) Firestar back in January, and have been attending to the usual maintenance issues, all non-airworthy items. Flew the plane three times so far and it is a real delight compared to the Quicksilvers I flew for about 12 years. During the preflight check before the fourth flight Friday (6/11), I hear a scraping noise under the seat during the preflight check of the controls. Thought at first it was something under the seat rubbing against the cable, but nothing there. The visible part of the cable looked and felt okay. Discovered that one of the elevator cables was slightly frayed just aft of the pulley. Couldn't see it, but could feel it. So, no more flying until the cables are replaced. Called Kolb and got the part numbers for all the cable components but I don't have a set plans, just the building instructions. Nothing much in there about the procedure for re-installing the cables, so I'm asking for some guidance. I do know they need to be taut, and each cable must stay that way when the stick is moved forward and back. Also know that one cable can't go slack when the other is taut. Also need to know if the economy swaging tools (the screw type) can be used easily when doing this. Welcome your insights. Frank Fanelli New Jersey


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    Time: 11:53:09 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Help with elevator cable
    Frank Can't help with plans.... but seems you have one to copy. If you tie a small rope to one end and pull it through... make a new cable the same length as the old. Then pull back in place with the rope to reinstall. The only problem with this is if there had been any major stretch to the cable. In which case you would make it a bit shorter, you could check for this by seeing how much adjustment is in the turnbuckle. Middle of the adjustment make the same length,,, adjustment all the way in,,, make it a bit shorter, so you will have room to adjust again. The economy swaging tool seem to work ok for me. Boyd Young MKIII 640 hours Utah >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Called Kolb and got the part numbers for all the cable components but I don't have a set plans, just the building instructions. Nothing much in there about the procedure for re-installing the cables, so I'm asking for some guidance. I do know they need to be taut, and each cable must stay that way when the stick is moved forward and back. Also know that one cable can't go slack when the other is taut. Also need to know if the economy swaging tools (the screw type) can be used easily when doing this. Welcome your insights. Frank Fanelli


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    Time: 05:49:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    From: "Ratherfly" <longmeadowfarm@aol.com>
    I am very sorry, I didn't mean to offend, just trying to help my friends sell their property to pilots. Please delete my posting. Best Regards, Tina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301245#301245


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    Time: 06:15:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help with elevator cable
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    frankf(at)flying-models.c wrote: > Hi: > > Also need to know if the economy swaging tools (the screw type) can be > used easily when doing this. Welcome your insights. > Frank Fanelli > New Jersey Yep, one like this is all you need. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/no2swageit.php Doesn't hurt to practice a bit with some extra cable and waste a few sleeves if you've not done any before. IMO, a box end wrench is easier than a socket and ratchet. Run one bolt down a bit, then the other, then back, etc. Clamping the tool in a vise while you are doing things also helps. If you are having trouble keeping the wires the tension and position you want, small split bolt grounding clamps are useful to keep everything in position and won't hurt your cables. http://www.summitsource.com/product_info.php?ref=1&products_id=7768 I like to use two sleeves per thimble and also cut the ends off the thimbles first, makes them fit better and they will not get loose. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301248#301248


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    Time: 07:23:00 PM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip
    Thank you, and, Oscar was RIGHT ! Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ----- Original Message ---- From: Ratherfly <longmeadowfarm@aol.com> Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 8:49:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Middle Tennessee Home with Airstrip I am very sorry, I didn't mean to offend, just trying to help my friends sell their property to pilots. Please delete my posting. Best Regards, Tina Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301245#301245


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    Time: 07:45:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Elevator trim
    From: "clrprop" <ktony@windstream.net>
    The elevator trim on my Mark III is set up so that it takes full forward on the lever just to give me neutral elevator. How do I correct so that lever is at mid point for neutral elevator? K. Toney SC 582 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301256#301256


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    Time: 08:07:28 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Elevator trim
    > The elevator trim on my Mark III is set up so that it takes full forward on the lever just to give me neutral elevator. How do I correct so that lev er is at mid point for neutral elevator? > > K. Toney > SC > 582 K.Toney=2C On my MkIII=2C there's a long steel strap (that I fabricated according to the plans)=2C that goes from the double spring arrangment to the lever arm of the trim ta b. If I needed to correct my tension like you say you need to do=2C I'd si mply relocate the present hole in the strap to a closer hole on the strap =2C thereby shortening the effective cable length. At any rate=2C you should be able to redo your strap mount a hole or two shorter. Mike Welch MkIII _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3


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    Time: 09:41:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Elevator trim
    From: "clrprop" <ktony@windstream.net>
    Thanks Mike, I'll check to see if I can adjust like you said. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301263#301263




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