---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/28/10: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Eugene Zimmerman) 2. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Eugene Zimmerman) 3. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Richard Girard) 4. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (fs2kolb@aol.com) 5. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot (Vic) 6. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (Richard Girard) 7. 08:40 AM - Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot (Thom Riddle) 8. 09:28 AM - Re: Yamaha powered MKIII for sale (moosepileit) 9. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (willuribe@aol.com) 10. 10:04 AM - Tach / regulator problem (Dana Hague) 11. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Full Moon (John Hauck) 12. 11:45 AM - Re: Tach / regulator problem (Richard Pike) 13. 12:23 PM - Re: Tach/regulator problem (william sullivan) 14. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Tach / regulator problem (Dana Hague) 15. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Tach / regulator problem (Dana Hague) 16. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Tach/regulator problem (Dana Hague) 17. 05:03 PM - Re: Tach/regulator problem (George Alexander) 18. 05:22 PM - Sport Pilot license (Duane Ransdell) 19. 05:29 PM - Re: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot (zeprep251@aol.com) 20. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Tach/regulator problem (Dana Hague) 21. 06:38 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 06/26/10 (Bob Green) 22. 07:56 PM - FireStar Tail Wheel Rod/Spring (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 23. 07:59 PM - Sport Pilot License (Lanny Fetterman) 24. 10:01 PM - Re: Sport Pilot License (Duane Ransdell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:10 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon Will, Thank you for filling in for John Williams. and for sparing me the castigation of my >>> good Kolb friends. <<< >>> NOTE: 91.33(c)(3) of the FAR also applies to anticollision light installations and allows the color to be either aviation red or aviation white. <<< And Thank you for sharing the video. I really like your LED position lights and I wonder what kind of flasher your system uses? On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:18 AM, WillUribe@aol.com wrote: > > BTW; If John Williamson was still with us he would have posted the > FAA Regs for us by now. > Sec. 23.1385 - Position light system installation. and Sec. 23.1387 > - Position light system dihedral angles >>> GOOD KOLB FRIENDS <<< ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:28 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon Ooops, Sorry! My BAD. I forgot to reduce the size of the picture. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon From: Richard Girard Will, Except for one small detail: 23.1 Applicability. (a) This part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type certificates, and changes to those certificates, for *airplanes in the normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter categories*. (my underline, RG) (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this part. While I don't deny there are lighting standards, or the need for them, this isn't where to look. Rick Girard On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:18 PM, wrote: > > Greetings, > > Gene that is a great picture of you and the moon. > > I have using LED position lights on my FireStar for about 4 years, the GA > pilots wish they could install them on their airplanes. I posted this video > about 3 years ago, 2 minutes into the video it shows my LED lights very > well. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1089406573728651489# > > Regards, > Will Uribe > FireStar II > El Paso, TX > > > BTW; If John Williamson was still with us he would have posted the FAA > Regs for us by now. > *Sec. 23.1385 - Position light system installation. and **Sec. 23.1387 - > Position light system dihedral angles* > > > ....Not to beat this already thoroughly dead horse any more than necessary > > > do y'all realize we are approaching SEAFOAM territory with this string...?)... > > > But... > > > Both military and civilian aircraft were widely equipped with "passing > > > lights" in the 1930's and all the way up through the early > > > 1950's. These were powerful, high-intensity red sealed- beam lights about > > > like landing lights... usually installed in the port wing or the nose, > > > designed to be turned on during bad visibility, or in high traffic areas to > > > prevent collisions with approaching head-on traffic. The standard > > > rule was to clear the oncoming traffic showing the light by turning to your > > > right, his left. > > > I can recall them installed in the landing light housings of C-46, C-47, > > > AT-6, BT-13, Fairchild, Waco, Beech, and many others... Was unable > > > to find any reference to their use in the current FAR's, but they were > > > certainly in wide use around airport traffic areas as a safety device > > > when I was a kid back in the stone age... > > > Unless the regs have changed, showing a red light in the forward aspect > > > should not be a problem...been done before. > > > Worth what ye paid fer it... > > > beauford > > > FF-076 > > > I stuck a couple of small LED lights on the top of my lift struts. > > > They are mounted in a small piece of lexan inserted into the top of > > > the strut. They are clear when off, and RED when turned on. > > > Gene > > > [quote] > > > Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, why do > > > you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand doofus Elton John > > > screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail lights, heading for Spai > > > -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? > > > Confused Richard Pike > > > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon From: fs2kolb@aol.com I'm sure glad this doesn't apply to our Kolbs Thanks Rick Will, Except for one small detail: 23.1 Applicability. (a) This part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type cer tificates, and changes to those certificates, for airplanes in the normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter categories. (my underline, RG) (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this part. While I don't deny there are lighting standards, or the need for them, thi s isn't where to look. Rick Girard -----Original Message----- From: Richard Girard Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:32 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon Will, Except for one small detail: 23.1 Applicability. (a) This part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type cer tificates, and changes to those certificates, for airplanes in the normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter categories. (my underline, RG) (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this part. While I don't deny there are lighting standards, or the need for them, thi s isn't where to look. Rick Girard On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:18 PM, wrote: Greetings, Gene that is a great picture of you and the moon. I have using LED position lights on my FireStar for about 4 years, the GA pilots wish they could install them on their airplanes. I posted this vid eo about 3 years ago, 2 minutes into the video it shows my LED lights very well. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1089406573728651489# Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II El Paso, TX BTW; If John Williamson was still with us he would have posted the FAA Reg s for us by now. Sec. 23.1385 - Position light system installation. and Sec. 23.1387 - Position light system dihedral angles ....Not to beat this already thoroughly dead horse any more than necessary do y'all realize we are approaching SEAFOAM territory with this string...? )... But... Both military and civilian aircraft were widely equipped with "passing lights" in the 1930's and all the way up through the early 1950's. These were powerful, high-intensity red sealed- beam lights about like landing lights... usually installed in the port wing or the nose, designed to be turned on during bad visibility, or in high traffic areas to prevent collisions with approaching head-on traffic. The standard rule was to clear the oncoming traffic showing the light by turning to you r right, his left. I can recall them installed in the landing light housings of C-46, C-47, AT-6, BT-13, Fairchild, Waco, Beech, and many others... Was unable to find any reference to their use in the current FAR's, but they were certainly in wide use around airport traffic areas as a safety device when I was a kid back in the stone age... Unless the regs have changed, showing a red light in the forward aspect should not be a problem...been done before. Worth what ye paid fer it... beauford FF-076 I stuck a couple of small LED lights on the top of my lift struts. They are mounted in a small piece of lexan inserted into the top of the strut. They are clear when off, and RED when turned on. Gene [quote] Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, why do you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand doofus Elton John screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail lights, heading for Spai -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? Confused Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:58 AM PST US From: "Vic" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot Thom/John Your right Trees and Water. We do have the "Golden Road" and 95. Neither one very busy. That's probaby not where crap would happen though. Parachute and some but protection would be the next choice. Anyone know what happens when a Kolb lands on water? John The guy that gave you a ride to the restaurant here in Millinocket is now the airport manager. The N3 Pup is in eastern Maine being rebuilt after running out of fuel. I was not here in 94' but bought my first part of the Kolb kit then after a visit to Oshkosh in 92'. Where you there? Didn't build until 07-08. Yawl come visit again Y'hear Vic in Maine still grinnin ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon From: Richard Girard I should have added, unless it's incorporated into the operating limitations of the aircraft. That's always the kicker. Rick Girard On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:16 AM, wrote: > I'm sure glad this doesn't apply to our Kolbs > Thanks > Rick > > > Will, Except for one small detail: > > 23.1 Applicability. > (a) This part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type > certificates, and changes to those certificates, for *airplanes in the > normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter categories*. (my underline, RG) > (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change > must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this part. > While I don't deny there are lighting standards, or the need for them, > this isn't where to look. > Rick Girard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Girard > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:32 am > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon > > Will, Except for one small detail: > > 23.1 Applicability. > (a) This part prescribes airworthiness standards for the issue of type > certificates, and changes to those certificates, for *airplanes in the > normal, utility, acrobatic, and commuter categories*. (my underline, RG) > (b) Each person who applies under Part 21 for such a certificate or change > must show compliance with the applicable requirements of this part. > While I don't deny there are lighting standards, or the need for them, > this isn't where to look. > Rick Girard > > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:18 PM, wrote: > >> >> Greetings, >> >> Gene that is a great picture of you and the moon. >> >> I have using LED position lights on my FireStar for about 4 years, the GA >> pilots wish they could install them on their airplanes. I posted this video >> about 3 years ago, 2 minutes into the video it shows my LED lights very >> well. >> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1089406573728651489# >> >> Regards, >> Will Uribe >> FireStar II >> El Paso, TX >> >> >> BTW; If John Williamson was still with us he would have posted the FAA >> Regs for us by now. >> *Sec. 23.1385 - Position light system installation. and **Sec. 23.1387 - >> Position light system dihedral angles* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ....Not to beat this already thoroughly dead horse any more than necessary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> do y'all realize we are approaching SEAFOAM territory with this string...?)... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> But... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Both military and civilian aircraft were widely equipped with "passing >> >> >> >> >> >> >> lights" in the 1930's and all the way up through the early >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 1950's. These were powerful, high-intensity red sealed- beam lights about >> >> >> >> >> >> >> like landing lights... usually installed in the port wing or the nose, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> designed to be turned on during bad visibility, or in high traffic areas to >> >> >> >> >> >> >> prevent collisions with approaching head-on traffic. The standard >> >> >> >> >> >> >> rule was to clear the oncoming traffic showing the light by turning to your >> >> >> >> >> >> >> right, his left. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I can recall them installed in the landing light housings of C-46, C-47, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> AT-6, BT-13, Fairchild, Waco, Beech, and many others... Was unable >> >> >> >> >> >> >> to find any reference to their use in the current FAR's, but they were >> >> >> >> >> >> >> certainly in wide use around airport traffic areas as a safety device >> >> >> >> >> >> >> when I was a kid back in the stone age... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Unless the regs have changed, showing a red light in the forward aspect >> >> >> >> >> >> >> should not be a problem...been done before. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Worth what ye paid fer it... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> beauford >> >> >> >> >> >> >> FF-076 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I stuck a couple of small LED lights on the top of my lift struts. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> They are mounted in a small piece of lexan inserted into the top of >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the strut. They are clear when off, and RED when turned on. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [quote] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Why do you want red lights facing forward? Or to put it another way, why do >> >> >> >> >> >> >> you want other pilots to be confused. (I can understand doofus Elton John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> screwing up, as in "I can see the red tail lights, heading for Spai >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -ai-ai-ain" but - why are you doing this? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Confused Richard Pike >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> >> >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> >> >> >> >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> >> >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> > * > > > =================================== > > > ator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > > =================================== > > > ttp://forums.matronics.com > > > =================================== > > > ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > =================================== > > > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:19 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot From: "Thom Riddle" Vic, Without floats a Kolb, like most airplanes, will likely flip over if "landing" on water. I've not pulled that stunt and hope never to do so, but have flipped one on a grass field after knocking the axle assembly off in a pot hole landing. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 If life gives you limes, make Margaritas. - Jimmy Buffet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302838#302838 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:28:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Yamaha powered MKIII for sale From: "moosepileit" Jason, I pm'd you and sent a message throught barnstormers. Rich Klarich Very Interested in both a Kolb for the folding wings and the economical 4 stroke installation. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302846#302846 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon From: willuribe@aol.com Greetings, My LED lights and strobes are from Kolb owner Dick Kuntzleman http://www.kestrobes.com/cat3.htm He offers LED landing lights with the Wig-Wag alternating flasher http://www.kestrobes.com/beacon.htm#LL1 We installed them because Dave had to fly missions for DOD at night. At times intercepted by the Coast Guard helicopter so we wanted to make sure they saw us. This year we didn't have to fly at night but I had some of the worst turbu lence ever on a 2 hour mission at 500' AGL. The return point is between 3 mountains, it gets tricky trying to stay up right while turning and the wind blowing from all directions. Sometimes they ask for another run at the bulls eye but my 10 gal fuel load doesn't allow it. One mission they flew 3 aircraft converged on the bulls eye. I was low flying below the mo untain tops, the CAP was flying high but the lady helicopter pilot had to come in over mountain tops. I was being tossed around but it must have been like hell for her. http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.3 9982,-106.138659&spn=0.035872,0.079222&t=h&z=14 Regards, Will Uribe FireStar II El Paso, TX PS, We all miss John W who always had a big smile. do not archive And Thank you for sharing the video. I really like your LED position ligh ts and I wonder what kind of flasher your system uses? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:04 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Kolb-List: Tach / regulator problem I'm having a bit of an electrical problem on my UltraStar. The plane has a Westach tach/EGT combo; the tach runs directly off the lighting coil on the Cuyuna and always worked fine. I just added a Key West regulator so I can have 12VDC power for my strobe and radio. The tach and regulator are wired in parallel to the lighting coil (unlike the Rotax, the Cuyuna has a single lighting coil). No battery. However, with the regulator connected, the tach reads low. Here's the weird part. When I first installed the regulator, the read low, no more than about 2500 rpm indicated at full throttle (6500 rpm). However, when I switched on the strobe, it read correctly, except for a momentary blip as the strobe fired. Figuring I needed a load on the regulator, I added a 50 ohm resistor to the output to draw a constant 1/4 amp. Now it indicates about 5000 rpm when the engine is actually doing 6500, regardless of whether the strobe is on or off. I then disconnected the resistor, which made no difference (still reads 5000). Finally, I disconnected the regulator, and the tach again reads correctly. I went up to the airfield yesterday with some other components and test leads, etc=85 figured on trying a capacitor across the output instead of the resistor, or a smaller resistor on the input between the tach and regulator, but it was too hot to fiddle with t=85 much nicer to go up a couple thousand feet and cool off. Has anybody else seen this problem? -Dana -- If aliens are smart enough to travel through space, why do they keep abducting the dumbest people on earth? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:40:20 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Full Moon Amen, Brother! john h mkIII Will Uribe FireStar II El Paso, TX PS, We all miss John W who always had a big smile. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:45:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tach / regulator problem From: "Richard Pike" I had a similar situation several years ago when I went through months of weirdness with my tach and my Key West regulator. Ended up buying a Tiny Tach and have had no more problems. You wrap a sensing wire around the spark plug lead and it counts the actual pulses. Simple, reliable and a digital readout. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302863#302863 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:26 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tach/regulator problem - Dana- Was the base of the regulator grounded?- I don't have experienc e with your particular hardware, but I have run across situations where a c ouple of extra ground wires will fix things.- Is your engine grounded to the airframe?- Regulator grounded to the engine?- Gauge cases grounded? - Just my first thought. - ------------------------- ------------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- FS 447 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:02 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tach / regulator problem At 02:45 PM 6/28/2010, Richard Pike wrote: > >I had a similar situation several years ago when I went through months of >weirdness with my tach and my Key West regulator. Ended up buying a Tiny >Tach and have had no more problems. You wrap a sensing wire around the >spark plug lead and it counts the actual pulses. Simple, reliable and a >digital readout. > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302863#302863 > > -- Why doesn't the fattest man in the world become a hockey goalie? ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:02 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tach / regulator problem At 02:45 PM 6/28/2010, Richard Pike wrote: > >I had a similar situation several years ago when I went through months of >weirdness with my tach and my Key West regulator. Ended up buying a Tiny >Tach and have had no more problems. You wrap a sensing wire around the >spark plug lead and it counts the actual pulses. Simple, reliable and a >digital readout. > >Richard Pike >MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302863#302863 > > -- Why doesn't the fattest man in the world become a hockey goalie? ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:03 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tach/regulator problem At 02:45 PM 6/28/2010, Richard Pike wrote: >I had a similar situation several years ago when I went through months of >weirdness with my tach and my Key West regulator. Ended up buying a Tiny >Tach and have had no more problems. You wrap a sensing wire around the >spark plug lead and it counts the actual pulses. Simple, reliable and a >digital readout. I use the Tiny Tach or the similar but better ENM tach on my PPGs, and it's one alternative I've considered (since I know it will work). Before I do, though, I'd like to try to get the existing setup working. At 03:20 PM 6/28/2010, william sullivan wrote: > Dana- Was the base of the regulator grounded? I don't have experience > with your particular hardware, but I have run across situations where a > couple of extra ground wires will fix things. Is your engine grounded to > the airframe? Regulator grounded to the engine? Gauge cases > grounded? Just my first thought. Nothing is grounded... the lighting coil is not grounded to the engine, nor [I think] should it need to be. The engine isn't grounded to the airframe (it's on rubber mounts), and there's nothing in the Key West instruction sheet about grounding it (two AC lines in, two DC lines out). -Dana -- Why doesn't the fattest man in the world become a hockey goalie? ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tach/regulator problem From: "George Alexander" Dana wrote: > > > < < < > > > > Nothing is grounded... the lighting coil is not grounded to the engine, nor [I think] should it need to be. The engine isn't grounded to the airframe (it's on rubber mounts), and there's nothing in the Key West instruction sheet about grounding it (two AC lines in, two DC lines out). > > -Dana > Dana: Couple of thoughts..... Grounding... since it is your intent to use the KW Reg/Rect to power your radio, you may want to do what most with a similar set up do. Ground strap from the engine to the airframe. After strap is installed, check to see if the case of the KWR/R is grounded through its mounting hardware to the engine block. It should be, but if not, add a strap to make it so. Wiring.... you had said in your first post that you wired the tach and the KWR/R in parallel. Don't know what the input stage of both the tach and the KWR/R are and even if I did, don't remember enough of my basic electronics to mean anything, but that configuration just doesn't sound right to me. May be pulling too much of a load for the lighting coil. I have a vague recollection that instructions with the KWR/R called for wiring it in series if you were using a lighting coil driven strobe. I know that this is not what your situation is, but the circuitry might be similar enough to warrant doing it the same way. Another alternative is to connect the tach to something other than the lighting coil. If you don't have a tach lead on the Cuyuna, maybe the kill switch????? Westach can give you information that is far more valuable than mine. -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302912#302912 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:22:06 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot license From: Duane Ransdell Hi everyone, Just wondering how many of you have earned your Sport Pilot's license or did you find it easier to just get a Private Pilot license? I'm finding that it is a real hassle to get certified. Duane ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:29:52 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot From: zeprep251@aol.com Pull the Navy trick and dip a wing tip into the water just above stall and back into the drink -----Original Message----- From: Thom Riddle Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 11:40 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: We now Have another Kolb Pilot Vic, Without floats a Kolb, like most airplanes, will likely flip over if "land ing" on water. I've not pulled that stunt and hope never to do so, but have fli pped one on a grass field after knocking the axle assembly off in a pot hole la nding. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 If life gives you limes, make Margaritas. - Jimmy Buffet Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302838#302838 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:08 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Tach/regulator problem At 08:03 PM 6/28/2010, George Alexander wrote: >Grounding... since it is your intent to use the KW Reg/Rect to power your >radio, you may want to do what most with a similar set up do. Ground >strap from the engine to the airframe. After strap is installed, check to >see if the case of the KWR/R is grounded through its mounting hardware to >the engine block. It should be, but if not, add a strap to make it so. Shouldn't matter, but it's one thing I'll try if nothing else works. It's only power to a handheld radio and GPS, so they don't need an airframe ground. >Wiring.... you had said in your first post that you wired the tach and the >KWR/R in parallel. Don't know what the input stage of both the tach and >the KWR/R are and even if I did, don't remember enough of my basic >electronics to mean anything, but that configuration just doesn't sound >right to me. May be pulling too much of a load for the lighting coil. > >I have a vague recollection that instructions with the KWR/R called for >wiring it in series if you were using a lighting coil driven strobe. I >know that this is not what your situation is, but the circuitry might be >similar enough to warrant doing it the same way. Lighting coil strobe is a different animal. The tach (according to Westach, who also suggested some things to try) needs at least 7VAC to operate, and unlike a strobe, it won't pass enough current to the regulator. >Another alternative is to connect the tach to something other than the >lighting coil. If you don't have a tach lead on the Cuyuna, maybe the >kill switch????? Westach can give you information that is far more >valuable than mine. No tach lead on the Cuyuna; the lighting coil is where it's supposed to go. Hopefully tomorrow's weather will be good enough to spend some time at the airfield. -Dana -- I started out with nothing. I still have most of it left. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:38:17 PM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 06/26/10 Congratulations Vic on your first flight in the Kolb. That is wonderful and encouraging. I had the privilege of flying out of Millinocket airport several years ago in a Cherokee when visiting a friend who started and established Tri-Town Baptist Church in E. Millinocket. Was impressed with Catoddin Mtn. (spelling?). Beautiful area. He has moved on to bigger planes and flys out of Sanford. I am still working on my Mark III X. To take delivery of the VW engine from Great Plains this month while at EAA. I did not get a copy of photo of your plane. Can you post it again? Thanks Bob ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:56 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: FireStar Tail Wheel Rod/Spring Hi Guys, My Original FireStar has suffered some damage. In January a severe wind storm caused an 80' tall pine tree to snap off at the 40' high point, which then fell onto my hangar. The hangar is one of those instant car garages, consisting of round metal roof rafters and a canvas cover. It is 12' wide X 24' long and I fold the wings on the Kolb to park it inside. The tree fell onto the hangar longitudely, that is, it did not fall directly on top of the Kolb (well a few branches did) because it hit slightly off the center line on the left side. But, the hangar rafters were bent down and they contacted the left folded wing, destroying the aileron, leading and trailing wing spars, bent some ribs and the bow tip was crumpled. The main spar was ok. Since the wing was pushed downward really hard, it tore out the wing support cross tube that goes thru the boom tube. Both of the outer ends of the elevators were damaged. Rudder was OK. The tail wheel, which was sitting in the tail wheel dolly, was broken at the welded joint and the fiberglass tail spring rod was broken where it exits the steel tube on the plane. Some other damage was: Dented muffler, but still usable; Fuselage fabric support bent down and fabric torn on left side. I have already rebuilt the wing, built a new aileron and repaired the elevators. Also have stripped all the fabric off the fuselage (it was 15 years old) and will recover it. Question. I got a new 3/4" aluminum tail wheel rod/spring from Travis. It fits kind of loose into both the tail wheel bracket and the steel fuselage tube. What is a good way to shim this to make a better fit. (The original fiberglass rod was epoxied in place and was a bear to drill out. I don't want to do that to the metal rod.) Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:59:18 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot License Duane, I got my Sport Pilot License because I wanted to be legal flying my FSII. I was grand fathered in, and given credit for my ASC ultralight license. This made getting my Sport Pilot license a little easier. By NO means was it a cake walk. I still logged ten hours of ground school, and ten hours of flight instruction. Took and passed the written and practical tests. The closest instructor I could find was a two hour drive from where I live. Yes, it was a real hassle, especially since I had already been flying as an ultralight for so many years. However, in retrospect it was worth it, to not have to worry about being busted flying a fat ultralight. I would suggest you move forward with the SP certificate and soon the hassle will be in the past. You can always add on to the SP and become a PP. Lanny Fetterman N598LF Do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sport Pilot License From: Duane Ransdell Thanks for the reply Lanny. I do intend to press through and make it work. It's just frustrating that they make someone jump through a bunch of hoops when you already know how to do what it is they require. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Lanny Fetterman wrote: > > Duane, I got my Sport Pilot License because I wanted to be legal flying my > FSII. I was grand fathered in, and given credit for my ASC ultralight > license. This made getting my Sport Pilot license a little easier. By NO > means was it a cake walk. I still logged ten hours of ground school, and ten > hours of flight instruction. Took and passed the written and practical > tests. The closest instructor I could find was a two hour drive from where I > live. Yes, it was a real hassle, especially since I had already been flying > as an ultralight for so many years. However, in retrospect it was worth it, > to not have to worry about being busted flying a fat ultralight. I would > suggest you move forward with the SP certificate and soon the hassle will be > in the past. You can always add on to the SP and become a PP. Lanny > Fetterman N598LF Do not archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.