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1. 02:13 AM - Re: Hat Cam ! (Pat Ladd)
2. 03:33 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Pat Ladd)
3. 04:55 AM - Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' (Jimmy Young)
4. 05:55 AM - Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' (Gene & Tammy)
5. 06:24 AM - Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' (Richard Pike)
6. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' (Gene & Tammy)
7. 07:41 AM - Re: Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' (Vic)
8. 07:56 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (John Hauck)
9. 08:20 AM - Re: winter skis ! (Ralph B)
10. 08:38 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Jerry Deckard)
11. 09:24 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (John Hauck)
12. 09:36 AM - JBM industries (william sullivan)
13. 09:36 AM - Re: Hat Cam ! (Richard Neilsen)
14. 10:26 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Idle (zeprep251@aol.com)
15. 10:32 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (gotime242)
16. 12:08 PM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
17. 12:09 PM - Re: winter skis ! (ces308)
18. 02:20 PM - Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again (cristalclear13)
19. 02:30 PM - Re: Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again (John Hauck)
20. 06:24 PM - Re: Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again (Richard Girard)
21. 10:35 PM - Re: Rotax 912 Idle (The Kuffels)
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Hi Chris,
nice video
.
>From another Jabi/Extra flyer. (We also have snow on the ground. Temps down
to -7C )
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
<<The Kolb glides like a rock. If you get a little slow
and flare at 10 feet, it will drop.>>
Not so! The Kolb glides perfectly well at an approptiate speed. What you
are describing is a stall.
In that way it is unlike the Challenger which is much more forgiving and
just mushes if the speed drops off
Pat
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Subject: | Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' |
Kolb folks,
I had a nice, semi-X country flight Saturday to an EAA #1347 BBQ at Fayette County
airport, just outside of La Grange TX. Ran into Gary Haley, a friend that
many of you know. He still has a Mk III, but it's currently benched. WX was great,
80 degrees at mid afternoon, winds WSW @ 12. Met a lot of new experimental
builders, mostly RV flyers, & had one of those days that makes me glad I'm fortunate
enough to own & fly a Kolb.
Flew 277 miles round trip, engine was on for 5.1 hrs, burned 14.1 gal fuel. Did
a lot of low flight river meandering on the way home and had a great day. Here's
a photo of Gary & I standing in front of my Firestar.
Oh, forgot mention that would be 2.76 gph, or if you prefer, 19.65 mpg.
[Wink]
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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Subject: | Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' |
Enjoyed your report and photo. What engine?
I have noticed on some past photos, from others, that some of the Kolb
owners have prop shaft extenders on their Rotax engines. Just wondering
why?
Gene
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From: "Jimmy Young" <jdy100@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:53 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin'
>
> Kolb folks,
>
> I had a nice, semi-X country flight Saturday to an EAA #1347 BBQ at
> Fayette County airport, just outside of La Grange TX. Ran into Gary Haley,
> a friend that many of you know. He still has a Mk III, but it's currently
> benched. WX was great, 80 degrees at mid afternoon, winds WSW @ 12. Met a
> lot of new experimental builders, mostly RV flyers, & had one of those
> days that makes me glad I'm fortunate enough to own & fly a Kolb.
>
> Flew 277 miles round trip, engine was on for 5.1 hrs, burned 14.1 gal
> fuel. Did a lot of low flight river meandering on the way home and had a
> great day. Here's a photo of Gary & I standing in front of my Firestar.
>
> Oh, forgot mention that would be 2.76 gph, or if you prefer, 19.65 mpg.
> [Wink]
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' |
Prop shaft extenders do two things:
1. They keep the ultra-flexible Ivoprop out of the aileron tubes.
2. They get the prop further from the trailing edge, which reduces "prop chop"
noise as the prop cuts through the airflow coming off the wing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' |
Thanks Richard. Makes sense now.
Gene
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From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:22 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin'
>
> Prop shaft extenders do two things:
> 1. They keep the ultra-flexible Ivoprop out of the aileron tubes.
> 2. They get the prop further from the trailing edge, which reduces "prop
> chop" noise as the prop cuts through the airflow coming off the wing.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322339#322339
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>
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Subject: | Re: Nice day doing some Texas Kolb cruisin' |
Richard
Does the lack of chop noise improve performance?
Vic
Maine
912 Xtra
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
In that way it is unlike the Challenger which is much more forgiving and
just mushes if the speed drops off
Pat
Thanks for that info.
That explains why it is so easy to identify a Challenger pilot that has a
bit of a hard landing. They usually are sporting a cast on one or both legs
from their toes to their crotch. The injuries are usually the result of the
hose clamps failing that attach the nose gear, followed by the pilots feet
going into the ground as the nose of the Challenger is wiped off.
I have never flown a Challenger. I have to rely on your expert advice.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: winter skis ! |
Chris, it looks like you did it right with the skis.
I like your "hat cam" and the video you made. I would like to do the same.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
Maybe my term flair was a bit much. My point is that the kolb airspeed
bleeds off quickly. I am not one of those one plane is better than the other
kind of people. Each has it's plus and minus. I didn't mean to imply that
the challenger is better. I had a challenger, now have a kolb. Not because I
thought one was better than the other, just ready for something different. I
also have a Rans S12 I am building.
However "My" kolb glides like a rock compared the challenger I had. I do
like the kolb, I am not cutting it down.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Novice Kolb Pilot
>
>
> In that way it is unlike the Challenger which is much more forgiving and
> just mushes if the speed drops off
>
> Pat
>
>
> Thanks for that info.
>
> That explains why it is so easy to identify a Challenger pilot that has a
> bit of a hard landing. They usually are sporting a cast on one or both
> legs
> from their toes to their crotch. The injuries are usually the result of
> the
> hose clamps failing that attach the nose gear, followed by the pilots feet
> going into the ground as the nose of the Challenger is wiped off.
>
> I have never flown a Challenger. I have to rely on your expert advice.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
Maybe my term flair was a bit much. However "My" kolb glides like a rock
compared the challenger I had. I do
like the kolb, I am not cutting it down.
Jerry
Hi Jerry/Gang:
No problem. You have a "flair" about you. Could not resist. ;-)
I was responding, primarily, to Patrick L, former Challenger owner/pilot.
I have been flying Kolbs since the first one I built in 1984. I fly them
because I have found nothing better that suits my style of flying.
Crashworthiness is also high on my list of requirements for my aircraft.
Comparing Kolbs and Challengers...., as far as I am concerned, there is
none, especially on the Kolb List. I don't imagine Kolbs get high marks on
the Challenger List either, if there is a Challenger List.
Too cold and windy to fly today for fun.
BTW: I took advice from the List and bought the SS exhaust springs from:
http://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm
I installed them a couple days ago with a good band of silicone seal from
hook to hook. They fit the Titan Exhaust perfectly. Looks like they will
outlast the old springs that are better at producing rust and failing than
keeping the Titan silencer on the pipes. Only operational hours will tell
if they are as good as advertised.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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- John- Thanks for the link to JBM.- Last year I put a new throttle cab
le grommet on the Bing 54, and it's cracked already without even running it
.-It was a Rotax part out of Lockwood.- Looks like I'll try the JBM par
ts.
-
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----------------------- Bill
Sullivan
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dsor Locks, Ct.
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----------------------- FS 44
7
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----------------------- 30 de
grees, clear and windy-
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Chris
The quality is good on that hat cam. Could you post a photo of your hat
mount? What camera are you using?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 11:58 PM, ces308 <ces308@ldaco.com> wrote:
>
> Ok ...I stoled someones idea with the hat cam,but it works great ! Thank
> you ! Here is the link if you get the chance ,
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3qNi2m7yh0
>
> Have a great weekend !
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jabiru A-2200
> n327 cs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322318#322318
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Idle |
Tom,
It,s like teaching a pig to whistle,it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Rotax 912 Idle
My Zenith CH701 friend has a 912S. It has the characteristic on the groun
d
of stopping when the throttle is pulled to full idle. As his friendly Fligh
t
Advisor I find this worrisome if not downright unsafe. I've tried to get hi
m
to increase his idle stop screws but he views it as a deliberate design
"feature" to replace the absent mixture idle cutoff. Any comments or
experience to assuage my fears or convince him of the error of his ways?
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
Tom K/Gang:
The 912 operators manual indicates the idle speed to be 1,400 rpm minimum.
No mention of "deliberate design feature to replace the absent mixture idle
cutoff."
I believe if Rotax wanted a mixture idle cutoff, they would have equipped
the 912 with a mixture control.
Never lost a 912 with the throttle closed during an approach, and don't wan
t
to. For that matter, never had a 912 quit running in flight, except when I
screwed up and tried to fly with contaminated fuel. I didn't know the fuel
was contaminated because I did not drain fuel after I obtained it from an
unreliable source, even though I thought, at the time, both places were
reliable aviation fuel suppliers.
I have found with my one 912UL and two 912ULS's, they all like to idle
around 1,500 to 1,600 rpm.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
I was in the same situation. I am a commercial pilot / fly a learjet 60 for a living
and always wanted a small experimental type airplane. I got my tailwheel
in a super cub, which is still completely different.
I read up on the handling characteristics a lot, then just gave it a shot. As mentioned
crow hops are a bad idea, as is starting from pavement.
Keep your speed up, fly it to the ground. Come in with a little power each time
(enough to make it seem like a normal approach in a cessna or something) and
literally just fly the mains on. As you get better start reducing the power untill
you can land at idle. Do not flare at 20 feet over the numbers, you will
most likely stall. Keep you approach attitude untill 2 feet off the ground and
go from there.
Hope this helps.
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
Thanks Go Time....What a contrast a Lear jet to a Kolb Firestar. If it wasn't for
this Firestar popping up on an add, I doubt I would have returned to flying
at age 62. I also ride Honda Gold-wings , I always said; If I could only put
wings on my GL1800, it would be a perfect world of thrill, reliability and performance....
The Kolb Firestar seems to fit the bill. A best of both worlds.
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Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard
Shaw
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Subject: | Re: winter skis ! |
Thanks Ralph !
I had a good teacher ! lol Can't wait to try them !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
N327CS
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Subject: | Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again |
Hey all! It's Cristal. The article on the front of the AOPA training magazine
inspired me. It said, "No Excuses! Find a way to fly!" So I saved up my change
(and hubby even donated his for my cause!) and I finally got my BFR! I also
found some time (had a few days off from work and found a sitter) to see what
damage my Kolb Mark II has from setting up so long without flying since the
baby came 6 weeks early I didn't get a chance to prepare the plane to set.
I've taken apart my carbs and will have to replace some things. That ethanol loaded
gasoline really gunked up the carbs and fuel filter. What a mess. My battery
is also corroded. I'll be saving up some more change to get my replacement
parts. Going to clean out the plastic gas tanks I have, take off the exhaust
and check the rings and pistons. Now I only have Saturdays to work on it
(if I find a sitter) so it may be a while before Merry Dawn is back in the air.
(I can tell she's missing it! :D)
On a better note, my newest little family member, Abigail, is doing just fine and
is growing like crazy!
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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Subject: | Re: Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again |
Hey all! It's Cristal. The article on the front of the AOPA training
magazine inspired me. It said, "No Excuses! Find a way to fly!"
--------
Cristal Waters
Hi Cristal/Gang:
Where there is a will, there is a way. Good on you!!!
Now I will have an excuse to fly over to Georgia when you all have your next
flyin.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Merry Dawn is a few steps closer to being airborn again |
Congratulations and Merry Christmas to all of you, and a Happy FLYING New
Year to you.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 4:17 PM, cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com
> wrote:
> cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
>
> Hey all! It's Cristal. The article on the front of the AOPA training
> magazine inspired me. It said, "No Excuses! Find a way to fly!" So I saved
> up my change (and hubby even donated his for my cause!) and I finally got my
> BFR! I also found some time (had a few days off from work and found a
> sitter) to see what damage my Kolb Mark II has from setting up so long
> without flying since the baby came 6 weeks early I didn't get a chance to
> prepare the plane to set.
>
> I've taken apart my carbs and will have to replace some things. That
> ethanol loaded gasoline really gunked up the carbs and fuel filter. What a
> mess. My battery is also corroded. I'll be saving up some more change to
> get my replacement parts. Going to clean out the plastic gas tanks I have,
> take off the exhaust and check the rings and pistons. Now I only have
> Saturdays to work on it (if I find a sitter) so it may be a while before
> Merry Dawn is back in the air. (I can tell she's missing it! :D)
>
> On a better note, my newest little family member, Abigail, is doing just
> fine and is growing like crazy!
>
> --------
> Cristal Waters
> Kolb Mark II Twinstar
> Rotax 503 DCSI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322381#322381
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Idle |
<< My Zenith CH701 friend has a 912S. It has the characteristic on
the ground of stopping when the throttle is pulled to full idle >>
<< It,s like teaching a pig to whistle,it wastes your time and annoys
the pig.
G.Aman >>
Actually he has been pretty responsive to most of my suggestions and did
a thorough and careful AC90-89 style preparation to his successful first
flight.
After showing him John's response to my query he has agreed before his
second flight to increase his idle set screws 1/2 turn at a time until
he gets a stable idle above 1400. However since he is an
(anti)snowbird, the next flight might not be until spring given the
recent weather here.
Tom Kuffel
Whitefish, MT
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