---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/27/10: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:39 AM - Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot (Thom Riddle) 2. 04:40 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Pat Ladd) 3. 05:12 AM - Re: Full Moon (william sullivan) 4. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Eugene Zimmerman) 5. 05:48 AM - Re: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot (John Hauck) 6. 05:56 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (John Hauck) 7. 06:34 AM - Fw: Re: Full Moon (russ kinne) 8. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Eugene Zimmerman) 9. 12:12 PM - Re: Re: Full Moon (robert bean) 10. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Beauford) 11. 09:22 PM - Re: Re: Full Moon (willuribe@aol.com) 12. 09:40 PM - Yamaha powered MKIII for sale (Jason Omelchuck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:52 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot From: "Thom Riddle" Vic, GOOD for you. And you are fortunate to live in such a wild and beautiful area. I landed our Cherokee 140 at Millinocket due to low oil pressure on my first x-country trip in it, on the way to Presque Isle, ME. I learned at that stop that my new-to-me engine was using oil at the rate of one quart per 3 hours flight. It turned out that the cylinders were glazed from poor break-in technique after major overhaul by previous owner. I sure am glad Millinocket was where it was when the oil pressure went south. Lots of forest in all directions with no good place to put down a Cherokee. I know you are going to enjoy your Kolb. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 If life gives you limes, make Margaritas. - Jimmy Buffet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302659#302659 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:52 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:45 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon > > > > > I don't mind other pilots being confused as long as they see me. > They will see you alright. And fly straight into you under the impression that they are behind you. Someone with your ingenuity can surely come up with a green light for the starboard strut. There are enough confusing things going on without adding to them on purpose. Lovely pic though! Cheers Pat > > On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > >> Gene >> >> [quote] >> >> Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, >> why do you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand >> doofus Elton John screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail >> lights, heading for Spai -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? >> >> Confused Richard Pike >> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 11:35:00 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:12:36 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon - Gene- Nice photo.--I am very surprised at how much those little LED 's stand out.- Color aside, how much power do they draw?- Expense?- D efinately attention getting.- Probably don't weigh much, either. - ------------------------- ----------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ----------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ----------------- FS 447 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:09 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon LOL THAT confused, eh ? I guess I could always fly lower but then I'd be a risk of being run over by an amish buggy. On Jun 27, 2010, at 7:39 AM, Pat Ladd wrote: >> >> > > I don't mind other pilots being confused as long as they see me. > > > They will see you alright. And fly straight into you under the > impression that they are behind you. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:46 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot Lots of forest in all directions with no good place to put down a Cherokee. > > -------- > Thom Riddle In addition to a lot of treess, is a lot of water. I remember seeing a moose and a what I thought was a J3 Cub on floats on my approach to the big paper mill and Millinocket AP right at dark. Turns out the J3 Cub was actually a J3 or N3 Kitten ultralight. Looked like a full sized Cub in the air. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:56 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon > I guess I could always fly lower but then I'd be a risk of being run > over by an amish buggy. Gene: I think you previously posted this one, or one nearly like it. Tugs at my heart strings and makes me want to land right there next to you all and the gang. Tremendous contrast in one respect, yet similar thinking and interest on the other. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:34 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon I fully agree with Pat. Any non-conventional running lights will only confuse other pilots -- hopefully without causing a crash. But they WILL get the attention of FAA types, and they won't be happy. And then there are those nuts who feel compelled to report all oddities to the FAA. Please use white! Russ K do not archive Begin forwarded message: > From: Pat Ladd > Date: June 27, 2010 7:39:06 AM EDT > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:45 PM > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon > > >> >> >> >> > > I don't mind other pilots being confused as long as they see me. > > > They will see you alright. And fly straight into you under the > impression that they are behind you. Someone with your ingenuity > can surely come up with a green light for the starboard strut. > There are enough confusing things going on without adding to them > on purpose. > Lovely pic though! > > Cheers > > Pat >> >> On Jun 26, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Richard Pike wrote: >> >>> Gene >>> >>> [quote] >>> >>> Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, >>> why do you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand >>> doofus Elton John screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail >>> lights, heading for Spai -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? >>> >>> Confused Richard Pike >>> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> >> >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 11:35:00 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:20 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon Bill Here is something similar to what I actually used. http://cgi.ebay.com/24-10mm-RED-HOME-DECOR-CARS-Led-Light-Bulb-Pre-Wired-/150460493805?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230824efed#ht_4461wt_1066 Gene On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:12 AM, william sullivan wrote: > Gene- Nice photo. I am very surprised at how much those little > LED's stand out. Color aside, how much power do they draw? > Expense? Definately attention getting. Probably don't weigh much, > either. > > Bill Sullivan > Windsor Locks, Ct. > FS 447 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:22 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon I want a big sign that flashes "IRON CITY BEER" -anon On 27, Jun 2010, at 3:04 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Bill > > Here is something similar to what I actually used. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/24-10mm-RED-HOME-DECOR-CARS-Led-Light-Bulb-Pre-Wired-/ 150460493805?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230824efed# ht_4461wt_1066 > > Gene > > > On Jun 27, 2010, at 8:12 AM, william sullivan wrote: > >> Gene- Nice photo. I am very surprised at how much those little LED's stand out. Color aside, how much power do they draw? Expense? Definately attention getting. Probably don't weigh much, either. >> >> Bill Sullivan >> Windsor Locks, Ct. >> FS 447 >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:02 PM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon ....Not to beat this already thoroughly dead horse any more than necessary (do y'all realize we are approaching SEAFOAM territory with this string...?)... But... Both military and civilian aircraft were widely equipped with "passing lights" in the 1930's and all the way up through the early 1950's. These were powerful, high-intensity red sealed- beam lights about like landing lights... usually installed in the port wing or the nose, designed to be turned on during bad visibility, or in high traffic areas to prevent collisions with approaching head-on traffic. The standard rule was to clear the oncoming traffic showing the light by turning to your right, his left. I can recall them installed in the landing light housings of C-46, C-47, AT-6, BT-13, Fairchild, Waco, Beech, and many others... Was unable to find any reference to their use in the current FAR's, but they were certainly in wide use around airport traffic areas as a safety device when I was a kid back in the stone age... Unless the regs have changed, showing a red light in the forward aspect should not be a problem...been done before. Worth what ye paid fer it... beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL [quote="Eugene Zimmerman"]Tom, I stuck a couple of small LED lights on the top of my lift struts. They are mounted in a small piece of lexan inserted into the top of the strut. They are clear when off, and RED when turned on. Gene [quote] Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, why do you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand doofus Elton John screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail lights, heading for Spai -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? Confused Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302637#302637 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon From: willuribe@aol.com Greetings, Gene that is a great picture of you and the moon. I have using LED position lights on my FireStar for about 4 years, the GA pilots wish they could install them on their airplanes. I posted this vid eo about 3 years ago, 2 minutes into the video it shows my LED lights very well. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1089406573728651489# Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II El Paso, TX BTW; If John Williamson was still with us he would have posted the FAA Reg s for us by now. Sec. 23.1385 - Position light system installation. and Sec. 23.1387 - Position light system dihedral angles ....Not to beat this already thoroughly dead horse any more than necessary do y'all realize we are approaching SEAFOAM territory with this string...? )... But... Both military and civilian aircraft were widely equipped with "passing lights" in the 1930's and all the way up through the early 1950's. These were powerful, high-intensity red sealed- beam lights about like landing lights... usually installed in the port wing or the nose, designed to be turned on during bad visibility, or in high traffic areas to prevent collisions with approaching head-on traffic. The standard rule was to clear the oncoming traffic showing the light by turning to you r right, his left. I can recall them installed in the landing light housings of C-46, C-47, AT-6, BT-13, Fairchild, Waco, Beech, and many others... Was unable to find any reference to their use in the current FAR's, but they were certainly in wide use around airport traffic areas as a safety device when I was a kid back in the stone age... Unless the regs have changed, showing a red light in the forward aspect should not be a problem...been done before. Worth what ye paid fer it... beauford FF-076 I stuck a couple of small LED lights on the top of my lift struts. They are mounted in a small piece of lexan inserted into the top of the strut. They are clear when off, and RED when turned on. Gene [quote] Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, why do you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand doofus Elton John screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail lights, heading for Spai -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? Confused Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Yamaha powered MKIII for sale From: "Jason Omelchuck" Hello All, It is with mixed emotions that I am listing my MKIII for sale. If everything works out, I will be purchasing another aircraft. I have it listed on Barnstormers for $18,000 if you would like to see the details and pictures. 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