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1. 02:15 AM - Re: Fall colors (willuribe@aol.com)
2. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: Fall colors (Dana Hague)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Re: Fall colors (Beauford)
4. 07:21 AM - Re: Another wheel question (racerjerry)
5. 10:29 AM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (John Hauck)
6. 11:09 AM - Re: Fall colors (Thom Riddle)
7. 03:13 PM - Re: Another wheel question (Richard Pike)
8. 03:22 PM - Re: Another wheel question (HShack@aol.com)
9. 04:33 PM - Re: Another wheel question (Richard Girard)
10. 06:09 PM - Re: Another wheel question (Sky Biker Richardson)
11. 07:24 PM - wheels/side load (Nelson, Craig)
12. 08:06 PM - Re: Homebuilt airplanes (jerb)
13. 08:35 PM - Re: Homebuilt airplanes (Mike Welch)
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Hi Thom,
Enjoyed watching your video, It was nice to meet up with you last weekend
and check out your Slingshot but it is starting to get too cold for me he
re in Buffalo so I will be happy to be home tonight.
Took this pictures outside my hotel room
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II
El Paso, TX
but in working in Buffalo and in a week Loadstown, OH.
I got a little air time in my Slingshot yesterday after several weeks of
not
flying and had my new iPhone with me so I attempted a little video. I uplo
aded
it to YouTube directly from the iPhone... amazing. Below is a link to this
short
video of fall colors on Buffalo's south side. I was up quite high at about
2,400' msl and the ground here is about 700' so not much detail. As you wi
ll
note it was mid-day bumpy.
I apologize for the format. This is the first iPhone video I've taken and
did
not know that I could not change it to landscape after taking it in portra
it. It
is REALLY tall and skinny. Next time, I'll know. Also, to make the upload
faster, I restricted it to "medium" resolution which is about 1/3rd the si
ze of
the high resolution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvXn_wOowAU&feature=player_embedded
Thom, the video novice
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
=C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his
own facts.=C3=A2=82=AC=C2=9D
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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At 10:17 PM 10/14/2010, william sullivan wrote:
>Dana- Is the grass strip the one you are trying to get into? The paved
>one looks like Chester. Also- second part of the clip, where was the
>camera mounted?
Yes... it's long story but the short of it is that the zoning board,
rather than setting a precedent and crafting regulations permitting us to
fly there, decided that the existing regulations don't actually prohibit
it, so we're OK. The second one is indeed Chester.
The camera is clipped to my harness in the first part, and to the bracket
supporting the pitot tube in the second part.
-Dana
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Brother Hauck:
Almost a catastrophe during the filming of this... Lost the 9 year old
sacred fuzzy yaw string on downwind... guess the
spar in the scotch tape failed... tried to declare an emergency, but the
Icom battery was dead... Thought about
pulling the BRS, but remembered how much it cost to repack it... pushed on
and managed to get the machine back to
the airport.. t'was a near thing.
Tried to interest Brothers Haggerty and Alexander in organizing a search
party to go look for it, but they
demonstrated no interest... so much for friends...
strung out beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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George/Beauford/Gang:
A great display of airmanship.
I like your 173d patch.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Another wheel question |
This discussion brings back memories from the 60s when I was in the army. A friend
was relating story about when he and his brother built a go kart with an
old Briggs engine and wire spoke motorcycle wheels. Said it went great for awhile,
but the first time he tried to negotiate a hard corner, things came apart.
He opened his shirt to show the scars where spokes penetrated his chest.
Seems that most motorcycle wheels are not designed to take side loads. Motorcycles
lean into a turn and except for a trike, very little side force is encountered.
If you look at front view plans for WWI aircraft, you will see wire spoke
wheels with WIDE hubs that better withstand side loading.
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Subject: | Re: Another wheel question |
> Seems that most motorcycle wheels are not designed to take side loads.
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> Jerry King
I wouldn't bet my retirement check on the above statement.
There are tremendous side loads on any spoke wheel, whether it be auto,
motorcycle, mountain bike, or antique airplane. Heck, I put side loads on
my wheel chair.....
john h - Side loading my walking cane. ;-)
mkIII
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Will,
I enjoyed our short visit last Saturday. Your photo of the fall colors is better
than what I could see from the air a couple days ago. They finished the construction
in front of my T-hangar so I moved the SS and the Sonex from where you
saw them to my T-hangar.
I will now be doing maintenance on this Sonex just bought by a friend. It has essentially
the same engine as my Slingshot, Jabiru 2200 solid lifter engine. He
is now paying half my hangar rent and will let me fly his Sonex for doing the
maintenance. Good deal for both of us. Photo of both in my hangar attached.
If you Kolbers with Jabiru engines are interested, the Sonex has a Sensenich 54
x 48 prop and turns up almost 3200 rpm static. I've not yet flown the Sonex but
expect slow climb and fast cruise, just the opposite of Kolbs. Lucky me to
have access to both :-).
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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Subject: | Re: Another wheel question |
John Hauck wrote:
> Right off the top of my head, would be one way to get the mkIII in a decent
3 pt stance by raising the nose with tall skinny spoke wheels.
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, OR
>
Decent three point stance? For those of us with short wide wives, the MKIII with
it's short wide stance is ideal just like it is. If I raise it any, she'll have
to bring along a step stool!
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Another wheel question |
I may be wrong, but I think they would not support SIDE loads well.
In a message dated 10/14/2010 2:38:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
got me thinking about putting spoked motorcycle wheels on the main gear of
my Mk III.
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Subject: | Re: Another wheel question |
Perhaps you guys are too young to remember when the mark of a sports car was
a set of wire wheels. I know from experience that the wire wheels on the
Sunbeam Alpine I drove in high school handled side loads quite nicely. I'm
pretty sure the two cars pictured handled side loads just fine, too.
Besides that, what are you guys doing with your Kolbs? Drifting?
Rick
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:17 PM, <HShack@aol.com> wrote:
> I may be wrong, but I think they would not support SIDE loads well.
>
> In a message dated 10/14/2010 2:38:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
>
> got me thinking about putting spoked motorcycle wheels on the main gear of
> my Mk III.
>
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Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
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Subject: | Another wheel question |
I don't know about metal spoke wheels but I did use the narrow nylon type 2
6" bike wheels on my Ralley 2 B years ago to land in hay fields and check l
ive stock.. THE GOOD OLD DAYS!!!!
From: mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Another wheel question
>I suppose I've been watching "The Spirit of St. Louis" too much lately (we
don't have cable=2C satellite or antenna=2C just a DVD collection) >but lo
oking at the old Jennies in the movie got me thinking about putting spoked
motorcycle wheels on the main gear of my Mk III. >Anybody tried this? Have
pictures?
>Rick Girard
Rick=2C
It definitely would look different. I can't recall the specific makes=2C
but I remember years ago there a couple of ultralights that used
spoked wheels. (a Robertson B1RD comes to mind. ???)
Would putting spoked wheels on a Kolb really make it look like an aiplane
of yester-year? I'm not sure.
Here's a candidate I found on eBay. The rear wheels would be the ones th
at are spoked=3B
http://cgi.ebay.com/Merits-MP-series-wheelchair-wheels-tires-front-and-rear
-/150505635187?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ad5bd73
Mike Welch
MkIII
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Subject: | wheels/side load |
hi all I built a plane in the mid 80's and used 20 in bicycle wheels. had
them custom spoked to a mini bike hub with breaks and larger spokes. flew t
he heck out of this plane. it was a wing warp design and I had lots of x wi
nd landings
uncle craig
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Subject: | Re: Homebuilt airplanes |
Might be both. The thing is supposed to weigh 1763 lbs. Hope they
video the first flight or will that be the first plow. Wow!
jerb
At 08:17 PM 10/14/2010, you wrote:
> Was that a plow frame on the front, or a moose guard?
>
>do not archive
> Bill Sullivan
>
>--- On Thu, 10/14/10, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Kolb-List: Homebuilt airplanes
>To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>Date: Thursday, October 14, 2010, 8:04 PM
>
>Kolb guys,
>
> With things a little slow, I thought I'd pass on this story I
> just read on my latest
>online copy of the EAA Newsletter.
>
> This is one of the headline stories, and I realize it isn't
> directly Kolb related, however it
>IS about homebuilt airplanes, and a guy that's getting ready for his
>"first flight". I doubt this
>guy has ANY flight training, but it's just a guess.
>
> Evidently, he is in the last stages of finishing building his
> 'own design'. He did some internet
>research and figured that was good enough, I guess.
>
> Especially note the nosewheel as they roll the plane through the
> gate. It might be an indication
>of things to follow. As soon as those cinder blocks show up for him
>to use as his bench seat,
>he's 'good to go'.
>
><http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-10-13_scratchbuilt.asp>http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-10-13_scratchbuilt.asp
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>Mike Welch
>MkIII
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Subject: | Homebuilt airplanes |
Did you notice what appears to be negative incidence on the main wings? T
he ailerons look
like they were pounded into shape with a hammer.
I really=2C really doubt he has had any flight training=2C either!! I can'
t imagine this one is going to end
well. Too bad=2C too=2C 'cause he seems like a nice enough guy. Who knows
=2C maybe he'll pull it off and
fly the thing? Naw! Like Dennis Hopper said in Waterworld=3B "Only two c
hances of that happening...
no way & no how!!"
Mike
From: ulflyer@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Homebuilt airplanes
Might be both. The thing is supposed to weigh 1763 lbs. Hope they video t
he first flight or will that be the first plow. Wow!
jerb
At 08:17 PM 10/14/2010=2C you wrote:
Was that a plow frame on the front=2C or a moose guard?
do not archive
Bill Sullivan
--- On Thu=2C 10/14/10=2C Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Homebuilt airplanes
Kolb guys=2C
With things a little slow=2C I thought I'd pass on this story I just read
on my latest
online copy of the EAA Newsletter.
This is one of the headline stories=2C and I realize it isn't directly Ko
lb related=2C however it
IS about homebuilt airplanes=2C and a guy that's getting ready for his "fir
st flight". I doubt this
guy has ANY flight training=2C but it's just a guess.
Evidently=2C he is in the last stages of finishing building his 'own desi
gn'. He did some internet
research and figured that was good enough=2C I guess.
Especially note the nosewheel as they roll the plane through the gate. I
t might be an indication
of things to follow. As soon as those cinder blocks show up for him to use
as his bench seat=2C
he's 'good to go'.
http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-10-13_scratchbuilt.asp
Mike Welch
MkIII
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