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0. 12:09 AM - Please Support The Lists... (Matt Dralle)
1. 02:04 AM - Re: Re: Mark III Data Plate (Pat Ladd)
2. 07:22 AM - Re: MK III for sale (Jason Omelchuck)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: Prop tests finally over (Richard Neilsen)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: Prop tests finally over (william sullivan)
5. 10:04 AM - Re: Prop tests finally over (Richard Girard)
6. 10:42 AM - Re: Re: Mark III Data Plate (Richard Girard)
7. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: Mark III Data Plate (Pat Ladd)
8. 11:32 AM - Re: Yamaha powered MKIII for sale (Jason Omelchuck)
9. 12:25 PM - Feed a Vet (Fredrick Kerfoot)
10. 02:40 PM - Re: Feed a Vet (russ kinne)
11. 03:57 PM - Re: Feed a Vet (Richard Girard)
12. 04:16 PM - Re: Feed a Vet (Sky Biker Richardson)
13. 05:36 PM - Re: Feed a Vet (robert bean)
14. 06:12 PM - Re: Feed a Vet (Richard Girard)
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III Data Plate |
Hi Richard,
interesting. I don`t think that I have ever seen a written spec. about
the plate placement. Main thing is that it is likely to survive a crash.
What is on the plate is specified of course.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: MK III for sale |
On Barnstormers there are many Kolbs at great deals. Go to "Browse" for aircraft
then select experimental and go to Kolb. There are 3 912S powered extras for
around 30K. I just sold my Yamaha powered MKIII for about half of that. Now
is a hard time to sell an airplane so be prepared for it to take many months
and the price you get might sting a little.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318977#318977
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| Subject: | Re: Prop tests finally over |
Rick
I'm sure you know but to do a true test between a two blade and a three
blade prop you need to change the length of the props. If you have room you
need to fit a longer blade to the two blade prop. A correctly sized two
blade prop will out perform a tree blade prop. A three blade prop is better
if you don't have room to swing a longer two blade prop. A three blade prop
is normally much smoother and quieter than a two blade prop especially on a
pusher.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>wrote:
> After gradually creeping up on the right pitch setting for the 4 blade
> reduced to 2 Power Fin and a day without screaming winds I was able to do as
> direct a comparison as I was capable of this afternoon. When all was said
> and done, the completely wrong 3 blade Warp Drive won by 3 mph. About the
> only thing that came out of the test was that I get less pitch change with
> power changes now that I've added another 1/4" to the rear motor mounts for
> a total of 1/2". I suppose that's worth something.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Kolb Mk IIIC
> 582 Gray head
> 4.00 C gearbox
> 3 blade WD
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be
> unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
> - G.K. Chesterton
>
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop tests finally over |
- Can someone explain why I usually see the three blade on a Firefly, and
a two blade on a Firestar- both with the 447?
-------------------------
---------------- Bill Sullivan
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---------------- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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---------------- FS 447, WD 2 blade
--- On Thu, 11/11/10, Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
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I'm sure you know-but to do a true test between a two blade and a three b
lade prop you need to change the length of the props. If you have room you
need to fit a longer blade to the two blade prop. A correctly sized two bla
de prop will out perform a tree blade prop.-A three blade prop is better
if you don't have room to swing a longer two blade prop. A three blade prop
is normally much smoother and quieter than a two blade prop especially on
a pusher.-
-
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| Subject: | Re: Prop tests finally over |
Richard, The Power Fin was an inch longer. Not enough to make a real
difference, I know, but some. I was hoping for parity between the two and
was a bit surprised that the 2 blade did not at least equal the 3.
What truly amazed me was the initial test when the 4 blade was mounted on
the 582 and the engine couldn't pull it. Makes me really wonder what a
properly set up HKS could do on the Mk III. I have the coming winter to
decide about that.
Rick
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:44 AM, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net
> wrote:
> Can someone explain why I usually see the three blade on a Firefly, and a
> two blade on a Firestar- both with the 447?
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks, Ct.
> FS 447, WD 2 blade
>
> --- On *Thu, 11/11/10, Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> I'm sure you know but to do a true test between a two blade and a three
> blade prop you need to change the length of the props. If you have room you
> need to fit a longer blade to the two blade prop. A correctly sized two
> blade prop will out perform a tree blade prop. A three blade prop is better
> if you don't have room to swing a longer two blade prop. A three blade prop
> is normally much smoother and quieter than a two blade prop especially on a
> pusher.
>
>
> **
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III Data Plate |
Pat, I don't know about the validity of the story, but what I've been told
by several, including the FAA inspector who issued the Airworthiness
Certificate for my Firestar, that this data plate was mandated following a
request from the DEA. So many planes were being stolen in Florida and
surrounding states to be used for drug running and then crashed in the
Everglades that they needed a way to determine ownership of the aircraft
without having to bring in heavy equipment to dig it out. Hence the request
that the plate be put behind the rear most loading door or near the tail.
Rick
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> interesting. I don`t think that I have ever seen a written spec. about the
> plate placement. Main thing is that it is likely to survive a crash. What is
> on the plate is specified of course.
>
> Pat
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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| Subject: | Re: Mark III Data Plate |
I don't know about the validity >>
Interesting. I don`t think there are any records here of smuggling by
ulralight from France. More likely to be Pakistanis, Indians or other
alien.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Yamaha powered MKIII for sale |
I am happy to say that the Yamaha powered Kolb was sold to a fellow in Southern
California. Thanks to everyone who passed the word
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=319030#319030
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All you Veterans and Military=2C
Remember=2C Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a free m
eal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also Golden Corral
www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet to military and vets on
Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks if you asked me.
FredK
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Good sentiment but not Kolb-related
On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
>
>
> All you Veterans and Military,
> Remember, Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a
> free meal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also
> Golden Corral www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet
> to military and vets on Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks
> if you asked me.
>
> FredK
>
>
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:36 PM, russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> wrote:
> Good sentiment but not Kolb-related
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
>
>
> All you Veterans and Military,
> Remember, Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a free
> meal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also Golden Corral
> www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet to military and vets
> on Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks if you asked me.
>
> FredK
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com*
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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I wonder how many of the Kolb fliers are former Vets and as a result starte
d flying because of their military back round. I as a former Marine that ta
kes offense that a note to us. offenses some. There has been a lot wor
se off Kold threaded. It does make me wonder who I would want as a wing ma
n=2C I for one still believe in the Brotherhood.
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Feed a Vet
From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
On Thu=2C Nov 11=2C 2010 at 4:36 PM=2C russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> wrote
:
Good sentiment but not Kolb-related
On Nov 11=2C 2010=2C at 3:21 PM=2C Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
All you Veterans and Military=2C
Remember=2C Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a free m
eal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also Golden Corral
www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet to military and vets on
Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks if you asked me.
FredK
href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con
tribution
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.
com/Navigator?Kolb-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
--
Zulu DeltaKolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head4.00 C gearbox3 blade WDThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right=3B but it is bigotry to be una
ble to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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Rick your message was absent.
all: regarding the free meal thingy.... if you are a hermit like me,
don't bother. Out of curiosity I dropped in to one of the
chain restaurants offering the freebie tonight. They don't owe me
anything but what the hey. Chili's. Packed.
Mostly youth and obese regulars. I was served a beer at the bar and
waited, and waited some more. Tucked
a few bucks under my mostly unconsumed beer and walked out. I hate
crowds.
BB
On 11, Nov 2010, at 6:54 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:36 PM, russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> wrote:
> Good sentiment but not Kolb-related
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> All you Veterans and Military,
>> Remember, Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a
free meal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also
Golden Corral www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet to
military and vets on Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks if you
asked me.
>>
>> FredK
>>
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co
ntribution
>>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics
.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Kolb Mk IIIC
> 582 Gray head
> 4.00 C gearbox
> 3 blade WD
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be
unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
> - G.K. Chesterton
>
>
>
>
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Sorry about that, I hit "reply" instead of "back to inbox".
Rick
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:34 PM, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Rick your message was absent.
> all: regarding the free meal thingy.... if you are a hermit like me, don't
> bother. Out of curiosity I dropped in to one of the
> chain restaurants offering the freebie tonight. They don't owe me anything
> but what the hey. Chili's. Packed.
> Mostly youth and obese regulars. I was served a beer at the bar and
> waited, and waited some more. Tucked
> a few bucks under my mostly unconsumed beer and walked out. I hate crowds.
> BB
>
> On 11, Nov 2010, at 6:54 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:36 PM, russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Good sentiment but not Kolb-related
>>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> All you Veterans and Military,
>> Remember, Applebee's Restaurants www.applebees.com is offering a free
>> meal to all military members and veterans this evening. Also Golden Corral
>> www.goldencorral.net will be offering a free buffet to military and vets
>> on Monday the 15th. Darn nice of these folks if you asked me.
>>
>> FredK
>>
>> *
>>
>> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com
>> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com
>> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com*
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Kolb Mk IIIC
> 582 Gray head
> 4.00 C gearbox
> 3 blade WD
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be
> unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
> - G.K. Chesterton
>
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.aeroelectric.com/">www.aeroelectric.com
> href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/">www.buildersbooks.com
> href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com/">www.homebuilthelp.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com*
>
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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