Kolb-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/17/10


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 03:30 AM - Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Jimmy Young)
     2. 03:49 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Robert Laird)
     3. 04:23 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend ()
     4. 04:47 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (russ kinne)
     5. 05:21 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Gene & Tammy)
     6. 06:24 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (ces308)
     7. 06:26 AM - service bulletin (robert bean)
     8. 07:38 AM - Re: Fuel Lines (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN)
     9. 07:38 AM - Re: service bulletin (John Hauck)
    10. 08:06 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Lines (Sky Biker Richardson)
    11. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Lines (Gene & Tammy)
    12. 09:05 AM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Richard Girard)
    13. 09:23 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (chris davis)
    14. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Richard Girard)
    15. 10:28 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (frank goodnight)
    16. 10:39 AM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (frank goodnight)
    17. 10:41 AM - Re: Help with elevator cable (David Lucas)
    18. 01:54 PM - Re: Re: Help with elevator cable (Dennis Souder)
    19. 04:53 PM - Questions about Firestar Gross Weight (Mystic)
    20. 05:14 PM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Jimmy Young)
    21. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Gene & Tammy)
    22. 06:40 PM - Re: Questions about Firestar Gross Weight (Ralph B)
    23. 07:08 PM - Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
    24. 08:54 PM - Bolding going where a few have gone before; the HKS (Robert Dresden)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:30:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
    List, I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. Jimmy Y FS II, 320 hrs HKS 700E, 103 hrs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg


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    Time: 03:49:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Very nice, Jimmy! For those who don't live in the area, off in the distance is the San Jacinto Monument, which commemorates the site of the Battle of San Jacinto, the decisive battle of the Texas Revolution. It's even taller than the Washington Monument, topped by a big Texas star! On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> wrote: > > List, > > I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off > early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which > crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of > bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. > > HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. > > Jimmy Y > FS II, 320 hrs > HKS 700E, 103 hrs. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg > >


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    Time: 04:23:08 AM PST US
    From: <aoldman@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    A most excellent photo. This is what I like about this list. We may differ on how to build or even fly our Kolb's , but we can not disagree that the places they take us to or the things we see from them have no equal . From one side of the world to the other Kolbs are veiwing the best there is to see on this planet . Fly safe MK111c Down under 0 deg c until 10am today. clear skys no wind , only work to get in the way ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:30 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend > > List, > > I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off > early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge > which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the > world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the > photo. > > HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. > > Jimmy Y > FS II, 320 hrs > HKS 700E, 103 hrs. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg > > >


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    Time: 04:47:31 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Jimmy Great pic, and a great bridge -- famous or not. Good job! But your pix would be MUCH better if you used a polarizing filter. Try it -- or at least shoot thru one lens of polarized sunglasses as a test. Won't be sharp but you can see what it does. Russ K do not archive On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:30 AM, Jimmy Young wrote: > > List, > > I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took > off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman > bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or > famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too- > big file size on the photo. > > HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. > > Jimmy Y > FS II, 320 hrs > HKS 700E, 103 hrs. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg > >


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    Time: 05:21:43 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an airport or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet (too sick with Chemo). Gene in Beautiful Tennessee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend > > List, > > I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off > early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge > which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the > world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the > photo. > > HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. > > Jimmy Y > FS II, 320 hrs > HKS 700E, 103 hrs. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg > > >


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    Time: 06:24:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
    Hello all! Nice Pix Jim! I love seeing everyones pictures and there is no better place to see this beautiful earth than from out little airplanes ! I took a 350 mi trip with my M3X that weekend too.It was the first long X country with the airplane and she performed great ! Here is the link if anyone wants to see... Have a great weekend everyone! http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=49673&id=1651000323&l=ec62c0b91c chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru A-2200 138.0 hrs N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301542#301542


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    Time: 06:26:25 AM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: service bulletin
    Rotax 912 Engines Draw FAA SAIB Thu, 17 Jun '10 Fuel Pumps May Cause Engine Flooding, Fuel Leaks Due To Overpressure The FAA has issued a Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) for certain part number fuel pumps installed on, but not limited to, Rotax 912 series aircraft engines. The pumps cause a possible unsafe condition on special light sport category aircraft (SLSA), experimental light sport aircraft (ELSA), and experimental amateur-built aircraft with the engines installed. In some cases, if the input pressure to the mechanical fuel pump is high (e.g., due to an electric fuel pump upstream), the output pressure from the mechanical fuel pump could be excessive. This high fuel pressure may cause the engine to malfunction from flooding and/or cause fuel leakage. The fuel pumps affected by this issue are 892230, 892232, 892540 (standard version), and 892235, 892236, 892545 (version including flexible line). Pumps with part numbers 892542 and 892546 are not affected. The engines likely to be affected by this issue are: 912A S/Ns 4,410.684 through 4,410.727 912F S/Ns 4,412.913 through S/Ns 4,412.925 912S S/Ns 4,923.282 through 4,923.461 912UL S/Ns 4,407.646 through 4,408.361 912ULS S/Ns 5,646.084 through 5,648.164 912ULSFR S/Ns 4,430.267 through 4,430.500 and S/Ns 6,374.028 through 6,374.054 Rotax 912ULS The FAA says ff your aircraft is affected by this issue, replacement of the fuel pump part numbers listed above is recommended following ROTAX Service Bulletins SB-912-053 and SB-912-053UL. The FAA says it is taking airworthiness directive action to address this issue on the type-certificated aircraft and engines. FMI: www.faa.gov


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    Time: 07:38:19 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lines
    From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Richard Neilsen wrote: << A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black automotive fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is necessary. ... removing ALL that blue Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >> Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines. Like you, I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive neoprene fuel lines, except for a few short runs (for visual reference), exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas. Fortunately, on my plane, all the clear line used in my fuel circuit (probably 12-14 inches, total) are above the tanks and clearly visible. Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight. Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after hearing your story. Dennis Kirby Mark-3, 912ul Sandia Park, NM do not archive


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    Time: 07:38:46 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: service bulletin
    BB/Gang: Rotax first published an SB, April 2007, reference fuel pump over pressure. Took the FAA over 3 years to come up with theirs. john h mkIII Fuel Pumps May Cause Engine Flooding, Fuel Leaks Due To Overpressure The FAA has issued a Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) for certain part number fuel pumps installed on, but not limited to, Rotax 912 series aircraft engines. The pumps cause a possible unsafe condition on special light sport category aircraft (SLSA), experimental light sport aircraft (ELSA), and experimental amateur-built aircraft with the engines installed. In some cases, if the input pressure to the mechanical fuel pump is high (e.g., due to an electric fuel pump upstream), the output pressure from the mechanical fuel pump could be excessive. This high fuel pressure may cause the engine to malfunction from flooding and/or cause fuel leakage. The fuel pumps affected by this issue are 892230, 892232, 892540 (standard version), and 892235, 892236, 892545 (version including flexible line). Pumps with part numbers 892542 and 892546 are not affected. The engines likely to be affected by this issue are: a.. 912A S/Ns 4,410.684 through 4,410.727 b.. 912F S/Ns 4,412.913 through S/Ns 4,412.925 c.. 912S S/Ns 4,923.282 through 4,923.461 d.. 912UL S/Ns 4,407.646 through 4,408.361 e.. 912ULS S/Ns 5,646.084 through 5,648.164 f.. 912ULSFR S/Ns 4,430.267 through 4,430.500 and S/Ns 6,374.028 through 6,374.054 Rotax 912ULS The FAA says ff your aircraft is affected by this issue, replacement of the fuel pump part numbers listed above is recommended following ROTAX Service Bulletins SB-912-053 and SB-912-053UL. The FAA says it is taking airworthiness directive action to address this issue on the type-certificated aircraft and engines. FMI: www.faa.gov


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    Time: 08:06:53 AM PST US
    From: Sky Biker Richardson <smlplanet@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lines
    I don't know what experience you have had with the automotive black fuel li nes. I have and several others found that if your using a gas and oil mixtu re that in time you will find small pieces of rubber in your fuel filter. W e have gone to the marine fuel lines as they are designed to be used with a nd gas and oil mixture. Other than a couple clear lines to see a visual flo w the rest are all the marine grade fuel lines. The black automotive fuel l ines you can not see when they are deterioration on the inside until it is to later. > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines > Date: Thu=2C 17 Jun 2010 08:36:17 -0600 > From: Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Richard Neilsen wrote: > << A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black > automotive > fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is necessary. > ... removing ALL that blue > Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >> > > Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines. > > Like you=2C I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive > neoprene fuel lines=2C except for a few short runs (for visual reference) =2C > exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas. > Fortunately=2C on my plane=2C all the clear line used in my fuel circuit > (probably 12-14 inches=2C total) are above the tanks and clearly visible. > Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight. > > Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after hearing > your story. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3=2C 912ul > Sandia Park=2C NM > do not archive > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 08:38:28 AM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Lines
    I've had the same experience with the black fuel lines deteriorating when used with a fuel/oil mixture. I won't use them but use the clear urethane fuel line and do a complete replacement every year at condition inspection. Over 500 2 stroke hours without any issues. If I were running the oil injection, then I would use the black fuel lines. These comments are not intended to indicate that this is the the only way to do things, but only to pass on what has worked for me. Gene in Beautiful Tennessee N71RB Fire Star KXP ----- Original Message ----- From: Sky Biker Richardson To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:06 AM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines I don't know what experience you have had with the automotive black fuel lines. I have and several others found that if your using a gas and oil mixture that in time you will find small pieces of rubber in your fuel filter. We have gone to the marine fuel lines as they are designed to be used with and gas and oil mixture. Other than a couple clear lines to see a visual flow the rest are all the marine grade fuel lines. The black automotive fuel lines you can not see when they are deterioration on the inside until it is to later. > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Lines > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:36:17 -0600 > From: Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> > > Richard Neilsen wrote: > << A couple of years ago I replaced most of my fuel lines with black > automotive > fuel lines but retained some clear lines where I feel it is necessary. > ... removing ALL that blue > Air Wolf fuel line that you may have in your airplanes. >> > > Rick - thanks for the tip on inferior fuel lines. > > Like you, I also replaced all my fuel lines with black automotive > neoprene fuel lines, except for a few short runs (for visual reference), > exactly as you described. Am using clear tygothane in those areas. > Fortunately, on my plane, all the clear line used in my fuel circuit > (probably 12-14 inches, total) are above the tanks and clearly visible. > Easy to grab & jiggle each one on the preflight. > > Will keep an extra eye on those sections of my fuel line after hearing > your story. > > Dennis Kirby > Mark-3, 912ul > Sandia Park, NM > do not archive > ================ > > >


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    Time: 09:05:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help with elevator cable
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    John, As long as we are dealing in anecdotal evidence I can count personally at least ten different aircraft I have flown, and four that I have built that used cable structural bracing and all had but a single compression sleeve to terminate those cables. Not one ever slipped or distorted in any way no matter how badly I abused them. Then there is the experience of Wills Wing, who have manufactured literally thousands of hang gliders using the standards set out by the National Telephone Supply Co, the inventor of the Nicopress process. To my knowledge, in almost 40 years they have not had a single failure reported due to the Nico sleeve failing in any way. <http://versales.com/ns/nicopress/inst32pg4.html>A single sleeve properly installed is as strong as the cable itself, that you have applied an 8,000 lb winch to a cable with a 960 lb breaking strength is as you put it "a very unscientific test". Until someone comes forward WITH a scientific test that disproves both the manufacturer of the process and the guidance given to EVERY certified mechanic by the FAA I will continue to contend that the only thing a second Nico sleeve does is introduce the prospect of a reject able cable assembly. Rick Girard "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do" On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > > >> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie > down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or > safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by > introducing bubbles and twists into the termination. > >> Rick Girard >>> >> > > Rick G/Gang: > > I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially > 3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable . > > Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip. > > I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used an > 8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections > always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced > me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do. > > BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the > same GO-NO GO gauge. > > john h > mkIII > >


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    Time: 09:23:08 AM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Jimmy, Nice pic! That is a beautiful bridge and the angle of the camera and your streamlined strut brought a tear to my eye as it was a very familiar sight ,that I miss desperately ! Thank you , Chris Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ----- Original Message ---- From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 6:30:17 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend List, I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. Jimmy Y FS II, 320 hrs HKS 700E, 103 hrs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg


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    Time: 09:23:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help with elevator cable
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Frank, I bought a model 32 VC VG tool back when they were less than $35 in the early seventies and it's still giving good service. The bolt tool works well for a few swages, but is unwieldy beyond that. You might check with your local EAA chapter and see if a member has either the 32 VC VG or the 64CGMP tool. Rick Girard On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Frank Fanelli <frankf@flying-models.com>wrote: > > John: > > What's your recommendation for a swaging tool? I couldn't justify spending > over $100 for a swaging tool and the economy bolt press looked somewhat > unwieldy. So I found an 18-inch long swaging tool at Home Depot that handles > a few sleeve sizes including the 3/32 I need for the 7x19 elevator cable. Do > you think it will be strong enough? I guess the go-no go gauge will be the > final judge. > > Frank Fanelli > > On 6/16/2010 3:24 PM, John Hauck wrote: > >> >> >> >> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie >> down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or >> safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by >> introducing bubbles and twists into the termination. >> >>> Rick Girard >>>> >>> >> >> Rick G/Gang: >> >> I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially >> 3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable . >> >> Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip. >> >> I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used >> an 8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections >> always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced >> me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do. >> >> BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the >> same GO-NO GO gauge. >> >> john h >> mkIII >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 10:28:51 AM PST US
    From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Hi Jim, Good to hear that you are getting a lot of flight time . We are in Los Lunas , New Mexico I am flying every day.We were fortunate enough to get a house with an attached hanger that is about 50 yards from the taxiway.Sure is different here , the density alt so far is from 5000 to 9000 ft.depending on the time of day.Until I get really used to that I don't intend to fly when it's any hotter.Afterwards (we'll see) Takeoff rolls are long and landing speeds are high at 9000 ft. DA, also can't climb much over 150 ft. a minute --a guess-- I haven't been far enough to get a good handle on the rate of climb. So far I haven't been over 10 miles from the home air port. Have a good summer and I will see you in the fall. Frank ________________________________ From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 5:30:17 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend List, I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. Jimmy Y FS II, 320 hrs HKS 700E, 103 hrs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg


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    Time: 10:39:10 AM PST US
    From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Sorry List, Was supposed to go Jimmy Young.Fingers are too big for computers. Frank Goodnight ________________________________ From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 12:27:09 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend Hi Jim, Good to hear that you are getting a lot of flight time . We are in Los Lunas , New Mexico I am flying every day.We were fortunate enough to get a house with an attached hanger that is about 50 yards from the taxiway.Sure is different here , the density alt so far is from 5000 to 9000 ft.depending on the time of day.Until I get really used to that I don't intend to fly when it's any hotter.Afterwards (we'll see) Takeoff rolls are long and landing speeds are high at 9000 ft. DA, also can't climb much over 150 ft. a minute --a guess-- I haven't been far enough to get a good handle on the rate of climb. So far I haven't been over 10 miles from the home air port. Have a good summer and I will see you in the fall. Frank ________________________________ From: Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thu, June 17, 2010 5:30:17 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend List, I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off early and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. Jimmy Y FS II, 320 hrs HKS 700E, 103 hrs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg


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    Time: 10:41:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Help with elevator cable
    From: "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas@hotmail.com>
    Does anyone, instead of swaging, use the old cable splicing technique per http://thevintageaviator.co.nz/reference/cable-splicing ? I can recall in an earlier life as a young apprentice having to do it this way. Sure was a strong bond with virtually no chance of it coming loose. On the contrary, it held tighter under tension. Swaging would be much quicker but splicing looks better (subjective). Just curious. David. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301576#301576


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    Time: 01:54:06 PM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Re: Help with elevator cable
    FWIW: I recently used a piece of 3/32 cable to make a tow-cable to pull my kaput VW home. I used one nico sleeve and didn't take any particular care swaging it. While the cable was easily strong enough to pull the car, it broke during after one of those slack times when things get tight very quickly. The loop at the swaged end broke - the swage held. It appears the swage portion is stronger than the cable itself. But . we always used 2 swages, if for no other reason than it provides a convenient way to tidy up the end of the cable. Dennis _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Girard Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Help with elevator cable John, As long as we are dealing in anecdotal evidence I can count personally at least ten different aircraft I have flown, and four that I have built that used cable structural bracing and all had but a single compression sleeve to terminate those cables. Not one ever slipped or distorted in any way no matter how badly I abused them. Then there is the experience of Wills Wing, who have manufactured literally thousands of hang gliders using the standards set out by the National Telephone Supply Co, the inventor of the Nicopress process. To my knowledge, in almost 40 years they have not had a single failure reported due to the Nico sleeve failing in any way. <http://versales.com/ns/nicopress/inst32pg4.html> A single sleeve properly installed is as strong as the cable itself, that you have applied an 8,000 lb winch to a cable with a 960 lb breaking strength is as you put it "a very unscientific test". Until someone comes forward WITH a scientific test that disproves both the manufacturer of the process and the guidance given to EVERY certified mechanic by the FAA I will continue to contend that the only thing a second Nico sleeve does is introduce the prospect of a reject able cable assembly. Rick Girard "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do" On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:24 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: >> Despite old hangar tales to the contrary using a second sleeve to tie down the loose end of the cable does absolutely nothing for the strength or safety of the cable and only offers the opportunity to make a bad cable by introducing bubbles and twists into the termination. Rick Girard Rick G/Gang: I will continue to use two sleeves on each cable connection, especially 3/32" and smaller, 7X19 cable . Smaller the cable, finer the wire, means less area for grip. I did very unscientific pull tests with 3/32" 7X19 many years ago. Used an 8,000 lb winch on my old Toyota Land Cruiser. Single sleeve connections always failed before the double sleeve connections. The results convinced me to keep on doing what Homer Kolb told me to do. I still do. BTW: All sleeves were squeezed with the same tool and checked with the same GO-NO GO gauge. john h mkIII ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 04:53:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Questions about Firestar Gross Weight
    From: "Mystic" <cheoah68@gmail.com>
    I have a 5-rib Firestar 1 with a 447. It weighs 335lbs empty. I have seen the gross weight listed in several places, it's just never the same figure. 550 lbs, 650, 725, and 750 can be found. Is there a consensus on the list? Any advice is appreciated. John Tempest Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301611#301611


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    Time: 05:14:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
    > Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend > for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an airport > or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet > (too sick with Chemo). > Gene in Beautiful Tennessee Gene, I hanger at a country grass strip airport called Bailes Field (7R9) about 30 miles due south of Houston. I'd be glad to show you around this weekend while you are in town. Give me a call at 832.309.1730 or email me and we can figure out the details. To everyone else, I'm glad so many liked the photo. I'm sure I could take better ones with the right lenses and filters, but advanced photography is really not something I'm interested in at all. I just point & shoot & occasionally I get lucky. It is a great way to share with others what we get to see from our Kolbs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301615#301615


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    Time: 05:30:44 PM PST US
    From: "Gene & Tammy" <zharvey@bentoncountycable.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    Thanks Jimmy, I'll give you a call on Sunday (I should get into Houston late Saturday). Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:14 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend > > >> Great photo! Where do you fly out of? I'm headed to Houston this weekend >> for cancer treatment and in my spare time I'd like to check out an >> airport >> or two. I have just bought a Kolb Firestar KXP, but haven't flown it yet >> (too sick with Chemo). >> Gene in Beautiful Tennessee > > > Gene, > I hanger at a country grass strip airport called Bailes Field (7R9) about > 30 miles due south of Houston. I'd be glad to show you around this weekend > while you are in town. Give me a call at 832.309.1730 or email me and we > can figure out the details. > > To everyone else, I'm glad so many liked the photo. I'm sure I could take > better ones with the right lenses and filters, but advanced photography is > really not something I'm interested in at all. I just point & shoot & > occasionally I get lucky. It is a great way to share with others what we > get to see from our Kolbs. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301615#301615 > > >


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    Time: 06:40:53 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Questions about Firestar Gross Weight
    From: "Ralph B" <ul15@juno.com>
    There are many versions of the Firestar. The first was the Original Firestar with a 5-rib wing and a gross weight of 550 lbs. The 7-rib Firestars have the higher GW's. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301628#301628


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    Time: 07:08:00 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend
    From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
    That is weird They named my Farther in law after that Bridge Fred Hartman is his name I'll have to tell him about that Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 6:48 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight photo, Memorial Weekend Very nice, Jimmy! For those who don't live in the area, off in the distan ce is the San Jacinto Monument, which commemorates the site of the Battle of San Jacinto, the decisive battle of the Texas Revolution. It's even taller than the Washington Monument, topped by a big Texas star! On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:30 AM, Jimmy Young <jdy100@comcast.net> wrote: List, I did a lot of flying on the Saturday of Memorial Day weekend. Took off ea rly and got home late. I took this photo of the Fred Hartman bridge which crosses the Houston Ship Channel. It's not huge or famous in the world of bridges, but I like it. Sorry for the too-big file size on the photo. HKS continues to perform well, turned 100 hrs on it recently. Jimmy Y FS II, 320 hrs HKS 700E, 103 hrs. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301522#301522 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dscn0677_407.jpg arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== ===========


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    Time: 08:54:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Bolding going where a few have gone before; the HKS
    From: Robert Dresden <bdres@zirkel.us>
    Kolbers, Bob Dresden here. Getting ready to 4 cycle the Firestar II with the HKS. I'd like to keep the trial and error part to a minimum if I can. Soooo, I'm hoping I can tap into this great knowledge base we've got here. I've talked with Larry C about his install, got some great insights into this endeavor. I'll be doing the type II exhaust and horizontal carbs, 3.47 gearbox. I'm fishing for photos, hints, what I'd do different next time, all this good stuff. Where do all those oil lines go, any mounting options for tank and cooler, anyone with a type II setup care to comment on noise level? I certainly appreciate all replies. Thanks in advance. Bob Dresden Firestar 646F




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