---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/17/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 AM - Re: Niagara Falls (Jimmy Young) 2. 04:50 AM - Re: Another wheel question (Eugene Zimmerman) 3. 04:55 AM - Re: Niagara Falls (Thom Riddle) 4. 05:07 AM - Re: Niagara Falls (Thom Riddle) 5. 05:21 AM - Re: Another wheel question (Thom Riddle) 6. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (Dan Walter) 7. 05:34 AM - Re: Another wheel question (George Alexander) 8. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: Niagara Falls (John Hauck) 9. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (robert bean) 10. 06:50 AM - Re: Another wheel question (william sullivan) 11. 06:53 AM - Re: Niagara Falls (Thom Riddle) 12. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (russ kinne) 13. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (Eugene Zimmerman) 14. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Niagara Falls (John Hauck) 15. 12:46 PM - Re; Niagara Falls (william sullivan) 16. 01:40 PM - Re: Re: Another wheel question (dshepherd) 17. 06:30 PM - Re: Niagara Falls (Thom Riddle) 18. 07:50 PM - Re: Another wheel question (Dana Hague) 19. 09:30 PM - New kolber (taildragger21) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:42 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls From: "Jimmy Young" Thom, I really enjoyed the Niagra area videos. I've never been up there and did not realize it is so urban. Your Slingshot looks/sounds like it's running right on the money. I'm envious of a Kolb that cruises at 85-90 mph! I've been flying a lot lately and always take my camera, just have not seen the right photo-op lately. Your Slingshot looks like a lot of fun to fly. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316011#316011 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:50:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Guys, I'm curious. Has anyone else had trouble viewing the pictures in my e-mail post? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316015#316015 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls From: "Thom Riddle" Jimmy, The US/Canadian border in these parts is fairly densely populated. The busiest of all the US/CAN border crossings is the Peace Bridge which is shown in the the snapshot of Buffalo I posted. There are two other bridges along this border section, farther north. Getting away from the border a bit there is quite a bit of farm land near Lake Ontario since that area is very flat. South of Buffalo and parts east are more hilly and forested and much less densely populated. 1.5 hour drive south of Buffalo are several ski resorts, centered around Ellicottville. South of Rochester (Bob Bean territory) and further east still is the Finger Lake section. Some day I'll do some videos of part of the Finger Lakes. Western New York is a beautiful place with great weather (except winter) and one of the big reasons we moved here from the deep south after retiring. If you like downhill or x-country skiing, then the winter is good too. End of chamber of commerce pitch :-). The SS is a joy to fly. 85 mph turns out to be just about the best speed compromise for getting somewhere, fuel consumption and noise level. At 85 mph TAS the my Jabiru burns 3.75 gph. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316016#316016 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls From: "Thom Riddle" OOOps! I mis-spoke. The Peace Bridge did not show up in the Buffalo photo. Attached is a shot Buffalo and Niagara River with Peace Bridge shown, taken during a bit cooler weather, while flying with a friend in a rented C152. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316017#316017 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/blackrock_iced_155.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question From: "Thom Riddle" Gene, I get the daily digest email and your photos did not show up there. Of course they are visible in the Forum view. Don't know if they show up if you get individual emails from the list. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316019#316019 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:29 AM PST US From: "Dan Walter" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question Gene, They came through fine for me. As to which has less drag it is a good question for the Myth Busters. Dan Walter Palmyra PA Ercoupe do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question > > Guys, I'm curious. Has anyone else had trouble viewing the pictures in my > e-mail post? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:42 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question From: "George Alexander" Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Guys, I'm curious. Has anyone else had trouble viewing the pictures in my e-mail post? Got them OK Gene. -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://www.oh2fly.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316024#316024 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:16 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls Thom R/Gang: Your video clips and photos bring back a lot of memories. I had a chance to fly over Niagra Falls a couple times in 1988 and 1989, on the way back to Alabama, after flying up to the Flight Farm near Monterey, NY. Totally unfamiliar with the area and flying with a sectional and mag compass, I chose to cross the Niagra River, north of Buffalo, in my 447 powered Firestar, near the I-190 bridge, over the southern end of Grand Island, to the west shore of the Niagra on the Canadian side of the river. Then north to the Falls to take some photos as I flew several low circuits around the huge mist plume that reached pretty high into the air. Departing the Falls I flew back down the west side of the river, in Canada, then back across Grand Island. I climbed to get as much altitude as I could to get back across the Niagra River that is pretty wide on the east side. About halfway across I had an engine failure. My best bet was to glide back to Grand Island and land on the right of way for I-190. I changed my mind and decided to land on the outside of the fence off the Interstate too late, stalled the Firestar and wiped the left gear leg and gear leg socket off the airplane. I kind young man came to my aid, after the state troopers, sheriffs deputies, EMT, radio and television folks, left me standing knee high in weeds in 100+ plus weather. We hauled the Firestar to Niagra International Airport where another gentleman patched things back together to get me back to Alabama. Next year I did it right. Flew from the Flight Farm north through Dansville, NY, where I landed and taxied right up to the parking lot of McDonalds for breakfast. Then north to the south shore of Lake Ontario, west to the mouth of the Niagra River, south to the southern end of Grand Island and the same route up the Canadian side to the Falls. This time, sitting on the edge of my seat, I made it back across the Niagra River, up to Sault St Marie, Canada, and south into Oshkosh, for the flyin, and finally back to Alabama, with the same 447. The engine failure in 1988 was caused by a Bosch Fine Wire BR8EV spark plug electrode seperating and grounding out the plug. So much for expensive spark plugs. johh h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question From: robert bean they came through fine for me BB do not archive On 17, Oct 2010, at 7:46 AM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > > Guys, I'm curious. Has anyone else had trouble viewing the pictures in my e-mail post? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316015#316015 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:03 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question - Gene- I got them just fine. - --- do not archive ------------------------- -------------- Bill Sullivan ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls From: "Thom Riddle" John, I recall you telling us about that unscheduled landing on Grand Island before. There are lots of very tall towers on Grand Island now but still a couple private airstrips on the island. Too bad they were not in gliding distance when your plug failed. For many years now, there has been a restricted area directly over the falls but there is a way to fly over them legally in a right hand oval pattern strictly defined at an altitude of 3,500' or higher. BUT, I forgot to take with me (or program my radio) with the self-announce frequency required to be used to fly the falls circuit legally. Commercial sight-seeing helicopter operators fly over the falls by permit at much lower altitudes. I'm sure it seemed like 100+ temp because it does get up into the 90s for a few days, generally in July, but according to the NWS there has never been a 100F high at either KIAG or KBUF. I know that seems like nit-picking because it is, but I am so relieved that the summers here are so pleasant compared to my decades of hot and humid summers in Georgia, I just had to point it out. FWIW, the average monthly high in July (hottest month) is 81F, but has been going up a bit in recent years, like most everywhere. John, you have seen more of the USA down low by air than probably anyone else I know of. Each part of the country is beautiful in its own way, I suppose, but we all want to see where other Kolbers fly. The new video technologies make that possible for everyone, even for flyers that never fly more than 1/2 tank away from home base. Not the same as actually doing it, but good enough for many of us. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316039#316039 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:52 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question what pictures? On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:46 AM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > > Guys, I'm curious. Has anyone else had trouble viewing the > pictures in my e-mail post? > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316015#316015 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:48:23 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question Ok Bob thanx, I'm assuming It must just be a particular e-mail client problem then. I suppose some clients have good reasons to be paranoid about malicious attachments because of their particular systemic vulnerabilities. :-) Videos for Hello I'm a Mac ads On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:19 AM, robert bean wrote: > > they came through fine for me ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:00:55 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls > I'm sure it seemed like 100+ temp because it does get up into the 90s for a few days, generally in July, but according to the NWS there has never been a 100F high at either KIAG or KBUF. I know that seems like nit-picking because it is, but I am so relieved that the summers here are so pleasant compared to my decades of hot and humid summers in Georgia, I just had to point it out. FWIW, the average monthly high in July (hottest month) is 81F, but has been going up a bit in recent years, like most everywhere. > > -------- > Thom Riddle Thom R/Gang: 1988 there was no restrictions flying over Niagara Falls. Then next year, 1989 the restriction was in place. I can not remember the altitudes after 21 years, but the rotary wing aircraft were low and fixed wing above them. You are absolutely right. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I never took the time to check the temps that afternoon. According to weather history on Weather Underground, 25 June 1988, Grand Island, NY, had a high of 93F. Must have been the high humidity and the unusually cool weather we had in the Watkins Glenn area that made it feel like 100+ standing in that weed field with a broken airplane several thousand miles from home, alone.... Many of my stories will be told many times on this List. We get new folks often. I feel some of them would like to hear of ultralight flights many years ago. For those that have heard the stories before, please delete and drive on. My apologies. Back in the old days I had barely enough money to fly much less buy expensive photographic equipment. We were in the Stone Age compared to today's technology. john h mkIII Rock House, OR ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:46:29 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re; Niagara Falls - John- More stories, please!- I never heard that one before. - do not archive ------------------------- - ------------------------- ------------- Bill Sullivan - - ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:37 PM PST US From: "dshepherd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another wheel question ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:28 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Niagara Falls From: "Thom Riddle" John, No apologies necessary. I like hearing them again, and as you noted there are new Kolbers joining the group regularly. You added some useful information this time that you had left out the last time. More specifically the type of plug that caused the unscheduled landing. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316104#316104 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:09 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Another wheel question At 10:11 AM 10/16/2010, K I wrote: >This is not my plane. It was one I considered purchasing at one time. This >plane has never been in the air according to the seller. I think it has >been disassembled and sold for parts by now. Never the less, here are the >photos you asked for. That actually makes for a rather attractive airplane. Looks like much lower angle on the landing gear legs, to offset the increase in height from the larger wheels. One drawback of larger wheels is that the brakes have to work harder, since the larger wheels put more torque on the brakes. -Dana -- "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -Antoine de Saint-Exup,ry ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New kolber From: "taildragger21" Hey guys.. I am seriously looking at a firefly ( A famous one I might ad) and have some questions.. I want to go about this the right way.. Here is my experience.. 10 logged hrs. solo at 7.5 hrs in a c172.. And 30-40 hrs in quicksilver sport 1 and sport 2..Recently put 1 hour in a citabria. I haven't flown in 7 years as I had to sell my plane and buy a home and get married.. I really want to fly again and have fell in love with a kolb firefly I looked at today. Problem is I am uneasy about jumping in a type plane I have no experience with w/o dual time.. I live a couple hrs away from the kolb facility in london ky and got some demo air time in the factory mk3 extra several years ago and loved it. No ground time in it though..I called them the other day and they no longer do dual time.. NOBODY does dual in a kolb nor less anything other than c150's and c172's anywhere near. I really dont want to jump back in a quick eather as they will be nothing like a kolb I'm sure.. Anybody close by with a kolb I could do a few hrs with?? OR do I just grow some balls and go for it!!!?? Thanks so much, chad. 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