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Tue 07/20/10


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:16 AM - Re: Soap box for GeoB (long) (GeoB)
     2. 02:59 AM - Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips (icrashrc)
     3. 03:38 AM - Re: Critique my Fuel System. (Thom Riddle)
     4. 05:37 AM - Simple video for Larry (John Bickham)
     5. 05:48 AM - Re: Homer Kolb - It was a year ago today he passed... (John Bickham)
     6. 06:01 AM - Re: Simple video for Larry (robert bean)
     7. 06:13 AM - Re: Simple video for Larry (John Hauck)
     8. 06:14 AM - Re: Future Kolb pilot born on July 9th (Kip)
     9. 07:26 AM - Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips (SAILNROCK)
    10. 09:12 AM - Pitot-static system (mark rinehart)
    11. 09:37 AM - Re: Pitot-static system (Dana Hague)
    12. 09:43 AM - Re: Pitot-static system (b young)
    13. 09:47 AM - Re: Future Kolb pilot born on July 9th (Kolb Aircraft)
    14. 10:32 AM - Re: Pitot-static system (Tom Longo)
    15. 12:17 PM - New Camera test (Larry Cottrell)
    16. 02:59 PM - Re: Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips (Richard Girard)
    17. 03:33 PM - Re: New Camera test (lhaggerty)
    18. 05:32 PM - Re: New Camera test (Larry Cottrell)
    19. 07:27 PM - Rib Stitching (Richard Pike)
    20. 07:58 PM - Re: Rib Stitching (robert bean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soap box for GeoB (long)
    From: "GeoB" <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
    > join the EAA, both national and your local chapter. I have joined National and local. I am active and handling some of the club responsibilities. > It will need to be registered as an Experimental Amateur Built It is.. has been flying for a few years (278 hours). > it won't make weight with any engine you've mentioned that would be safe to fly Is there ANY known engine that would be legal and safe? Anyone? GeoB -------- GeoB &quot;Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors&quot; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305549#305549


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    Time: 02:59:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/wingtip_modifications.htm -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305553#305553


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    Time: 03:38:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Critique my Fuel System.
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Dennis, Mung has more than one meaning, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mung I assume Richard was using it in the "disgusting substance" sense. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 We are the people our parents warned us about. - Jimmy Buffett Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305554#305554


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    Time: 05:37:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Simple video for Larry
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    Video of Kolb flight. This is with new camera and using foam to dampen vibrations. Nothing special. Just Kolb flying. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRGFLqicsY -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305574#305574


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    Time: 05:48:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb - It was a year ago today he passed...
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    Special moment that I treasure. So appreciative! -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305577#305577 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/copy_of_tnk_2007a_041_162.jpg


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    Time: 06:01:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Simple video for Larry
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Thanks for the nice ride. I like the southern polka music :) I thought your strip was short? Lot more room than mine. BB On 20, Jul 2010, at 8:36 AM, John Bickham wrote: > > Video of Kolb flight. > This is with new camera and using foam to dampen vibrations. > Nothing special. Just Kolb flying. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRGFLqicsY > > -------- > Thanks too much, > > John Bickham > Mark III-C w/ 912UL > St. Francisville, LA > > I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305574#305574 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:13:09 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Simple video for Larry
    > Nothing special. Just Kolb flying. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYRGFLqicsY > > -------- > Thanks too much, > > John Bickham John B: Looks good to me. James Tripp took me up to Gantt Interntional Airport last week to crank my mkIII, first time in over two months. Battery was down a bit. My solar charger is not keeping up like it should. We jumped it off with one of those small jump start rigs. I need to get me one of those when I start flying again. The 912ULS popped right off and ran like a clock after a few seconds to get her pipes cleaned out. If I could get in the airplane, I think I could fly it, but the grass on the airstrip is near waist high. Clutch on the McCormick W-9 is way to strong for me to try to push with my bum leg, so the bush hogging will have to wait until I get in a little better shape. It was great to see, feel, and hear the airplane come alive and run, even though I could not fly it. john h mkIII - 3,000.0+ airframe and 440.0 on the 912ULS.


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    Time: 06:14:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Future Kolb pilot born on July 9th
    From: "Kip" <klaurie@mindspring.com>
    Congratulations, Cristal... :D -------- 2000 Firestar II R503 DCDI VLS 750 2010 Waiex Jabiru 3300 1980 Quickie 1 Electric? Needs restoration! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305581#305581


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    Time: 07:26:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips
    From: "SAILNROCK" <SAILNROCK@verizon.net>
    Thank Icrashrc That link is great I am looking in to them. Has any one use them on a FS II, if so with what improvements, I love the look too. Thanks too all again. Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305586#305586


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    Time: 09:12:57 AM PST US
    From: mark rinehart <capt_riney@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Pitot-static system
    I'm installing my ASI and Altimeter for my Mark IIIC. I'll install a pitot tube under the nose for total pressure, but am thinking I will not have a separate static port but just leave the instruments open to the cockpit for static pressure. Anyone have experience with that? I'm assuming that since the cockpit isn't sealed, the static pressure inside is fairly close to outside ambient. Mark Rinehart Indianapolis


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    Time: 09:37:43 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot-static system
    At 12:12 PM 7/20/2010, mark rinehart wrote: > >I'm installing my ASI and Altimeter for my Mark IIIC. I'll install a >pitot tube under the nose for total pressure, but am thinking I will not >have a separate static port but just leave the instruments open to the >cockpit for static pressure. Anyone have experience with that? I'm >assuming that since the cockpit isn't sealed, the static pressure inside >is fairly close to outside ambient. Don't assume that. Depending on the shape of the cockpit fairing and openings, the pressure inside can be considerably higher or lower than the static pressure... and it can change as AOA changes. Still, many do that and sometimes it works fine. I don't have a cockpit on my UltraStar, just an instrument pod between my legs, and it was vented there. Every time I moved my foot the indicated airspeed changed. I've since made a concentric tube pitot tube, with four holes in the outer tube for static air. Works great. -Dana -- Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis


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    Time: 09:43:12 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: Pitot-static system
    I'm installing my ASI and Altimeter for my Mark IIIC. I'll install a pitot tube under the nose for total pressure, but am thinking I will not have a separate static port but just leave the instruments open to the cockpit for static pressure. Anyone have experience with that? I'm assuming that since the cockpit isn't sealed, the static pressure inside is fairly close to outside ambient. Mark Rinehart Indianapolis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it seems the concencus is that the readings will be off, each one is different depending on the instalation. boyd mkiii do not archive


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    Time: 09:47:07 AM PST US
    From: "Kolb Aircraft" <customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: Future Kolb pilot born on July 9th
    Cristal congratulations to you and your family. Bless you all and please post more pictures when you can. Travis Kolb CO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:19 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Future Kolb pilot born on July 9th > <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> > > Hi all. Haven't been able to keep up much with the forum, but wanted to > let you all know I am doing fine. My baby was born July 9th, 6 weeks > early. She has to be on an apnea monitor but is so blessed. She only had > to stay in the hospital for 8 days. > My husband and 17-year old son and I are so proud and glad to finally have > her home with us. > I know some of you were thinking and praying for us. We appreciate it. I > only had my cell phone to take pictures since they shipped me off to > Savannah to have her but have attached them here even though they aren't > the best quality. > > -------- > Cristal Waters > Kolb Mark II Twinstar > Rotax 503 DCSI > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305529#305529 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/daddy_holding_up_abbys_week_old_foot_192.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/sleeping_against_her_fist_183.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rooming_in_finally_on_7_16_376.jpg > > >


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    Time: 10:32:37 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Longo" <tclongo@att.net>
    Subject: Pitot-static system
    My MKIII read 10 mph too high with my static vented inside cockpit (Low pressure) in my case. I ordered pitot/static combo (L shaped unit) from Aircraft Spruce that was inexpensive and Airspeed was correct. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dana Hague Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:30 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pitot-static system At 12:12 PM 7/20/2010, mark rinehart wrote: I'm installing my ASI and Altimeter for my Mark IIIC. I'll install a pitot tube under the nose for total pressure, but am thinking I will not have a separate static port but just leave the instruments open to the cockpit for static pressure. Anyone have experience with that? I'm assuming that since the cockpit isn't sealed, the static pressure inside is fairly close to outside ambient. Don't assume that. Depending on the shape of the cockpit fairing and openings, the pressure inside can be considerably higher or lower than the static pressure... and it can change as AOA changes. Still, many do that and sometimes it works fine. I don't have a cockpit on my UltraStar, just an instrument pod between my legs, and it was vented there. Every time I moved my foot the indicated airspeed changed. I've since made a concentric tube pitot tube, with four holes in the outer tube for static air. Works great. -Dana -- Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!


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    Time: 12:17:04 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: New Camera test
    Some of you may remember I have been shopping for a new camera with better quality and longer recording time. I had good advise, that I of course chose to ignore, and bought a Holdr HD camera. While it took some very good videos, I could not play them on my TV, had to use Quick Time to view them, had to buy Quick Time Pro from Apple to edit it. (The program would not read music without buying another program.) If I converted it to AVI, there was no sound and the quality was degraded with each conversion. Some of the clips wouldn't play. The Camera had something wrong with it so that the computer would not recognize it. They offered to repair or replace the camera. No thanks! I decided to go with John Bickhams recommendation of the Tachyon XC. It is bigger, but quite a bit cheaper than the Vholder. My problem was with the mounting of the camera. John put his on his wind screen and his apparently does not have as much vibration as mine. I tried using a side mount with a foam base, but there was harmonic vibration in a test that I did this morning. So I reverted to my original mounting point and put it on the nose. The view is better and the vibration is less. I was a bit short on camera threaded screws, but this one will do until I get another one. You will notice that there is no padding under the swivel mount, but I think the video is acceptable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7C-lShJdc I just viewed it on You Tube, and of course the quality sucks, It looks great on the computer and on the TV, but I guess one can't complain. One other comment, I viewed John's video this morning, and while I may end up on my back in case of a forced landing out here in the desert, and I may die of dehydration while trying to walk out, I most likely won't hit anything harder than my head, unlike all those closely packed trees. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address.


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    Time: 02:59:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb FS II wing mods/adding droop tips
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Nice tips. How are you going to attach the counter weights? Rick Girard On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:59 AM, icrashrc <icrashrc@aol.com> wrote: > > http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/wingtip_modifications.htm > > -------- > Scott > > www.ill-EagleAviation.com > > do not archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305553#305553 > >


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    Time: 03:33:42 PM PST US
    From: "lhaggerty" <lhaggerty@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: New Camera test
    Have you tried a helmet or head strap? They work good, take up any vibration and will auotmaticly point the camera where ever you look, and you have hand access to the camera controls. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: New Camera test Some of you may remember I have been shopping for a new camera with better quality and longer recording time. I had good advise, that I of course chose to ignore, and bought a Holdr HD camera. While it took some very good videos, I could not play them on my TV, had to use Quick Time to view them, had to buy Quick Time Pro from Apple to edit it. (The program would not read music without buying another program.) If I converted it to AVI, there was no sound and the quality was degraded with each conversion. Some of the clips wouldn't play. The Camera had something wrong with it so that the computer would not recognize it. They offered to repair or replace the camera. No thanks! I decided to go with John Bickhams recommendation of the Tachyon XC. It is bigger, but quite a bit cheaper than the Vholder. My problem was with the mounting of the camera. John put his on his wind screen and his apparently does not have as much vibration as mine. I tried using a side mount with a foam base, but there was harmonic vibration in a test that I did this morning. So I reverted to my original mounting point and put it on the nose. The view is better and the vibration is less. I was a bit short on camera threaded screws, but this one will do until I get another one. You will notice that there is no padding under the swivel mount, but I think the video is acceptable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7C-lShJdc I just viewed it on You Tube, and of course the quality sucks, It looks great on the computer and on the TV, but I guess one can't complain. One other comment, I viewed John's video this morning, and while I may end up on my back in case of a forced landing out here in the desert, and I may die of dehydration while trying to walk out, I most likely won't hit anything harder than my head, unlike all those closely packed trees. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address.


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    Time: 05:32:37 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: New Camera test
    Actually I have done just that and it is surprising how fast and often your heard snaps around when you are flying, especially close to the ground. The brain makes it seem smooth, but watching it can give you whiplash, plus the lexan even though it is clear, does not do anything to improve the quality. I personally prefer to have a clear and unfettered view ahead of the plane. There are no bars in the way and the quality is not further degraded by the windscreen. All you have to do is point the airplane to see what you see, you just have to remember that the objects are closer than they appear. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: lhaggerty To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:33 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Camera test Have you tried a helmet or head strap? They work good, take up any vibration and will auotmaticly point the camera where ever you look, and you have hand access to the camera controls. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Kolb-List: New Camera test Some of you may remember I have been shopping for a new camera with better quality and longer recording time. I had good advise, that I of course chose to ignore, and bought a Holdr HD camera. While it took some very good videos, I could not play them on my TV, had to use Quick Time to view them, had to buy Quick Time Pro from Apple to edit it. (The program would not read music without buying another program.) If I converted it to AVI, there was no sound and the quality was degraded with each conversion. Some of the clips wouldn't play. The Camera had something wrong with it so that the computer would not recognize it. They offered to repair or replace the camera. No thanks! I decided to go with John Bickhams recommendation of the Tachyon XC. It is bigger, but quite a bit cheaper than the Vholder. My problem was with the mounting of the camera. John put his on his wind screen and his apparently does not have as much vibration as mine. I tried using a side mount with a foam base, but there was harmonic vibration in a test that I did this morning. So I reverted to my original mounting point and put it on the nose. The view is better and the vibration is less. I was a bit short on camera threaded screws, but this one will do until I get another one. You will notice that there is no padding under the swivel mount, but I think the video is acceptable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y7C-lShJdc I just viewed it on You Tube, and of course the quality sucks, It looks great on the computer and on the TV, but I guess one can't complain. One other comment, I viewed John's video this morning, and while I may end up on my back in case of a forced landing out here in the desert, and I may die of dehydration while trying to walk out, I most likely won't hit anything harder than my head, unlike all those closely packed trees. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address.


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    Time: 07:27:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Rib Stitching
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Had a friend come over today and help me with the covering. Occurred to me that maybe some Kolbers had never done or seen any rib stitching, so we filmed it. This is doing the false ribs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=estp-yxb0XA This is doing the normal ribs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJjuljzCpbI Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305684#305684


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    Time: 07:58:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rib Stitching
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Very well done Richard. The advantages are: doesn't weaken the rib as much as drilling and riveting and if you need to recover you don't have to drill 'em out. -besides, it looks neat. BB On 20, Jul 2010, at 10:26 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Had a friend come over today and help me with the covering. Occurred to me that maybe some Kolbers had never done or seen any rib stitching, so we filmed it. > This is doing the false ribs: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=estp-yxb0XA > > This is doing the normal ribs: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJjuljzCpbI > > > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305684#305684 > > > > > > > > > >




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