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1. 04:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/03/10 (Thom Riddle)
2. 10:09 AM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Richard Girard)
3. 10:55 AM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (ces308)
4. 12:38 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Ralph B)
5. 01:23 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (ces308)
6. 01:36 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (ces308)
7. 02:37 PM - Re: Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Richard Neilsen)
8. 04:30 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (ces308)
9. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Richard Girard)
10. 05:45 PM - Re: tail boom question (b young)
11. 05:52 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (b young)
12. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (russ kinne)
13. 06:12 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Beauford)
14. 06:36 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (JetPilot)
15. 07:10 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS (Ralph B)
16. 07:29 PM - Re: tail boom question (awcbs)
17. 07:35 PM - Re: tail boom question (awcbs)
18. 07:41 PM - Re: Re: tail boom question (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
19. 08:04 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI CABLE BRACKET (Jon LaVasseur)
20. 09:46 PM - Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI CABLE BRACKET (ces308)
21. 09:50 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/04/10 (George Bearden)
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 10/03/10 |
Ted,
My slingshot hits a wall at 95 mph and that is its top speed. Anything above about
85 mph requires more and more nose down elevator. I believe that this is due
to the thrust line angle being way too high, as you mentioned. I suspected
this but could not get Travis to tell me what angle it was supposed to be so I've
left it alone. The drawings and plans that I have don't say. That is probably
why Travis could not tell me.
Now that I know your aft end of the mount is 7/8" higher than the forward end,
I can start thinking seriously about fixing mine. Since the motor mount for the
Jabiru is way different from the Rotax, 7/8" may not be the right answer for
me.
At your convenience, if you could measure the thrust line angle relative to the
bottom chord of the wing and let me know what that is, I can adjust the Jabiru
motor mount for that angle. Right now, my thrust line is pointing UP by 3.5
degrees relative to the bottom chord of the wing and it should be pointing down
somewhat relative to the bottom chord, based on your photo and what you said.
Thanks for your help.
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Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
These are the plans I got from the forum. I didn't make a note of who sent
them. I apologize.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:59 PM, ces308 <ces308@ldaco.com> wrote:
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> Hello all....
> I have seen and even copied plans to covert water skis to snowskis and I
> can not find them anywhere...I did find some in older post ,but could not
> make them come up. If you have a set of plans,will you please post them
> again ??
>
> Thank you in advance !!
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jabiru 154. hrs
> N327CS
>
>
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4.00 C gearbox
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
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to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Thank you Rick !
These were the ones....we be skiing this winter !! If there are any others out
there you would be willing to share I would like to see them too !
Thanks !
chris ambrose
M3X / Jabiru 154.hrs
N327CS
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
> These are the plans I got from the forum. I didn't make a note of who sent them.
I apologize.
>
> Rick Girard
I'll take credit for those plans. I made them in March of 2001 for my Firestar.
These are uncut water skis. I got them new at Play-it Again-Sports for $75. It's
important the neoprene tubing is used so the clamps don't slide down the tapered
gear leg. Use lacquer thinner on them before installing. Use safety wire
on the clamps. Use carriage bolts. Hex bolts will be too much drag on the underside
of the ski. Wooden skis must be waxed. Composite skis don't need wax.
Some composite skis have rods embedded along the sides like these, so be careful
when drilling (see pictures).
Ralph B
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Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Hi Ralph !
Thank you for the pictures too ! I thought they where your plans ,but I wasn't
sure ...When you set them up,do you keep the front up a ways?? That is do you
load the bungie to lift the front of the skis??
chris ambrose
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Ralph....do you think they need any kind of keel on the bottom??
chris ambrose
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
I have a set if water skiis that were disigned to be attached to the
stockgear leg brackets. There are cables that keep the skiis from falling
downless than 20-30 degrees and cables that keeps the skiis from riding up
more than 30 degrees. The are loops in th cable that with the addition of a
bungy will keep the skiies pointed up about 30 degrees in flight. The mount
is designed to ride about 1/2 inch higher than pavement with the tails
dragging. In deep snow the wheels drop down into the snow and the skii takes
over
I can send photos. I never fllew the plne in winter so ther is no need to
keep thm.
Make me a offer
Rick Neilsen
RedriveVW Powered MKIIIC
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Ralph B <rstar447@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > These are the plans I got from the forum. I didn't make a note of who
> sent them. I apologize.
> >
> > Rick Girard
>
>
> I'll take credit for those plans. I made them in March of 2001 for my
> Firestar. These are uncut water skis. I got them new at Play-it Again-Sports
> for $75. It's important the neoprene tubing is used so the clamps don't
> slide down the tapered gear leg. Use lacquer thinner on them before
> installing. Use safety wire on the clamps. Use carriage bolts. Hex bolts
> will be too much drag on the underside of the ski. Wooden skis must be
> waxed. Composite skis don't need wax. Some composite skis have rods embedded
> along the sides like these, so be careful when drilling (see pictures).
>
> Ralph B
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314834#314834
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Rick,
Can you send me pictures of yours? ces308@ldaco.com .
chris ambrose
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Ralph, Sorry about that, I'll rename the files so I don't forget. I found a
brand new pair of water skis on Craig's List and the owner was an airplane
guy who was willing to let them go for $45. After the new rudder and tail
wheel, they're next up on the project list.
Thanks again, Ralph.
Rick
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Ralph B <rstar447@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > These are the plans I got from the forum. I didn't make a note of who
> sent them. I apologize.
> >
> > Rick Girard
>
>
> I'll take credit for those plans. I made them in March of 2001 for my
> Firestar. These are uncut water skis. I got them new at Play-it Again-Sports
> for $75. It's important the neoprene tubing is used so the clamps don't
> slide down the tapered gear leg. Use lacquer thinner on them before
> installing. Use safety wire on the clamps. Use carriage bolts. Hex bolts
> will be too much drag on the underside of the ski. Wooden skis must be
> waxed. Composite skis don't need wax. Some composite skis have rods embedded
> along the sides like these, so be careful when drilling (see pictures).
>
> Ralph B
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314834#314834
>
>
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582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
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Subject: | Re: tail boom question |
after inspecting the pieces of the mark 3 extra kit I just purchased, It
looks like the previous owner fitted the rudder and stabilizer on one
end. then must of figured something wasn't right and took it off and
fitted to the other end. so there are rivet holes it the end of the tube
that attaches to the fuse. does any one see a problem with using the
tube? any structural issues, not to worried about cosmetics as it looks
like all the holes will be inside the cage. some have rivets put back in
the holes
how far are the holes from the end of the tube.... if they are within
1 inch of the end.... cut it off and drill new holes for the mounting
ring to the cage.
does he have the hols drilled for the H section???? any extra holes in
the area of the H section would be of greater concern to me.... i
dont remember drilling any holes in the boom tube till i was ready to
rig everything to the cage.
hope this helps
boyd young mkIII
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Hello all....
I have seen and even copied plans to covert water skis to snowskis and I
can not find them anywhere...I did find some in older post ,but could
not make them come up. If you have a set of plans,will you please post
them again ??
Thank you in advance !!
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru 154. hrs
N327CS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i am no expert here... but my 2 cents worth,,, i have never seen any
pair of skis, water or snow that were not longer in the front than they
are in the back,,,, usually by 10 inches or so..... that way, all
elce being equal.. if you were to land in soft snow... the shorter
back will sink into the snow deeper and keep the tips up. even more so
than the curve in the ski.
boyd young
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Rick
Just a suggestion -- but be SURE your skis can't flip down in
flight; you wouldn't like what would happen. And on the ground, just
about as bad.
In Alaska many pilots put in TWO steel cables (on each ski) to keep
the tips from dropping. And try to avoid any sharp edges which can
quickly trip the aircraft if any sideways motion occurs. Ever 'catch
an edge' when skiing? Same thing. Not pleasant
Good luck, should be great fun
Russ K
On Oct 5, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Ralph, Sorry about that, I'll rename the files so I don't forget. I
> found a brand new pair of water skis on Craig's List and the owner
> was an airplane guy who was willing to let them go for $45. After
> the new rudder and tail wheel, they're next up on the project list.
> Thanks again, Ralph.
>
> Rick
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Ralph B <rstar447@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> > These are the plans I got from the forum. I didn't make a note of
> who sent them. I apologize.
> >
> > Rick Girard
>
>
> I'll take credit for those plans. I made them in March of 2001 for
> my Firestar. These are uncut water skis. I got them new at Play-it
> Again-Sports for $75. It's important the neoprene tubing is used so
> the clamps don't slide down the tapered gear leg. Use lacquer
> thinner on them before installing. Use safety wire on the clamps.
> Use carriage bolts. Hex bolts will be too much drag on the
> underside of the ski. Wooden skis must be waxed. Composite skis
> don't need wax. Some composite skis have rods embedded along the
> sides like these, so be careful when drilling (see pictures).
>
> Ralph B
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314834#314834
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_ski__638.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fly_over__460.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/winter_flying_2__739.jpg
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> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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Subject: | HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
OK guys. been lurking here on this snow ski thingy. watching the lively
exchanges of hot info.
.can't stand it any more. I give up.
What is snow.?
Beauford
FF 076
Brandon, FL
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS
Hello all....
I have seen and even copied plans to covert water skis to snowskis and I can
not find them anywhere...I did find some in older post ,but could not make
them come up. If you have a set of plans,will you please post them again ??
Thank you in advance !!
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru 154. hrs
N327CS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
i am no expert here... but my 2 cents worth,,, i have never seen any pair
of skis, water or snow that were not longer in the front than they are in
the back,,,, usually by 10 inches or so..... that way, all elce being
equal.. if you were to land in soft snow... the shorter back will sink
into the snow deeper and keep the tips up. even more so than the curve in
the ski.
boyd young
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
Chris,
Be really really careful that your Skis can not twist up or down on its axle in
flight, this could cause a rolling moment that may be very difficult or impossible
to control. Its great to do mods to our experimental aircraft, but also
look at this as a license to kill yourself. Make sure you do a bunch of research
before making any significant modification to your plane. Aviation is very
unforgiving.
Mike
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have !!!
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI PLANS |
> Hi Ralph !
>
> Thank you for the pictures too ! I thought they where your plans ,but I wasn't
sure ...When you set them up,do you keep the front up a ways?? That is do you
load the bungie to lift the front of the skis??
>
> chris ambrose
Chris, the bungee cord must be strong to bring the tip of the ski up if snow weighs
it down. The angle must not be too high. I put a standard patio brick underneath
the ski tip and adjust the back limit cord so it is tight. These cords
or cables are very important as the ski could tip up too far and cause so much
drag that it would be hard to keep it in the air. If the ski pointed down on
landing, it would dig in and cause the aircraft to flip over. I have flown many
years with this setup, but it requires everything to be in place before flight.
The long skis are better in deep snow (more surface area to ride on). I have
taken off and landed in 3 feet of snow with these.
Ralph
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N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: tail boom question |
they are above the H-brace position, but definitely on top of the front of the
H-brace.
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MK3 Xtra
Newbie
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Subject: | Re: tail boom question |
date on camera is wrong, but pic with the H-brace on top is approx. where it will
sit inside the boom. the magic marker cross is aproxx. where the H=brace bolts
go thru. thanks AJ
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Subject: | Re: tail boom question |
AJ,
It looks like they might have been the holes for the forward attachment of
the vertical and horizontal stabilizers. Maybe the tail was out of plumb
so he swapped ends to try again?
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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In a message dated 10/5/2010 10:29:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
awcbsone@windstream.net writes:
they are above the H-brace position, but definitely on top of the front of
the H-brace.
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI CABLE BRACKET |
The attached pictures show a ski cable anchor design that has worked well f
or =0Ame.- It attaches at the bottom of the lift strut and cannot move up
or down like =0Agear leg clamps may. -It can be left on all year or take
n off with the skis.- =0AHope the pictures explain it well enough for any
one who is interested.=0A=0AJon L=0AMinnesota=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: HELP ! SNOW SKI CABLE BRACKET |
Jon,
Thanks ! Nice design ! Looks like it will work well !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
N327CS
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Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 10/04/10 |
> First of all, I make no claims to be an authority
Thanks for the response Tom. It was helpful.
> that job clearly belongs to several others
But.. but.. Tom! I always felt you... oh, never mind.
> "I" wouldn't upgrade a 5 rib Firestar with a four stroke.
I appreciate your opinion. But I wouldn't be able to judge this thing, I am
not a pilot but intend to begin lessons soon. My FS has a 503 DCDI which is
1/3 again the power of the 377. Heavier too of course. I have heard others
say that the 503 is too much power for the FS. I fell in love with the FS
when I saw one, with the 377, at Brian's Ranch (Mojave desert). It seemed to
fly just fine. I don't know anything about T.O. distance or rate of climb.
> Homer designed it only with the 377 Rotax in mind, and I would be cautious
to add any more weight on top
All of our measurements so far indicate that the Generac, w/o reduction,
will weigh in at about the same as the 377 (which my notes indicate is 84.5
lbs with exhaust and reduction).
> even more afraid of the vibrations that the Generac will create on the
entire airframe.
I have heard over and over how smooth the Generac is- even smoother than
many of the 2-strokes such as the 503 WITH isolation. One feller (on this
list?) said that bolted to the airframe with no vibration isolation it is no
worse than the 503 (IIRC).
> and the plane weighed 325 LBS
I think mine is lighter- weighed the airframe and engine separately, mine
should come in real close to 280-285.
> I guess what I'm saying is to consider a 377
What is your average fuel consumption?
> it has done well for me over 500 hours.
Any overhauls? Major repairs? I have read horror stories about premature
demise of expensive Rotaxes.
> I found that the 447 was OK, but did the same thing using more gas, and
felt overpowered, and could exceed my VNE of 90 in a blink.
What do you suppose my 503 will be like on there? I assume it will climb
like crazy.
> If you were local, I would let you try it for yourself.
Thanks- but I would probably kill myself and all of the bystanders, not
being a pilot. Well, actually I have flown Cessnas and Bobcats.
In all of this, I am not asserting anything. I invite your comments please.
I know almost nothing about all of this and do not pretend otherwise.
Thanks
GeoB
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