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Tue 12/07/10


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 06:07 AM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (Mike Welch)
     2. 06:38 AM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (John Hauck)
     3. 07:00 AM - Tygon-I didn`t know that! (Lanny Fetterman)
     4. 07:23 AM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (Robert Laird)
     5. 10:14 AM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (zeprep251@aol.com)
     6. 10:21 AM - Re: JBM industries (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN)
     7. 11:04 AM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (russ kinne)
     8. 12:00 PM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (John Hauck)
     9. 12:02 PM - Re: Re:non corrosive sealants (John Hauck)
    10. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: JBM industries (zeprep251@aol.com)
    11. 04:57 PM - Re: Merry Dawn (cristalclear13)
    12. 06:34 PM - Re: First Flight (Ron @ KFHU)
    13. 06:36 PM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (zeprep251@aol.com)
    14. 07:45 PM - Re: Merry Dawn (GeoB)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:07:17 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    John=2C Regarding rodents=2C etc. Try putting a "mothball" puck (toilet bowl han ger) in vulnerable areas. If you are concerned about the puck harming any surround ing airplane parts=2C make a little basket for it to sit on out of aluminum foil. Be sure to list them on your pre-flight inspection=2C to remove them and set aside during flights. I would think three ought to do it. Your experience may v ary. No self-respecting mud dauber=2C or mouse=2C rat=2C squirrel=2C chicken =2C etc=2C could stand the fumes! Guaranteed to last 90 days=2C depending on use....they say. Might be worth a try=2C supposedly works for deer in your garden=2C altho ugh I can't say if it's true or not. Awhile back=2C I was walking in my shop=2C when across the front of my ey es flew a small "wasp" looking insect. It was really small=2C missed me by about 4". I turned my head to watch were it was headed. It landed on the open fuel line to my GEO engine (which was disconnected so that I could remove the engine). Then it proceeded to walk inside the fuel line!! Evidently=2C it had a nice nest going on in side the fuel line. I disconnected the fuel line completely=2C and removed it altogether!!! I have since replaced it with automotive high pressure rubber fuel hose....with a filter !! Mike Welch MkIII From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:non corrosive sealants John=2C A lot of cold air and exhaust fumes blew up my tail boom=2Cso I made a plug of 6" thick foam rubber=2C 7"in diameter with 4 slits cut for the cables a t 12=2C6.10 and 2 o'clock approx=2Cplaced it about a foot up the pipe.Seems to work OK. Cut it on a band saw. G.Aman Gary A/Folks: That may be a good idea. No telling what is being blown up the tailboom an d into the cockpit. The important thing for me is to insure the rodents won't chew through the foam to get into the cockpit. I have to be careful. I do not want to trap condensation=2C rain water=2C etc.=2C inside the tailboom (a very intergral part of the aircraft). Need to do something positive though=2C before the rodents start looking fo r new nesting areas. john h mkIII Titus=2C Alabama


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    Time: 06:38:51 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    Regarding rodents, etc. Try putting a "mothball" puck (toilet bowl hanger) in vulnerable areas. Mike Welch Mike W/Gang: I have done moth balls, rat traps, mouse traps, DECON rat poison, etc. The best approach has been blocking the aft end of the tailboom with scotch brite pads. This year something got in through the pads, took a couple nips out of the top edge of the right seat back cover and the edge of one shoulder harness strap. Everything is still serviceable. Could have been a lot worse. Or it may have gotten done the three months I was rocking and rolling in the wheel chair. I am not sure. In the past I have had seat and shoulder harnesses, wiring, and plastic brake lines cut. They cut the brake line completely through, hydraulic fluid and all. I think I will probably go with a hardware cloth or sheet metal split cap of some sort to mechanically keep'em out, or try to keep them out. Thanks for your suggestion, john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 07:00:05 AM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho1@verizon.net>
    Subject: Tygon-I didn`t know that!
    Hi all, I replaced all the tygon fuel line on the FSII with new tygon F-4040-A. When it was delivered, there was a note that said. Tygon appears to NOT degrade if kept frozen. So I packed up the tubing I had left over, with my Foodsaver vacuum packer, (mostly used for venison,) and threw the spare tygon in the freezer. I have also discovered, that my vacuum packer works to prolong the shelf life of all kinds of other products. Eg: contact cement, Liquid Nails construction adhesive, paint, epoxy products, pretty much anything stored in a can that is always dried up when you go to use it. Worth what you paid for it! Lanny N598LF


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    Time: 07:23:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    Sounds like you need 2 or 3 hungry cats in that hangar of yours! :-) On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:33 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > > Regarding rodents, etc. Try putting a "mothball" puck (toilet bowl hanger) > in > vulnerable areas. > Mike Welch > > > Mike W/Gang: > > I have done moth balls, rat traps, mouse traps, DECON rat poison, etc. > > The best approach has been >


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    Time: 10:14:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    List, I had a 4 foot long Black snake move into my dirt floor hanger last spring, uninvited by the way,but once you get used to watching where you walk,the r odent free benefits have been outstanding. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 9:39 am Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:non corrosive sealants Regarding rodents, etc. Try putting a "mothball" puck (toilet bowl hanger) in vulnerable areas. Mike Welch Mike W/Gang: I have done moth balls, rat traps, mouse traps, DECON rat poison, etc. The best approach has been blocking the aft end of the tailboom with scotch brite pads. This year something got in through the pads, took a couple ni ps out of the top edge of the right seat back cover and the edge of one sho ulder harness strap. Everything is still serviceable. Could have been a l ot worse. Or it may have gotten done the three months I was rocking and r olling in the wheel chair. I am not sure. In the past I have had seat and shoulder harnesses, wiring, and plastic bra ke lines cut. They cut the brake line completely through, hydraulic fluid and all. I think I will probably go with a hardware cloth or sheet metal split cap o f some sort to mechanically keep'em out, or try to keep them out. Thanks for your suggestion, john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 10:21:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: JBM industries
    From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil>
    Hauck wrote: << BTW: I took advice from the List and bought the SS exhaust springs from: http://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm I installed them a couple days ago ... Only operational hours will tell if they are as good as advertised. >> Kolb Friends - JBM also sells after-market replacement rubber boots for the Bing carbs. Anybody have experience with these? My 912 is due for new carb boots, and the Rotax boots are somewhat expensive. The JBM website claims that their "exact replacement" part for this item will outlast the Rotax boot, at less than half the cost. Am hoping someone on this List has bought these rubber boots from JBM, and can comment on their quality and longevity. Many thanks - Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-72 Sandia Park, NM


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    Time: 11:04:51 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    John You prolly know this, but a deer (aka white-footed, peromyscus) mouse can squeeze thru 1/2" hardware cloth. Hard to believe! Better to use 1/4" Russ On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:25 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > John, > A lot of cold air and exhaust fumes blew up my tail boom,so I made > a plug of 6" thick foam rubber, 7"in diameter with 4 slits cut for > the cables at 12,6.10 and 2 o'clock approx,placed it about a foot > up the pipe.Seems to work OK. Cut it on a band saw. > G.Aman > > > Gary A/Folks: > > That may be a good idea. No telling what is being blown up the > tailboom and into the cockpit. > > The important thing for me is to insure the rodents won't chew > through the foam to get into the cockpit. > > I have to be careful. I do not want to trap condensation, rain > water, etc., inside the tailboom (a very intergral part of the > aircraft). > > Need to do something positive though, before the rodents start > looking for new nesting areas. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama > >


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    Time: 12:00:11 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    I had a 4 foot long Black snake move into my dirt floor hanger last spring,uninvited by the way,but once you get used to watching where you walk,the rodent free benefits have been outstanding. G.Aman Larry Cottrell has a herd of good sized bull snakes around his place. Should have brought a couple back to Alabama with me. No one living in the old house out in the pasture where I have my airstrip and hanger. If they were, we'd have some cats, as Robert L suggested, if those big rats did not kick the cat's butt. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama


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    Time: 12:02:49 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re:non corrosive sealants
    You prolly know this, but a deer (aka white-footed, peromyscus) mouse can squeeze thru 1/2" hardware cloth. Hard to believe! Better to use 1/4" Russ Don't know about deer mice, but a normal/regular mouse can probably do the same thing. Thanks for the info. john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama


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    Time: 12:35:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: JBM industries
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    Dennis, I can assure you that JBM is very conservative in his claims and you will b e pleased with the cost and performance of his stuff. Gary Aman -----Original Message----- From: Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN <Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 1:22 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: JBM industries Hauck wrote: << BTW: I took advice from the List and bought the SS exhaust springs from: http://jbmindustries.com/ROTAX.htm I installed them a couple days ago ... Only operational hours will tell if they are as good as advertised. >> Kolb Friends =93 JBM also sells after-market replacement rubber boots for the Bing carbs. Anybody have experience with these? My 912 is due for new carb boots, and the Rotax boots are somewhat expensive. The JBM website claims that their =9Cexact replacement=9D part for this item will outlast the Rot ax boot, at less than half the cost. Am hoping someone on this List has bought these rubber boots from JBM, and can comment on their quality and longevity. Many thanks =93 Dennis Kirby Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-72 Sandia Park, NM


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    Time: 04:57:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Merry Dawn
    From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
    I don't quite understand everything you said, but I've been wanting a sealed battery anyways so I will probably just buy a new one instead of rejuvenating the old one. But thanks for the suggestion and info. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322629#322629


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    Time: 06:34:10 PM PST US
    From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    John I must have missed it, what are you recovering from? Btw I don't know if you heard but Henke totaled his Aerobatic Extra, he had two engine failures in the last 7 months, the last one totalled that airplane. He landed on the highway and a car hit him or is it vice a versa...The old K'rnal walked away both times with not even a scratch. I told him he is getting real good at it. Ron @ KFHU do not archive ====================== ---- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: ============ ----- John , So very glad to hear you got back in the air ! Chris Davis Thanks, Chris/Gang: I'm still recovering, but it is definitely getting better each day. Was happy the 912ULS performed so well after nearly 7 months down time. It was just as though she had been flown regularly. I was also surprised I had no more moisture in the fuel tank, which was at about 5 gal, or 20% capacity. The fuel was a mixture of 87 octane mogas w/ethanol and 100LL, plus Marvel Mystery Oil. I have no idea what the ratio of the two fuels was, but probably more 87 than 100. A good bath and the bird will be as good as new. john h mkIII Titus, Alabama -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 06:36:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Merry Dawn
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    Cristal I'm running a D-6 Harley Davidson spill proof battery.It fits in the box a nd it's been good for 3 years now.No idea what it cost's,but it has higher cranking amps than anything I could find that size at NAPA. G.Aman MK-3C Jabiru 2200a -----Original Message----- From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 7:58 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Merry Dawn .com> I don't quite understand everything you said, but I've been wanting a seale d battery anyways so I will probably just buy a new one instead of rejuvenati ng the old one. But thanks for the suggestion and info. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322629#322629


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    Time: 07:45:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Merry Dawn
    From: "GeoB" <gab16@sbcglobal.net>
    cristalclear13 wrote: > I don't quite understand everything you said I just used your situation as a jumping off point to offer an alternative to those few it really fits. Not everybody is interested in fooling around with batteries. But wait! There's MORE! For some of you pilots who buy aircraft batteries and don't want to fool with them, for $35 + shipping you can buy a rejuvenator that you wire up permanently. While I have no economic interest in this issue I think saving one aircraft battery would be worth the $$. GeoB -------- GeoB &quot;Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors&quot; Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322641#322641




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