Kolb-List Digest Archive

Wed 11/24/10


Total Messages Posted: 34



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     0. 12:22 AM - Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 05:47 AM - Re: heading to Geneseo (Thom Riddle)
     2. 06:43 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II (Pat Ladd)
     3. 07:14 AM - cowl mold (Nelson, Craig)
     4. 07:39 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II (william sullivan)
     5. 07:39 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly (John Hauck)
     6. 08:03 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly (frank goodnight)
     7. 08:25 AM - Kolb Relocating (John Hauck)
     8. 08:34 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly (Vic)
     9. 08:40 AM - Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II (Richard Girard)
    10. 08:52 AM - Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (Dennis Thate)
    11. 08:57 AM - Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
    12. 09:13 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Perry Rhoads)
    13. 09:36 AM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (Richard Girard)
    14. 09:36 AM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (Richard Girard)
    15. 09:51 AM - novice Kolb pilot (Lanny Fetterman)
    16. 11:25 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (racerjerry)
    17. 12:31 PM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
    18. 12:39 PM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (The Kuffels)
    19. 01:02 PM -  (Lanny Fetterman)
    20. 01:06 PM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (John Hauck)
    21. 01:17 PM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (Dennis Thate)
    22. 01:18 PM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
    23. 01:24 PM - Re:  (John Hauck)
    24. 02:16 PM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (chris davis)
    25. 02:31 PM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
    26. 03:25 PM - Re: Latex paint (gliderx5@comcast.net)
    27. 03:35 PM - Re: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Richard Girard)
    28. 03:56 PM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Jerry Deckard)
    29. 04:36 PM - Kolb Related In That It Flys (Jack B. Hart)
    30. 04:58 PM - Next time you camp in your Kolb (Dennis Thate)
    31. 05:01 PM - Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. (zeprep251@aol.com)
    32. 10:36 PM - Zinc Chromate? (George Bearden)
    33. 10:55 PM - Kolb FS1 fuse floor (George Bearden)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:25 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
    There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator


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    Time: 05:47:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: heading to Geneseo
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Bob, That self-portrait is a good likeness of you. You missed your calling as an arteeeest! do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320790#320790


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    Time: 06:43:08 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II
    My beer, as a matter of fact, was the root variety.>> That jogged a memory. On my first visit to the US, to see Apollo 17 launch, root beer was available from a dispenser at my Cocoa Beach hotel. Almost everything I knew about America had been gleaned from reading the Saturday Evening Post, particularly the advertisements,cartoons etc, Shlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous` I remember 60 years later. Also ads. for gleaming great cars with tail fins. They had engines of incredible horsepower,were bigger than any truck then in the UK and, I discovered later, steered like the Nimitz. they also used more fuel per mile than my car did in a month. But Root Beer! That was THE American drink, next to Coke, I learned. It was therefore with glee that I put my coin in the slot and obtained a can of root beer. Ir was one of the great disappointments of my life. Never had I encountered such a horrible tasting drink. I passed the can to my brother who took a swig and was almost sick on the spot. We looked at each other in disbelief and solemnly poured the remainder down the lavatory. Yuck! Cheers Pat


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    Time: 07:14:22 AM PST US
    From: "Nelson, Craig" <craig.nelson@heraeus.com>
    Subject: cowl mold
    Gang Im selling my cowl mold. Anyone interested make an offer Uncle craig [cid:image003.jpg@01CB8BBF.56AAA730] Craig Nelson AAS CDT Technical Manager HERAEUS 300 Heraeus Way South Bend IN 86614 USA Direct 623-764-0680 craig.nelson@heraeus.com www.heraeus-kulzer-us.com


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    Time: 07:39:45 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II
    - Pat, if you think root beer is bad then you have never tried coffee mil k (available only in Rhode Island). - ------------------------- ------------------ Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------ Windsor Locks, Ct. do not archive --- On Wed, 11/24/10, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: From: Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III wings on a Mark II My beer, as a matter of fact, was the root variety.>> - That jogged a memory. On my first visit to the US, to see Apollo 17 launch, root beer was available from a dispenser at my Cocoa Beach hotel.- Almos t everything I knew about America had been gleaned from reading the Saturda y Evening Post, particularly the advertisements,cartoons etc, Shlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous` I remember 60 years later. Als o ads. for gleaming great cars with tail fins. They had engines of incredib le horsepower,were bigger than any truck then in the UK and, I discovered l ater, steered like the-Nimitz.- they also used more fuel per mile than my car did in a month. But Root Beer! That was THE American drink, next to Coke,-I learned. It w as therefore with glee that I put my coin in the slot and obtained a can of root beer. Ir was one of the great disappointments of my life. Never had I encountered such a--horrible tasting drink. I passed the can to my bro ther who took a swig and was almost sick on the spot. We looked at each oth er in disbelief and solemnly poured the remainder down the lavatory. Yuck! - Cheers - Pat


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    Time: 07:39:51 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly
    ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Ladd Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III wings on a Mark II My beer, as a matter of fact, was the root variety.>> That jogged a memory. On my first visit to the US, to see Apollo 17 launch, root beer was available from a dispenser at my Cocoa Beach hotel. Almost everything I knew about America had been gleaned from reading the Saturday Evening Post, particularly the advertisements,cartoons etc, Shlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous` I remember 60 years later. Also ads. for gleaming great cars with tail fins. They had engines of incredible horsepower,were bigger than any truck then in the UK and, I discovered later, steered like the Nimitz. they also used more fuel per mile than my car did in a month. But Root Beer! That was THE American drink, next to Coke, I learned. It was therefore with glee that I put my coin in the slot and obtained a can of root beer. Ir was one of the great disappointments of my life. Never had I encountered such a horrible tasting drink. I passed the can to my brother who took a swig and was almost sick on the spot. We looked at each other in disbelief and solemnly poured the remainder down the lavatory. Yuck! Cheers Pat Kolb Friends: Seems the Kolb Aircraft Builders and Flyers List has turned to BS, with little or no resemblence to its intended purpose. The individual members of this List are responsible for the quality of the List. It will be what we make it. I haven't flown my Kolb in more than 6 months. Have not seen the MKIII in more than 3 months. Hopefully, I can get over to the airstrip today to see if I still have an airplane. I got my my medical renewed while I was still in physical therapy, back in August, but did not have time to get my BFR prior to departing West. Got a lot of catching up to do. Been walking without a cane for two weeks now. Life is getting much better. Maybe I will be able to get my MKIII out of the hanger by myself. If not, I can call of friends to come help me push. I think I can get in and out of it by myself. I know I can operate the rudder pedals with no problem. Flying should be a piece of cake. Happy Thanksgiving everyone! john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 08:03:39 AM PST US
    From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly
    Hello all,=0A=0AJohn thanks for bringing the recent content of the list to everyones atten. Seem =0Alike its all about=0Awho can think of the --cutest -- one liners , and verry little meat and potatos =0Aabout Kokbs and flying them.=0A- Am planing to move to north Arkansas in Dec--Fayettville or Mo untin Home most =0Alikely. If there are any=0AKolbers in that area please E mail me with contact info. Would like to get =0Aaquainted. Thanks.=0A=0AFr ank Goodnight=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John H auck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, Nove mber 24, 2010 9:37:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III wings on a Mark " <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Pat Ladd=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 8:4 0 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III wings on a Mark II=0A=0A=0AMy beer, as a matter of fact, was the root variety.>>=0A=0AThat jogged a memory. On my first visit to the US, to see Apollo 17 launch, =0Aroot beer was availa ble from a dispenser at my Cocoa Beach hotel.- Almost =0Aeverything I kne w about America had been gleaned from reading the Saturday =0AEvening Post, particularly the advertisements,cartoons etc,=0AShlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous` I remember 60 years later. Also =0Aads. for gleaming gre at cars with tail fins. They had engines of incredible =0Ahorsepower,were b igger than any truck then in the UK and, I discovered =0Alater, steered lik e the Nimitz.- they also used more fuel per mile than my =0Acar did in a month.=0ABut Root Beer! That was THE American drink, next to Coke, I learne d. It was =0Atherefore with glee that I put my coin in the slot and obtaine d a can of =0Aroot beer. Ir was one of the great disappointments of my life . Never had I =0Aencountered such a- horrible tasting drink. I passed the can to my brother =0Awho took a swig and was almost sick on the spot. We l ooked at each other in =0Adisbelief and solemnly poured the remainder down the lavatory. Yuck!=0A=0ACheers=0A=0APat=0A=0A=0AKolb Friends:=0A=0ASeems t he Kolb Aircraft Builders and Flyers List has turned to BS, with =0Alittle or no resemblence to its intended purpose.=0A=0AThe individual members of t his List are responsible for the quality of the =0AList.- It will be what we make it.=0A=0AI haven't flown my Kolb in more than 6 months.- Have no t seen the MKIII in =0Amore than 3 months.- Hopefully, I can get over to the airstrip today to see =0Aif I still have an airplane.- I got my my me dical renewed while I was still =0Ain physical therapy, back in August, but did not have time to get my BFR =0Aprior to departing West.- Got a lot o f catching up to do.=0A=0ABeen walking without a cane for two weeks now.- Life is getting much better. =0AMaybe I will be able to get my MKIII out o f the hanger by myself.- If not, I =0Acan call of friends to come help me push.- I think I can get in and out of =0Ait by myself.- I know I can operate the rudder pedals with no problem. =0AFlying should be a piece of c ake.=0A=0AHappy Thanksgiving everyone!=0A=0Ajohn h=0AmkIII=0Ahauck's holler ======================


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    Time: 08:25:41 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Kolb Relocating
    Am planing to move to north Arkansas in Dec--Fayettville or Mountin Home most likely. If there are any Kolbers in that area please E mail me with contact info. Would like to get aquainted. Thanks. Frank Goodnight Frank G/Gang: Recommend looking into a little town called Mountain View, AR. I usually land their for fuel on my return flights from Oregon. Seems to be a nice little airport with a lot of really friendly builders and flyers there. Mountain View is located 36 air miles south of Mountain Home. john h mkIII Titus, AL


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    Time: 08:34:13 AM PST US
    From: "Vic" <vicsv@myfairpoint.net>
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II/Home And Ready To Fly
    Better move over John. I now have 14 lifetime solo landings. If you stay out of your Kolb I figure in 2 or 300 years I'll have as much time as you! Thanks for the holiday wishes. Right back at ya! Just one problem, Thanksgiving isn't quite here yet and I've already gained a gallon of fuel! Vic Extra Maine


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    Time: 08:40:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mark III wings on a Mark II
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Ah, Pat, that hurts. One of the great memories of my life is going to the A & W drive in to get a gallon of their root beer to take home. My Grandpa and I had mugs that we kept in the freezer just for a frosted drink on a hot afternoon. Nothing finer. Fifty years later it's still one of my favorite treats even though he's not here to share it with me. Rick Girard On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: > My beer, as a matter of fact, was the root variety.>> > > That jogged a memory. On my first visit to the US, to see Apollo 17 launch, > root beer was available from a dispenser at my Cocoa Beach hotel. Almost > everything I knew about America had been gleaned from reading the Saturday > Evening Post, particularly the advertisements,cartoons etc, > Shlitz, the beer that made Milwaukee famous` I remember 60 years later. > Also ads. for gleaming great cars with tail fins. They had engines of > incredible horsepower,were bigger than any truck then in the UK and, I > discovered later, steered like the Nimitz. they also used more fuel per > mile than my car did in a month. > But Root Beer! That was THE American drink, next to Coke, I learned. It was > therefore with glee that I put my coin in the slot and obtained a can of > root beer. Ir was one of the great disappointments of my life. Never had I > encountered such a horrible tasting drink. I passed the can to my brother > who took a swig and was almost sick on the spot. We looked at each other in > disbelief and solemnly poured the remainder down the lavatory. Yuck! > > Cheers > > Pat > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 08:52:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter like weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring and then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions any on a 6000' runway before I take my plane home to my grass strip. I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar pilots with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this airplane safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320827#320827 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_eis_314.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_181.jpg


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    Time: 08:57:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter like weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring and then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions on a 6000' runway before I take my plane home to my grass strip. I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar pilots with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this airplane safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320828#320828


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    Time: 09:13:42 AM PST US
    From: "Perry Rhoads" <prhoads61@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    You'll hear many support the idea, but crow hopping has been the demise of many over the years. Especially new tail wheel pilots in new to them airplanes. These airplanes have very little inertia and speed bleeds quickly. Crow hopping on hard surface with a new Kolb guy will probably get something bent. Perry Rhoads 503 Firestar N2407A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Novice Kolb Pilot > > I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter like > weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private > Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's > 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring and > then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions on a 6000' runway before > I take my plane home to my grass strip. > > I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar > pilots with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this > airplane safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to > the point comments only ,Please. > > -------- > &quot;?oEveryone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own > facts.? Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320828#320828 > > >


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    Time: 09:36:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Dennis, Just one comment, pithy and to the point as requested. Crow hopping is a bad idea, IMHO. You have enough to do on takeoff without adding making an instant transition to landing. How many crow hops have you done in the G A aircraft you've flown? If you're like me, the answer is zero. You say you want to know how to fly your Firestar safely, so fly it. Take off, go aroun d the pattern, set up for landing, land. You won't have any of the muscle memory and sight picture recognition in your first flights so why compound your lack of experience with having to make split second corrections in an abnormal transition from climb to landing. While you're getting prepared this winter I'd recommend you read "Stick and Rudder" with particular attention to the concept of "the spot that does not move" for landing spot aim point recognition, and "The Compleat Taildragger Pilot" by Harvey S. Plourde and his arguments as to why high speed taxiing a taildragger is a dangerous thing to do. Rick Girard On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com>wrote : > > I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter lik e > weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private > Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's > 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring an d > then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions any on a 6000' runway > before I take my plane home to my grass strip. > > I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar pilo ts > with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this airplane > safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to the point > comments only ,Please. > > -------- > &quot;=93Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. =94 > Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320827#320827 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_eis_314.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_181.jpg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl e to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 09:36:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Dennis, Just one comment, pithy and to the point as requested. Crow hopping is a bad idea, IMHO. You have enough to do on takeoff without adding making an instant transition to landing. How many crow hops have you done in the G A aircraft you've flown? If you're like me, the answer is zero. You say you want to know how to fly your Firestar safely, so fly it. Take off, go aroun d the pattern, set up for landing, land. You won't have any of the muscle memory and sight picture recognition in your first flights so why compound your lack of experience with having to make split second corrections in an abnormal transition from climb to landing. While you're getting prepared this winter I'd recommend you read "Stick and Rudder" with particular attention to the concept of "the spot that does not move" for landing spot aim point recognition, and "The Compleat Taildragger Pilot" by Harvey S. Plourde and his arguments as to why high speed taxiing a taildragger is a dangerous thing to do. Rick Girard On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com>wrote : > > I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter lik e > weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private > Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's > 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring an d > then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions any on a 6000' runway > before I take my plane home to my grass strip. > > I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar pilo ts > with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this airplane > safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to the point > comments only ,Please. > > -------- > &quot;=93Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. =94 > Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320827#320827 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_eis_314.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_181.jpg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl e to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 09:51:09 AM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho1@verizon.net>
    Subject: novice Kolb pilot
    I agree with Perry. It is my opinion that it takes more skill to crow hop a Kolb then to just fly one. I would tie the Firestar down, and make sure it will develop full power. Then I would look for a nice grass strip on a calm day, and give it a go. When you land, approach fast and hold the FS one or two feet off the ground until it slows down and lands. Lanny FSII 503 DCDI


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    Time: 11:25:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: "racerjerry" <gki@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    HINTS TO SAVE YOUR BUTT 1 Fly off of a grass strip, at least in the beginning. Grass helps immensely in keeping the tail in its preferred position (behind you). Fortunately, the Firestar has a fairly long fuselage and is not overly sensitive for a tailwheel airplane. 2 Push stick forward. The Firestar has a high thrust-line for its pusher prop. When you come back on the throttle, the nose will want to come up; so immediately the get stick forward to maintain airspeed or bad things will happen. 3 Get some dual time in an airplane absolutely as close in configuration to the same plane as you will be flying. For you, this will be a Kolb Mark III. If your intended dual time is in a Cub or Aeronca type airplane, FORGET IT. The Kolbs are wonderful airplanes but are extremely draggy and with very low wing loading they react MUCH differently than Cubs or Aeroncas. 4 Practice stalls and engine out landings with an instructor in the Mark III. 5 Congratulate yourself on choosing a fine airplane. You are going to have a lot of fun, come spring. P.S. Steps 3 and 4 saved my life. When I was in the beginning stages, a crow hop scared the crap out of me. I drove to PA for a couple hours of dual instruction in the factory demonstrator that I credit for saving my butt when things began to unravel on my first solo flight. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320848#320848


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    Time: 12:31:28 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Thanks All who responded so far Racer Jerry...I'm told this airplane is very easy to fly but has a peculiar temperament with it's freewheeling prop to really slows down quickly when you pull the power back on approach and it takes a steep approach 'stick forward' to keep the speed up. I did ride in a two seat Demo Kolb at Oshkosh...so I know it's sink rate is fast. So does a Kolb Firestar 503 need right or left rudder in take-offs & Climbs? Regardless of it' idiosyncrasies I think it's a great design and I'm eager to master it and fly it safely. -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320852#320852


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    Time: 12:39:20 PM PST US
    From: "The Kuffels" <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    Dennis, Besides the other good comments, suggest you download a copy of AC90-89A from FAA.gov. Both they and the EAA in their manuals on flight test for homebuilts recommend you do a series of low and high speed taxi tests. This is *not* crow hopping. You slowly add (very small amounts of) power on repeated runs. The idea is to be comfortable with accurately raising the tail and controlling direction with rudder as well as having an idea of what your landing sight picture will look like.. Suggest you follow closely the Advisory Circular through First Flight as this will also have you checking your aircraft condition as well as your piloting practice for First Landing. The only other point I would reemphasize is general aviation pilots are not ready for how fast these high drag/low inertia airplanes slow down when power is reduced. The remedy is to carry significant power all the way to touchdown. For example, the Zenith CH701 crowd say to use 3000 rpm on the Rotax 912S for the first several hours. Tom Kuffel Whitefish, MT EAA Flight Advisor


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    Time: 01:02:48 PM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho1@verizon.net>
    Subject:
    So does a Kolb Firestar 503 need right or left rudder in take-offs & Climbs? I have only ever flown my FSII, so I don`t speak for all Kolbs. I never noticed that I need one or the other (left OR right rudder) on take-off and climb. I use BOTH right and left, whatever inputs it takes to keep the aircraft in the middle of the runway. Lanny FSII N598LF


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    Time: 01:06:32 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    The remedy is to carry significant power all the way to touchdown. For example, the Zenith CH701 crowd say to use 3000 rpm on the Rotax 912S for the first several hours. Tom Kuffel Tom K/Gang: Don't know about the CH701, but my 912S powered MKIII turns about 2600-3000 rpm in a steep approach at idle power. Been so long I don't really remember. ;-( Your points are good. I would like to add one thing. After you take off and climb to about 1,000 feet AGL, check your stall speed, then on your first approach keep at least 10-15 mph above this indicated stall speed all the way to the ground. Hard to stall a Kolb and drop one in under those conditions. There are a lot of bent Kolbs because the pilot did not maintain airspeed above the stall. We have experienced Kolb pilots that have let themselves get into that situation. I like to keep a good cross check on my ASI during approach. Just got back from Gantt International Airport. Other than a lot of barn dust, carpenter bee and bird crap, several nice sized mud daubers nest, and a couple small bites in the top edge of the right seat back, Miss P'fer (P fer Plane) is good to go. I need to replace the battery, pulled it and kept it charged while I was gone. Must also check the carb float bowls and add some fresh fuel to the tank. I left it stored with some avgas and mogas, plus Marvel Mystery Oil. The MMO seems to do about the same job as Stabil. My Nissan V6 that sat for 3 months cranked right up and ran like it did when I parked it. The Nissan did the same thing last year and the year before that. Have the same sort of luck with Suzuki dirt bike, ATV, lawn tractor, and antique tractors that spend long periods in storage. Good to be home, john h mkIII Titus, AL


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    Time: 01:17:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Thanks again, ..........To all who contributed good information and especially the AC90-89A from FAA.gov. . Looks like I'll have it all right in my 'minds eye' when this Spring comes around again. -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320858#320858


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    Time: 01:18:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Thanks again, ..........To all who contributed good information and especially the AC90-89A from FAA.gov. . Looks like I'll have it all right in my 'minds eye' when this Spring comes around again. -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320859#320859


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    Time: 01:24:24 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re:
    I use BOTH right and left, whatever inputs it takes to keep the aircraft in the middle of the runway. Lanny FSII N598LF Lanny F/Gang: Took the words right out of my mouth. I do as you do, fly the airplane keeping it right down the middle. That's the secret to flying a Kolb, "fly the airplane, whatever it takes to be in control". john h mkIII Titus, AL


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    Time: 02:16:03 PM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    John ,Glad to hear you made home and all was well Hope you and missPfer get back =0Ain the sky soon watch out for those bugs !Im sure you know about t hat. your =0Afriend CChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisable d from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________________ __=0AFrom: ope John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics. com=0ASent: Wed, November 24, 2010 4:04:13 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Ser ious and to the point comments only ,Please.=0A=0A=0A-=0A-The remedy is to carry significant power all the way to touchdown.- For =0Aexample, th e Zenith CH701 crowd say to use 3000 rpm on the Rotax 912S for the =0Afirst several hours.=0A-=0ATom Kuffel=0A-=0A-=0ATom K/Gang:=0A-=0ADon't know about the CH701, but my 912S powered MKIII-turns about 2600-3000 rpm =0Ain a steep approach at idle power.- Been so long I don't really remem ber.- ;-(=0A-=0AYour points are good.=0A-=0AI would like to add one t hing.- After you take off and climb to about 1,000 feet =0AAGL, check you r stall speed, then on your first approach keep-at least 10-15-mph =0Aa bove this indicated stall speed all the way to the ground.- Hard to stall a =0AKolb and drop one in under those conditions.=0A-=0AThere are a lot of bent Kolbs because the pilot did not maintain airspeed above =0Athe stal l.- We have experienced Kolb pilots that have let themselves get into =0A that situation.- I like to keep a good cross check on my ASI during appro ach.=0A-=0AJust got back from Gantt International Airport.- Other than a lot of barn dust, =0Acarpenter bee and bird crap, several nice sized mud daubers nest, and a couple =0Asmall bites in the top edge of the right seat back, Miss P'fer (P fer Plane) is =0Agood to go.- I need to replace the battery, pulled it and kept it charged =0Awhile-I was gone.-- Must al so check the carb float bowls and add some fresh fuel =0Ato the tank.- I left it stored with some avgas and mogas, plus Marvel Mystery =0AOil.- Th e MMO seems to do about the same job as Stabil.- My Nissan V6 that sat =0Afor 3 months cranked right up and ran like it did when I parked it.- T he Nissan =0Adid the same thing last year and the year before that.- Have the same sort of =0Aluck with Suzuki dirt bike, ATV, lawn tractor, and ant ique tractors that spend =0Along periods in storage.=0A-=0AGood to be hom ================= =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 02:31:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    ........She's a pretty one ! My new bird...http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N49WR.html I just became the legal owner today according to the FAA -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320863#320863


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    Time: 03:25:56 PM PST US
    From: gliderx5@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Latex paint


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    Time: 03:35:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Rudder on take off and climb? Because there's no prop in front of you, you can use a yaw string to determine, well, yaw. Just a small piece of yarn an d a reference line (tape, Sharpie line, just has to be dark and thin) and you r there. Ignore it on take off and keep to the center of the runway, after lift off it will be the opposite of what you've learned to do with a ball (step on the ball). Which rudder pedal you need to press depends on your prop, your redrive, whether the previous owner put a trim tab on and if there is a trim tab, how much it's bent. The nice thing about a yaw string, besides the cost, is that you don't have to think about it a lot, just keep it on the reference line. Rick Girard On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrote : > > Thanks All who responded so far > > Racer Jerry...I'm told this airplane is very easy to fly but has a peculi ar > temperament with it's freewheeling prop to really slows down quickly when > you pull the power back on approach=85=85=85 and it takes a steep approac h 'stick > forward' to keep the speed up. I did ride in a two seat Demo Kolb at > Oshkosh...so I know it's sink rate is fast. > > > So does a Kolb Firestar 503 need right or left rudder in take-offs & > Climbs? > > Regardless of it' idiosyncrasies I think it's a great design and I'm > eager to master it and fly it safely. > > -------- > &quot;=93Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. =94 > Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320852#320852 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl e to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton


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    Time: 03:56:14 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Novice Kolb Pilot
    I was in the same shape back in May. I have a Firestar with 503. My prior experience, 0 taildragger hours, 350 in a Challenger II, 50 in a Quicksilver 50 in GA planes and 2000 in Army helicopters. I would recommend grass instead of hardsurface. The GA taildragger may help with the tail dragger part, but not a bit in the landing an approach. The Kolb glides like a rock. If you get a little slow and flare at 10 feet, it will drop. Get some time in a Kolb Mark III if possible, next after that may be a quicksilver, then a challenger or hawk. I don't about the hawk, but the challenger glides much better than a firestar. I did fast taxi on grass untill I was confident on the ground handling. The I took off. The first few landing, keep up the speed, keep and power in it and fly it to the ground. Good luck, these are fun planes to fly. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Novice Kolb Pilot > > I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter like > weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private > Pilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's > 152's 150's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring and > then a lot of Crow Hopping in no wind conditions on a 6000' runway before > I take my plane home to my grass strip. > > I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar > pilots with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this > airplane safely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to > the point comments only ,Please. > > -------- > &quot;?oEveryone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own > facts.? Daniel Patrick Moynihan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320828#320828 > > >


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    Time: 04:36:49 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Kolb Related In That It Flys
    Have a good day tomorrow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGUnTsunNOA Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 04:58:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Next time you camp in your Kolb
    From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
    Keep this story in mind....it's True ! http://www.alaskadispatch.com/dispatches/news/3370-an-appetite-for-revenge http://blogs.timeslive.co.za/wanderer/2009/11/10/bears-just-one-more-flying-hazard-in-alaska/ During a private "fly-in" fishing excursion in the Alaskan wilderness, the chartered pilot and fishermen left a cooler and bait in the plane. And a bear smelled it. This is what the bear did to the plane. The pilot used his radio and had another pilot bring him 2 new tires, 3 cases of duct tape, and a supply of sheet plastic. He patched the plane together, and FLEW IT HOME ! -------- &quot;Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts. Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320884#320884


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    Time: 05:01:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please.
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    Dennis, The only thing I would add to those previous comments is make your first fl ight a longer one.It takes time to get the feel of something this light.The best place to practice approaches is at altitude,and stall it if you are c omfortable enough,or just fly it as slow as you can and maneuver it a bit.Y ou're gonna like it,I think it's Homers"Most fun to fly aircraft".I put 600 hrs on my FS2 and have almost that much on the MK-3 now. G.Aman MK-3 C Jabiru 2200A 600hrs -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> Sent: Wed, Nov 24, 2010 11:53 am Subject: Kolb-List: Serious and to the point comments only ,Please. I have yet to fly my 2006 Kolb Firestar that I just purchased. Winter like weather have grounded it until Spring, which is fine by me. I'm a Private P ilot with four hundred hours in mostly Piper Warriors and Cessna 172's 152's 150 's. I plan on getting some tail dragger dual time this Spring and then a lot of C row Hopping in no wind conditions any on a 6000' runway before I take my plane home to my grass strip. I would like some pointers, but only from 503 Rotax Kolb Firestar pilot s with considerable experience in that airplane about flying this airplane sa fely. Things to do ...things not to do ! Serious and to the point comments o nly ,Please. -------- &quot;=C3=A2=C2=C2=9CEveryone is entitled to his own opinion, but not hi s own facts.=C3=A2=C2=C2=9D Daniel Patrick Moynihan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=320827#320827 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_eis_314.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_181.jpg


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    Time: 10:36:34 PM PST US
    From: "George Bearden" <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Zinc Chromate?
    I have some abraded areas on my fuse frame (FS1). The paint/primer/sealer stuff on there now is a greenish color. Is it safe to assume this is zinc chromate? I need to touch it up- where do you suppose I should go to get some more paint? What kind should I use? Will spray on one part stuff stick to 2-part? Should I get 2-part zinc chromate primer? I really only need a very little and didn't want to invest heavily in the stuff. Maybe if you-all concur it is zinc chromate, maybe a local flier has some left over. I unnerstan this stuff costs lots to ship as it is a hazardous material. Thanks GeoB


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    Time: 10:55:54 PM PST US
    From: "George Bearden" <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Kolb FS1 fuse floor
    I notice in pictures that many/most Kolbs have a floor from the nose cone extending back past the pilot seat. It may just be fabric, not sure. Mine has only a short sheet of aluminum which extends back a short ways and ends before the control stick. I 'spose this is nice and light, but it seems vulnerable to every pen and flashlight I might ever drop. Do most folks just use fabric? I was thinking painted aluminum would be less vulnerable, plus more immune to weeds scratching it too. What do you think? GeoB




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