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1. 07:22 AM - SPOT Working (henry.voris)
2. 12:59 PM - Re: Another video.. (ces308)
3. 02:52 PM - Re: Another video.. (Thom Riddle)
4. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Another video.. (Mike Welch)
5. 03:49 PM - Re: Another video.. (Thom Riddle)
6. 04:25 PM - Re: Another video.. (ces308)
7. 04:34 PM - Re: Another video (robert bean)
8. 04:43 PM - Re: Another video.. (ces308)
9. 04:47 PM - Re: Another video (ces308)
10. 04:59 PM - Re: Another video.. (Thom Riddle)
11. 08:11 PM - Re: Another video.. (Richard Pike)
12. 09:46 PM - Re: SPOT Working (Roger Lee)
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22oct10
Tuxtla Gutierrez, Mexico
Fellow Kolbsters,
There has been some discussion on the value of using the SPOT tracking system...
Although this was not a Kolb incident someone on the list may find it of use.
I'll be brief...
Today was the first day of La Carrerra Panamerica (Google it... The Porche Carrera
and Ferrari Mexico are named for this seven day road race.). I am on the pit
crew for a 53 Lincoln. Upon reaching our noon check point we received word
that our car had left the road in the mountains. Our drivers are equipped with
the SPOT so we called our HQ in California, they called SPOT and a got Longitude
and Latitude for the car. I pumped that data into the GPS and although it
took more than an hour to drive to the point, it took us it right to them. The
car was barely visible from the road and it is questionable that we would have
found it without the SPOT, GPS combination.
Fortunately at the time of the crash the emergency helicopter was overhead. So
by the time we reached the wreck they had cut our driver out of the car and evacuated
him to the hospital in Tuxtla (unconscious with a broken leg, bruised
and cut).
I have included Before and After photos...
Worth what you paid for it... and I hope your mileage will differ...
Aloha
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Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Thom,
The engine is level with the factory engine mount....hopefully a picture is worth
a thousand words...let me know if there is anything else I can help you with,....
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Chris,
Thanks for the photos which shows the engine with its thrust line parallel to the
ground. It is apparent from the photos that if you extend the centerline of
the engine forward and the bottom of the wing forward that these two would intersect.
I'm looking for this angle between them. On my SS, this angle DIVERGES
instead of coming together and there is lies the problem, I believe. I'd like
to get it close to right on the first attempt to adjust this angle.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
> On my SS=2C this angle DIVERGES instead of coming together > --------
> Thom Riddle
Thom=2C
As an interested reader to your description=2C I can't picture that your
wing's incidence
and the engine's thrustline diverge.
This just seems very difficult to comprehend.
Can you share a picture (similar to what Chris did)? I am interested in
knowing more
about this subject.
Thanks=2C
Mike Welch
MkIIICX
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Mike,
The only photo I have of the SS directly from the side is a relatively low res
photo, which I've attached. It does not show very well but here is the measured
data.
With the airplane sitting in 3-point stance....
Tail Boom = 5 degrees (front higher)
Horizontal Stabilizer = 5 deg. (front higher) parallel to boom
Wing Bottom = 12 degrees
Engine Thrust Line = 15.5 degrees
Therefore, relative to the Horizontal Stabilizer....
Wing Bottom has a 7 degrees incidence (12 - 5)
Engine Thrust line has 10.5 degrees incidence (15.5 -5)
The engine thrust line points higher (in front) than the wing bottom by 3.5 degrees!
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Thom,
I see what you mean ...your thrust line and wing incidence are about parallel if
you draw a line down the center of the crank and the bottom of the wing...
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | re: Another video |
this might show the angle:
note I carry my own windsock attached to the top of what Thom calls my
"refrigerator"
BB
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Thom....It's like your engine is fighting the airframe....Like they say a aft CG
makes the airplane fly faster,cause you're not trying to hold the nose up...
and yours is trying to push the nose over...thats what it sounds like your's
is doing....??? is that what you're thinking??
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: Another video |
Nice picture ! you keep any cold ones in there ?? LOL Nice field too !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Although it may look parallel, the angle actually diverges by 3.5 degrees, which
is hard to see. I don't claim to understand what this is doing aerodynamically,
but intuitively it seems reasonable for the thrust line to be parallel to
the relative wind. If the AOA of the wing at cruise is about six degrees or thereabouts,
then the thrust line should be about six degrees less than the bottom
of the wing, but in my case it is 3.5 degrees greater. In other words it is
about 9.5 degrees too high! At least that is how I see it.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| Subject: | Re: Another video.. |
Thom, if I were you, I would start stacking washers under the rear motor mounts
and then go and test fly...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: SPOT Working |
The Spot 2 Tracker is used by many fliers. They can be used for hunting, hiking,
quad riding, motorcycles and autos. Many of us on the other aircraft forums
use this and it works great. I would highly recommend one if you fly.
Here is a sample of a Spot track from Phoenix, AZ to Mexico.
A great safety idea. You should look into it.
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?&glId=0SVfqeSZBl3yVkQ7mSqU5SLTyL2kyct1m
I am a dealer and sell to pilots at a very special price. You need to call me to
get the price because I can't post it. I don't make any money and do this one
service as a safety item for pilots.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
520-574-1080
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