---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/22/10: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:29 AM - Re: Test () 2. 05:32 AM - avoided a forced landing (Ralph B) 3. 05:44 AM - Re: portable hydraulic press (frank goodnight) 4. 07:03 AM - Re: Rib Stitching (Richard Pike) 5. 07:19 AM - Firestar repair (william sullivan) 6. 07:31 AM - Re: Rib Stitching (Richard Pike) 7. 08:19 AM - Re: Pitot-static system (lhaggerty) 8. 08:47 AM - Airplane History assistance? (Thumper) 9. 09:25 AM - Transponder Inspection? (gotime242) 10. 09:59 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 07/21/10 (Bob Green) 11. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 07/21/10 (John Hauck) 12. 10:54 AM - Re: avoided a forced landing (chris davis) 13. 11:25 AM - Re: avoided a forced landing (Ralph B) 14. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: avoided a forced landing (John Hauck) 15. 02:17 PM - Camping in the ultralight area @ Oshkosh (icrashrc) 16. 02:23 PM - Re: Transponder Inspection? (Richard Pike) 17. 06:12 PM - test (Larry Cottrell) 18. 07:10 PM - Re: Transponder Inspection? (ces308) 19. 08:47 PM - Re: Firestar repair (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 20. 08:54 PM - list malfunction? (Larry Cottrell) 21. 08:57 PM - Re: Fw: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com) 22. 09:01 PM - vid (Larry Cottrell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:08 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Test Recieved them all on the other side of the world. Great press. Downunder MK111c ----- Original Message ----- From: Jmmy Hankinson To: kolb-list@matronics.com ; Jimmy Hankinson Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:59 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Test Just checking if I am still on the list. Sent two post today and have not seen then on my internet. One was too large and was returned. Removed 4 pictures and sent only three the nest time. If anyone has seen them, let me know. Jimmy Hankinson Firefly N6007L Sylvania, Georgia ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: avoided a forced landing From: "Ralph B" I found a hole wearing through the radiator hose of the Kolbra yesterday. The only reason I found it was because a fellow pilot sprung a leak on his 912 Titan on his way to Idaho a week ago. That part of the hose cannot be seen in a preflight without feeling the back of it. It was rubbing against the vent tube of the oil cannister which even had a rubber sheath around it to protect it from wearing through. Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305917#305917 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hole_wearing_through__166.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:31 AM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Re: Kolb-List: portable hydraulic press Verry nice rig Jim. when you can't get to all the parts for Jims rig. just a 1/4 =0Ain. chain=0Awith 2 chain hooks and a small hyd jack will get you b ack in the air again- use =0Athem=0Ajust like you would Jims rig. cheap efe ctive and the parts can be bought almost =0Aanywhere.=0A=0AFrank goodnight =0AFirestar 2=0ABrownsville , TX=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0AFrom: Jmmy Hankinson =0ATo: kolb-list@matronic s.com; Jimmy Hankinson =0ASent: Wed, July 21, 2010 11 :38:18 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: portable hydraulic press=0A=0A=0AThis is a portable hydraulic press that I designed to straighten the legs of my =0AFi refly.=0A-=0AThe unit can be used OFF the Firefly or attached to the leg without removing the =0Awheel and associated parts.=0A-=0AParts used.=0A -------- 5 inch wide channel iron 15 inches long=0A-- ------ 4 ton hydraulic jack, (Harbor Freight)------ ------------ =0A-------- 2 -I/8 x 1 inch flat iron 17 inches long=0A-------- 2 1/8 x 1 inch flat iron 8 inches long (brace)=0A-------- Heavy duty chain (1) 7 inches, (1) 8 inches)=0A-------- 2 3/8 inch Chain co nnectors =0A-------- One jack adapter Made on lathe=0A- ------- One 1 inch conduit bending tool head=0A---- ---- 3/8bolts only. =BC inch WILL brake=0A1 jack handle 22 inches l ong to fit jack (4130), also serves as a carrying =0Ahandle=0A-=0AJimmy H ankinson=0AFirefly N6007L=0ARocky Ford, Georgia ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rib Stitching From: "Richard Pike" [quote="WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.co"]In a message dated 7/21/2010 12:41:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, richard@bcchapel.org writes: > Here are pictures comparing two adjacent ribs, one the riveted tip rib, and one stitched, the finishing tape has not yet been ironed. > > Richard, > I noticed that the first picture showed pinked edges on the finishing tape, while the second picture showed straight edged tape. Are these on the same plane/wing? > > Bill Varnes > Original Kolb FireStar > Audubon NJ > Yep. I wanted to use bias tape on the final outboard rib, as the fabric at the front drops off at a fairly steep angle, and the straight tape would wrinkle badly. Unfortunately, the only bias tape I have has pinked edges, so it will be slightly different from the rest of the tapes, but I don't think it will show much after it is painted. Good catch. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305933#305933 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:18 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar repair - Bill Varnes- How are you making out on the repair job? - do not archive ------------------------- --------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- --------------- Windsor Locks, Ct ------------------------- --------------- FS 447 - ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Rib Stitching From: "Richard Pike" John Hauck wrote: > > Maybe if both systems are using the same width reinforcing tape. However, I believe 1/4" reinforcing tape will not be as strong as 1/2". > > john h > mkIII I believe you are right. Now we are both happy. :D Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305939#305939 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:17 AM PST US From: "lhaggerty" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pitot-static system Thank You. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Longo To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:25 PM Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Pitot-static system I used Aircraft Spruce part # 15144 $25 -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of lhaggerty Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:56 PM To: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pitot-static system Which L shaped unit did you use. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Longo To: kolb-list@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Airplane History assistance? From: "Thumper" I bought a Firestar KX from a Don Keller in Sylvania OH. He bought it from a Don or Donald Jacobs (best he can remember) in the Louisville KY area. I am trying to find its build history and when first flown? I hope someone recognizes this plane and can help. Approximately 100 hours on the meter and very well built and detailed. -------- Dennis Long Oakland TN Kolb Ultrastar Owner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305951#305951 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/file0209_749.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/file0208_374.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/file0207_201.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:25:08 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Transponder Inspection? From: "gotime242" Hello, i would like to fly my kolb in a mode c vail without having to call each time. I see some cheap transponders pop up on barnstormers and similar...can i install these myself? Do they need an inspection from a avionics shop? What all is needed to do this? Any kolbers out there have tx's installed, pics? Thanks! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305959#305959 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:27 AM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 07/21/10 Hello Gang: I want to say up front that I respect my friend Richard and know he is a great innovator. He has many great ideas. He has gained much experience as he has rebuilt Kolbs. I am very appreciative that he was actually able to come to my house and inspect my wing assembly work. I also have great respect for John H. one of our mentors. When I was considering "rivets or stitching" I talked to both Richard and John H. but also Travis at Kolb. Travis suggested I do an experiment. At his suggestion I took a small piece (1') of the rib size tubing and drilled a 1/8th inch hole (the size of the rivet used by Kolb). I then bent the tubing to see how much effort was necessary to break the tubing. It of course broke where the hole was. As per Travis' recommendation I then drilled another piece and installed a rivet of the type used to secure the fabric. With the rivet expanded/pulled in the hole, the tubing broke again but only after much greater force. Installing the rivets on the ribs actually compensates for the holes drilled in the tubing. Lord willing and of course, if I don't do anything careless (as I have been know to do), I hope I will not have to "rebuild" my wings or ribs. Any serious damage would probably necessitate replacing ribs anyway as well as fabric --- stitching, rivets or otherwise. I decided to go with what Kolb recommended, and John. I am satisfied that following Kolb's recommendation-- using rivets-- I have a strong wing. I did space the rivets in the three root ribs at about 2 1/2" so as to keep the fabric from "drumming". All the rib-stitchers can say "I told you so" if I am wrong. Thanks Matte for the list.. Bob Wings complete for MKIIIX ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:55 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: Kolb-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 07/21/10 > I decided to go with what Kolb recommended, and John. > Bob > Wings complete for MKIIIX Hi Bob G: Congratulations on completing your wings. That is a big milestone done. Don't want folks to think I recommend anything. Normally, I don't. Usually, I tell you what I do and you can make your own decision on which way to go. Still can not walk without my walker, but getting better every day. My goal is to be back on my feet by 1 Sep. My physical therapist says I can do it. My medical and BRF have expired, as have Miss P'fer's Annual Inspection, but we have all that lined up as soon as I am able to get'er done. If I am good to go 1 Sep, I will most likely make my annual road trip West. If not, we'll do it next year, and plan on making MV 2011, and for sure the Rock House, Larry and Karen Cottrell's next May. Times a wasting... john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:13 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: avoided a forced landing RalphGlad you found the wear spot before your trip toOshkosh !Got bad news as far as meeting you is concerned ,We wont be going to Oshkosh this tear due to financial restraints, Sorry maybe we can get together another time . C Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ----- Original Message ---- From: Ralph B Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 8:32:38 AM Subject: Kolb-List: avoided a forced landing I found a hole wearing through the radiator hose of the Kolbra yesterday. The only reason I found it was because a fellow pilot sprung a leak on his 912 Titan on his way to Idaho a week ago. That part of the hose cannot be seen in a preflight without feeling the back of it. It was rubbing against the vent tube of the oil cannister which even had a rubber sheath around it to protect it from wearing through. Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305917#305917 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/hole_wearing_through__166.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:35 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: avoided a forced landing From: "Ralph B" Chris and others, I won't get the Kolbra fixed before Oshkosh so I will be driving in. I want to replace both the inlet and outlet hoses. The hose is made by "Gates". I wonder if it's a specialty hose or typical auto radiator hose? Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305980#305980 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:09 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: avoided a forced landing > The hose is made by "Gates". I wonder if it's a specialty hose or typical auto radiator hose? > > Ralph B Ralph B: I use/used Gates or any other premium 1" ID radiator hose for my three 912 engines. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:32 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Camping in the ultralight area @ Oshkosh From: "icrashrc" In the past I've always parked my car in the blue lot and walked in the front gate. This year we plan on driving a RV and camping. I would like to camp in the UL area but have no idea where to enter, pay, etc. Do they have campsites marked out? Any other tips would be much appreciated. Thanks, -------- Scott www.ill-EagleAviation.com do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306001#306001 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:35 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Transponder Inspection? From: "Richard Pike" gotime242 wrote: > Hello, i would like to fly my kolb in a mode c vail without having to call each time. I see some cheap transponders pop up on barnstormers and similar...can i install these myself? Do they need an inspection from a avionics shop? What all is needed to do this? > > Any kolbers out there have tx's installed, pics? > > Thanks! The answers are 1. Yes 2. Supposedly at each annual inspection - although if your mode C is accurate, you won't attract any attention... 3.About $400 if you get lucky, more if you don't. Here's my tx & txp. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg4.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306002#306002 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:11 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: test test Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Transponder Inspection? From: "ces308" Yes you can put it in....and yes it has to have a VFR certification and they are good for 24 months...I just had me M3X done in feb for $50.00...he checked it and had to adjust the altitude on the mode c part. Call around for prices.... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru 139.4 hrs N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306043#306043 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:38 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar repair In a message dated 7/22/2010 10:19:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, williamtsullivan@att.net writes: Bill Varnes- How are you making out on the repair job? Hi Bill Sullivan, Thanks for asking. I have finished repairing the metal components (left wing & aileron, both elevators, boom tube, and fuselage fabric fairing tubes) BUT, the weather around here is much too hot and humid for working fabric and painting. I have never seen it this hot in June, and now we' re into July which is always hot and humid, then comes the August 'Dog Days'. Also, its my age (73). I cannot take the heat anymore, so I guess it will get done a little later than I expected. Hope your repairs are going faster than mine. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:12 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: list malfunction? I have tried to send an email with a link to a you tube video, but it hasn't gone through three times now. Any clues? The test mail went through with no problem. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:44 PM PST US From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: MidValleyA/P: Good Gas Kurt, Thank you very much for posting that Ethanol Free Gas site. NJ state law prevents any gas stations from selling Ethanol Free gas. But Pennsylvania law does allow it and I have found one station within 60 miles. I passed the info on to my friends at EAA Chapter 216 - South Jersey. Already two fellows have gone there and purchased gas and a couple more are getting tanks set up to do the same. So, thank you again for this information. Bill Varnes Original FireStar Audubon, NJ Do Not Archive In a message dated 7/16/2010 6:20:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frank.goodnight@att.net writes: Many of you probably know of this site already, but I just ran across it. It lists ethanol free gas stations by state. 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