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1. 03:30 AM - Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Jimmy Young)
2. 03:49 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Robert Laird)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend ()
4. 04:47 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (russ kinne)
5. 05:21 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Gene & Tammy)
6. 06:24 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (ces308)
7. 06:26 AM - service bulletin (robert bean)
8. 07:38 AM - Re: Fuel Lines (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN)
9. 07:38 AM - Re: service bulletin (John Hauck)
10. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Lines (Sky Biker Richardson)
11. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Lines (Gene & Tammy)
12. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Richard Girard)
13. 09:23 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (chris davis)
14. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Richard Girard)
15. 10:28 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (frank goodnight)
16. 10:39 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (frank goodnight)
17. 10:41 AM - Re: Help with elevator cable (David Lucas)
18. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Dennis Souder)
19. 04:53 PM - Questions about Firestar Gross Weight (Mystic)
20. 05:14 PM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Jimmy Young)
21. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Gene & Tammy)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: Questions about Firestar Gross Weight (Ralph B)
23. 07:08 PM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
24. 08:54 PM - Bolding going where a few have gone before; the HKS (Robert Dresden)
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Subject: | Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
List,
I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and
got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the
Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but
I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
Jimmy Y
FS II, 320 hrs
HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Very nice, Jimmy! For those who don't live in the area, off in the distance
is the San Jacinto Monument, which commemorates the site of the Battle of
San Jacinto, the decisive battle of the Texas Revolution. It's even taller
than the Washington Monument, topped by a big Texas star!
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> List,
>
> I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off
> early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which
> crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of
> bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
>
> HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
>
> Jimmy Y
> FS II, 320 hrs
> HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
A most excellent photo. This is what I like about this list. We may differ
on how to build or even fly our Kolb's , but we can not disagree that the
places they take us to or the things we see from them have no equal . From
one side of the world to the other Kolbs are veiwing the best there is to
see on this planet .
Fly safe
MK111c
Down under
0 deg c until 10am today. clear skys no wind , only work to get in the way
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
>
> List,
>
> I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off
> early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge
> which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the
> world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the
> photo.
>
> HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
>
> Jimmy Y
> FS II, 320 hrs
> HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Jimmy
Great pic, and a great bridge -- famous or not. Good job!
But your pix would be MUCH better if you used a polarizing filter.
Try it -- or at least shoot thru one lens of polarized sunglasses as
a test. Won't be sharp but you can see what it does.
Russ K
do not archive
On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Jimmy Young wrote:
>
> List,
>
> I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took
> off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman
> bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or
> famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-
> big file size on the photo.
>
> HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
>
> Jimmy Y
> FS II, 320 hrs
> HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend
for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an airport
or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet
(too sick with Chemo).
Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:30 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
>
> List,
>
> I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off
> early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge
> which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the
> world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the
> photo.
>
> HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
>
> Jimmy Y
> FS II, 320 hrs
> HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Hello all!
Nice Pix Jim! I love seeing everyones pictures and there is no better place to
see this beautiful earth than from out little airplanes ! I took a 350 mi trip
with my M3X that weekend too.It was the first long X country with the airplane
and she performed great ! Here is the link if anyone wants to see...
Have a great weekend everyone!
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=49673&id=1651000323&l=ec62c0b91c
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 138.0 hrs
N327CS
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Subject: | service bulletin |
Rotax 912 Engines Draw FAA SAIB
Thu, 17 Jun '10
Fuel Pumps May Cause Engine Flooding, Fuel Leaks Due To Overpressure
The FAA has issued a Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB)
for certain part number fuel pumps installed on, but not limited to,
Rotax 912 series aircraft engines. The pumps cause a possible unsafe
condition on special light sport category aircraft (SLSA), experimental
light sport aircraft (ELSA), and experimental amateur-built aircraft
with the engines installed.
In some cases, if the input pressure to the mechanical fuel pump is high
(e.g., due to an electric fuel pump upstream), the output pressure from
the mechanical fuel pump could be excessive. This high fuel pressure may
cause the engine to malfunction from flooding and/or cause fuel leakage.
The fuel pumps affected by this issue are 892230, 892232, 892540
(standard version), and 892235, 892236, 892545 (version including
flexible line). Pumps with part numbers 892542 and 892546 are not
affected.
The engines likely to be affected by this issue are:
912A S/Ns 4,410.684 through 4,410.727
912F S/Ns 4,412.913 through S/Ns 4,412.925
912S S/Ns 4,923.282 through 4,923.461
912UL S/Ns 4,407.646 through 4,408.361
912ULS S/Ns 5,646.084 through 5,648.164
912ULSFR S/Ns 4,430.267 through 4,430.500 and S/Ns 6,374.028 through
6,374.054
Rotax 912ULS
The FAA says ff your aircraft is affected by this issue, replacement of
the fuel pump part numbers listed above is recommended following ROTAX
Service Bulletins SB-912-053 and SB-912-053UL.
The FAA says it is taking airworthiness directive action to address this
issue on the type-certificated aircraft and engines.
FMI: www.faa.gov
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Richard Neilsen wrote:
<< A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black
automotive
fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is necessary.
... removing ALL that blue
Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >>
Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines.
Like you, I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive
neoprene fuel lines, except for a few short runs (for visual reference),
exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas.
Fortunately, on my plane, all the clear line used in my fuel circuit
(probably 12-14 inches, total) are above the tanks and clearly visible.
Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight.
Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after hearing
your story.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-3, 912ul
Sandia Park, NM
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: service bulletin |
BB/Gang:
Rotax first published an SB, April 2007, reference fuel pump over
pressure.
Took the FAA over 3 years to come up with theirs.
john h
mkIII
Fuel Pumps May Cause Engine Flooding, Fuel Leaks Due To Overpressure
The FAA has issued a Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB)
for certain part number fuel pumps installed on, but not limited to,
Rotax 912 series aircraft engines. The pumps cause a possible unsafe
condition on special light sport category aircraft (SLSA), experimental
light sport aircraft (ELSA), and experimental amateur-built aircraft
with the engines installed.
In some cases, if the input pressure to the mechanical fuel pump is
high (e.g., due to an electric fuel pump upstream), the output pressure
from the mechanical fuel pump could be excessive. This high fuel
pressure may cause the engine to malfunction from flooding and/or cause
fuel leakage. The fuel pumps affected by this issue are 892230, 892232,
892540 (standard version), and 892235, 892236, 892545 (version including
flexible line). Pumps with part numbers 892542 and 892546 are not
affected.
The engines likely to be affected by this issue are:
a.. 912A S/Ns 4,410.684 through 4,410.727
b.. 912F S/Ns 4,412.913 through S/Ns 4,412.925
c.. 912S S/Ns 4,923.282 through 4,923.461
d.. 912UL S/Ns 4,407.646 through 4,408.361
e.. 912ULS S/Ns 5,646.084 through 5,648.164
f.. 912ULSFR S/Ns 4,430.267 through 4,430.500 and S/Ns 6,374.028
through 6,374.054
Rotax 912ULS
The FAA says ff your aircraft is affected by this issue, replacement
of the fuel pump part numbers listed above is recommended following
ROTAX Service Bulletins SB-912-053 and SB-912-053UL.
The FAA says it is taking airworthiness directive action to address
this issue on the type-certificated aircraft and engines.
FMI: www.faa.gov
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I don't know what experience you have had with the automotive black fuel li
nes. I have and several others found that if your using a gas and oil mixtu
re that in time you will find small pieces of rubber in your fuel filter. W
e have gone to the marine fuel lines as they are designed to be used with a
nd gas and oil mixture. Other than a couple clear lines to see a visual flo
w the rest are all the marine grade fuel lines. The black automotive fuel l
ines you can not see when they are deterioration on the inside until it is
to later.
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines
> Date: Thu=2C 17 Jun 2010 08:36:17 -0600
> From: Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
<Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Richard Neilsen wrote:
> << A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black
> automotive
> fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is necessary.
> ... removing ALL that blue
> Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >>
>
> Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines.
>
> Like you=2C I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive
> neoprene fuel lines=2C except for a few short runs (for visual reference)
=2C
> exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas.
> Fortunately=2C on my plane=2C all the clear line used in my fuel circuit
> (probably 12-14 inches=2C total) are above the tanks and clearly visible.
> Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight.
>
> Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after hearing
> your story.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3=2C 912ul
> Sandia Park=2C NM
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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I've had the same experience with the black fuel lines deteriorating
when used with a fuel/oil mixture. I won't use them but use the clear
urethane fuel line and do a complete replacement every year at condition
inspection. Over 500 2 stroke hours without any issues. If I were
running the oil injection, then I would use the black fuel lines.
These comments are not intended to indicate that this is the the only
way to do things, but only to pass on what has worked for me.
Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
N71RB Fire Star KXP
----- Original Message -----
From: Sky Biker Richardson
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines
I don't know what experience you have had with the automotive black
fuel lines. I have and several others found that if your using a gas and
oil mixture that in time you will find small pieces of rubber in your
fuel filter. We have gone to the marine fuel lines as they are designed
to be used with and gas and oil mixture. Other than a couple clear lines
to see a visual flow the rest are all the marine grade fuel lines. The
black automotive fuel lines you can not see when they are deterioration
on the inside until it is to later.
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:36:17 -0600
> From: Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
>
> Richard Neilsen wrote:
> << A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black
> automotive
> fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is
necessary.
> ... removing ALL that blue
> Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >>
>
> Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines.
>
> Like you, I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive
> neoprene fuel lines, except for a few short runs (for visual
reference),
> exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas.
> Fortunately, on my plane, all the clear line used in my fuel circuit
> (probably 12-14 inches, total) are above the tanks and clearly
visible.
> Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight.
>
> Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after
hearing
> your story.
>
> Dennis Kirby
> Mark-3, 912ul
> Sandia Park, NM
> do not archive
> ================
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Help with elevator cable |
John, As long as we are dealing in anecdotal evidence I can count personally
at least ten different aircraft I have flown, and four that I have built
that used cable structural bracing and all had but a single compression
sleeve to terminate those cables. Not one ever slipped or distorted in any
way no matter how badly I abused them.
Then there is the experience of Wills Wing, who have manufactured literally
thousands of hang gliders using the standards set out by the National
Telephone Supply Co, the inventor of the Nicopress process. To my knowledge,
in almost 40 years they have not had a single failure reported due to the
Nico sleeve failing in any way.
<http://versales.com/ns/nicopress/inst32pg4.html>A single sleeve properly
installed is as strong as the cable itself, that you have applied an 8,000
lb winch to a cable with a 960 lb breaking strength is as you put it "a very
unscientific test". Until someone comes forward WITH a scientific test that
disproves both the manufacturer of the process and the guidance given to
EVERY certified mechanic by the FAA I will continue to contend that the only
thing a second Nico sleeve does is introduce the prospect of a reject able
cable assembly.
Rick Girard
"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do"
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> >> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie
> down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or
> safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by
> introducing bubbles and twists into the termination.
>
>> Rick Girard
>>>
>>
>
> Rick G/Gang:
>
> I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially
> 3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable .
>
> Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip.
>
> I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used an
> 8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections
> always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced
> me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do.
>
> BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the
> same GO-NO GO gauge.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Jimmy, Nice pic! That is a beautiful bridge and the angle of the camera and your
streamlined strut brought a tear to my eye as it was a very familiar sight ,that
I miss desperately ! Thank you , Chris
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
----- Original Message ----
From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 6:30:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
List,
I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and
got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the
Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but
I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
Jimmy Y
FS II, 320 hrs
HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
--------
Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Help with elevator cable |
Frank, I bought a model 32 VC VG tool back when they were less than $35 in
the early seventies and it's still giving good service. The bolt tool works
well for a few swages, but is unwieldy beyond that. You might check with
your local EAA chapter and see if a member has either the 32 VC VG or the
64CGMP tool.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>wrote:
>
> John:
>
> What's your recommendation for a swaging tool? I couldn't justify spending
> over $100 for a swaging tool and the economy bolt press looked somewhat
> unwieldy. So I found an 18-inch long swaging tool at Home Depot that handles
> a few sleeve sizes including the 3/32 I need for the 7x19 elevator cable. Do
> you think it will be strong enough? I guess the go-no go gauge will be the
> final judge.
>
> Frank Fanelli
>
> On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> >> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie
>> down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or
>> safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by
>> introducing bubbles and twists into the termination.
>>
>>> Rick Girard
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> Rick G/Gang:
>>
>> I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially
>> 3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable .
>>
>> Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip.
>>
>> I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used
>> an 8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections
>> always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced
>> me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do.
>>
>> BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the
>> same GO-NO GO gauge.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Hi Jim,
Good to hear that you are getting a lot of flight time . We are in Los Lunas ,
New Mexico I am flying every day.We were fortunate
enough to get a house with an attached hanger that is about 50 yards from the taxiway.Sure
is different here , the density alt so far is
from 5000 to 9000 ft.depending on the time of day.Until I get really used to that
I don't intend to fly when it's any hotter.Afterwards
(we'll see) Takeoff rolls are long and landing speeds are high at 9000 ft. DA,
also can't climb much over 150 ft. a minute --a guess--
I haven't been far enough to get a good handle on the rate of climb. So far I haven't
been over 10 miles from the home air port.
Have a good summer and I will see you in the fall.
Frank
________________________________
From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 5:30:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
List,
I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and
got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the
Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but
I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
Jimmy Y
FS II, 320 hrs
HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
--------
Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Sorry List,
Was supposed to go Jimmy Young.Fingers are too big for computers.
Frank Goodnight
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From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 12:27:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
Hi Jim,
Good to hear that you are getting a lot of flight time . We are in Los Lunas ,
New Mexico I am flying every day.We were fortunate
enough to get a house with an attached hanger that is about 50 yards from the taxiway.Sure
is different here , the density alt so far is
from 5000 to 9000 ft.depending on the time of day.Until I get really used to that
I don't intend to fly when it's any hotter.Afterwards
(we'll see) Takeoff rolls are long and landing speeds are high at 9000 ft. DA,
also can't climb much over 150 ft. a minute --a guess--
I haven't been far enough to get a good handle on the rate of climb. So far I haven't
been over 10 miles from the home air port.
Have a good summer and I will see you in the fall.
Frank
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From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 5:30:17 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
List,
I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and
got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the
Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but
I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
Jimmy Y
FS II, 320 hrs
HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Help with elevator cable |
Does anyone, instead of swaging, use the old cable splicing technique per
http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/reference/cable-splicing ? I can recall in an earlier life as a young apprentice having to do it this way. Sure was a strong bond with virtually no chance of it coming loose. On the contrary, it held tighter under tension. Swaging would be much quicker but splicing looks better (subjective). Just curious.
David.
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Subject: | Re: Help with elevator cable |
FWIW: I recently used a piece of 3/32 cable to make a tow-cable to pull my
kaput VW home. I used one nico sleeve and didn't take any particular care
swaging it. While the cable was easily strong enough to pull the car, it
broke during after one of those slack times when things get tight very
quickly. The loop at the swaged end broke - the swage held. It appears the
swage portion is stronger than the cable itself. But . we always used 2
swages, if for no other reason than it provides a convenient way to tidy up
the end of the cable.
Dennis
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:00 PM
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John, As long as we are dealing in anecdotal evidence I can count personally
at least ten different aircraft I have flown, and four that I have built
that used cable structural bracing and all had but a single compression
sleeve to terminate those cables. Not one ever slipped or distorted in any
way no matter how badly I abused them.
Then there is the experience of Wills Wing, who have manufactured literally
thousands of hang gliders using the standards set out by the National
Telephone Supply Co, the inventor of the Nicopress process. To my knowledge,
in almost 40 years they have not had a single failure reported due to the
Nico sleeve failing in any way.
<http://versales.com/ns/nicopress/inst32pg4.html> A single sleeve properly
installed is as strong as the cable itself, that you have applied an 8,000
lb winch to a cable with a 960 lb breaking strength is as you put it "a very
unscientific test". Until someone comes forward WITH a scientific test that
disproves both the manufacturer of the process and the guidance given to
EVERY certified mechanic by the FAA I will continue to contend that the only
thing a second Nico sleeve does is introduce the prospect of a reject able
cable assembly.
Rick Girard
"Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do"
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie
down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or
safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by
introducing bubbles and twists into the termination.
Rick Girard
Rick G/Gang:
I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially
3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable .
Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip.
I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used an
8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections
always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced
me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do.
BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the same
GO-NO GO gauge.
john h
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Subject: | Questions about Firestar Gross Weight |
I have a 5-rib Firestar 1 with a 447. It weighs 335lbs empty. I have seen the gross
weight listed in several places, it's just never the same figure. 550 lbs,
650, 725, and 750 can be found. Is there a consensus on the list? Any advice
is appreciated.
John Tempest
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
> Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend
> for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an airport
> or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet
> (too sick with Chemo).
> Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
Gene,
I hanger at a country grass strip airport called Bailes Field (7R9) about 30 miles
due south of Houston. I'd be glad to show you around this weekend while you
are in town. Give me a call at 832.309.1730 or email me and we can figure out
the details.
To everyone else, I'm glad so many liked the photo. I'm sure I could take better
ones with the right lenses and filters, but advanced photography is really
not something I'm interested in at all. I just point & shoot & occasionally I
get lucky. It is a great way to share with others what we get to see from our
Kolbs.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
Thanks Jimmy, I'll give you a call on Sunday (I should get into Houston
late Saturday).
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:14 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
>
>
>> Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend
>> for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an
>> airport
>> or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet
>> (too sick with Chemo).
>> Gene in Beautiful Tennessee
>
>
> Gene,
> I hanger at a country grass strip airport called Bailes Field (7R9) about
> 30 miles due south of Houston. I'd be glad to show you around this weekend
> while you are in town. Give me a call at 832.309.1730 or email me and we
> can figure out the details.
>
> To everyone else, I'm glad so many liked the photo. I'm sure I could take
> better ones with the right lenses and filters, but advanced photography is
> really not something I'm interested in at all. I just point & shoot &
> occasionally I get lucky. It is a great way to share with others what we
> get to see from our Kolbs.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301615#301615
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Questions about Firestar Gross Weight |
There are many versions of the Firestar. The first was the Original Firestar with
a 5-rib wing and a gross weight of 550 lbs. The 7-rib Firestars have the higher
GW's.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend |
That is weird They named my Farther in law after that Bridge Fred Hartman
is his name I'll have to tell him about that
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 6:48 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
Very nice, Jimmy! For those who don't live in the area, off in the distan
ce is the San Jacinto Monument, which commemorates the site of the Battle
of San Jacinto, the decisive battle of the Texas Revolution. It's even
taller than the Washington Monument, topped by a big Texas star!
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> wrote:
List,
I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off ea
rly and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which
crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of
bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo.
HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently.
Jimmy Y
FS II, 320 hrs
HKS 700E, 103 hrs.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Bolding going where a few have gone before; the HKS |
Kolbers, Bob Dresden here. Getting ready to 4 cycle the Firestar II
with the HKS. I'd like to keep the trial and error part to a minimum
if I can. Soooo, I'm hoping I can tap into this great knowledge base
we've got here. I've talked with Larry C about his install, got some
great insights into this endeavor. I'll be doing the type II exhaust
and horizontal carbs, 3.47 gearbox. I'm fishing for photos, hints,
what I'd do different next time, all this good stuff. Where do all
those oil lines go, any mounting options for tank and cooler, anyone
with a type II setup care to comment on noise level? I certainly
appreciate all replies. Thanks in advance.
Bob Dresden
Firestar 646F
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