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1. 04:49 AM - Re: Merry Dawn (Thom Riddle)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (robert bean)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: Merry Dawn (Thom Riddle)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (robert bean)
5. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (John Hauck)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (Herb)
7. 07:03 AM - Re: battery rejuvenator forum... (Herb)
8. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (robert bean)
9. 11:05 AM - Re: Novice Kolb Pilot (Dennis Thate)
10. 06:26 PM - Re: Re: Merry Dawn (b young)
11. 06:53 PM - Re: non corrosive sealants (John T. Schmidt)
12. 09:57 PM - Re: Merry Dawn (GeoB)
13. 10:09 PM - Re: Merry Dawn (GeoB)
14. 10:40 PM - Re: Merry Dawn (GeoB)
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GeoB,
Do you have a link to this $35 wonder? I googled battery rejuvenator and only clicked
on the first result....$1600 for some very sophisticated devise. I lost
interest very quickly at that price.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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I ordered one recently for my seldom driven porsche. Battery Minder from Amazon,
the vendor is Northern Tool.
Price, including shipping was $47.86
BB
On 8, Dec 2010, at 7:47 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
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> GeoB,
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> Do you have a link to this $35 wonder? I googled battery rejuvenator and only
clicked on the first result....$1600 for some very sophisticated devise. I lost
interest very quickly at that price.
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> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> Jabiru 2200A #1574
> Tennessee Prop 64x32
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> Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Bob,
Do you mean this?
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201
If so, I have one. I thought a "rejuvenator" was something else, that magically
restores batteries that no longer hold a charge. I leave this connected to my
Slingshot battery all winter (and only winter) to keep it fresh and it does the
job well, as far as I can tell.
I've never tried it to "rejuvenate" a battery that would no longer hold a charge.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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Looks like the same one. It is supposed to do the same thing. Obviously a $35
unit
won't perform the same as a $1000 one.
BB
Today would be a good day to transfer my remaining "av gas" from the plane to the
snow plow.
On 8, Dec 2010, at 9:09 AM, Thom Riddle wrote:
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> Bob,
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> Do you mean this?
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> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201
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> If so, I have one. I thought a "rejuvenator" was something else, that magically
restores batteries that no longer hold a charge. I leave this connected to
my Slingshot battery all winter (and only winter) to keep it fresh and it does
the job well, as far as I can tell.
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> I've never tried it to "rejuvenate" a battery that would no longer hold a charge.
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> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> Jabiru 2200A #1574
> Tennessee Prop 64x32
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> Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
> Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201
If so, I have one.
Thom Riddle
Thom R/Folks:
Did you note this on Northern Tools web page?
a.. Not for use with aircraft batteries
Must be a "liability" issue.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama - 25F with a chance of snow flurries.
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A battery charger and a battery rejuvenator are
nearly the same thing... They both remove the
sulfate from the plates...Sulfate begins to form
the minute a battery is unused... The Rejuvenator
, a home built one, seems to be no more than a
diode and some 100 watt light bulbs in series
/parallel on the diode leg to reduce the current
to abt 4 to 500 ma.. Plugged into an ac
outlet...Three bulbs in series /parallel would give 1.5 amps roughly..
The diode goes to the positive terminal with
the cathode . black band., pointing to the
post.. The other side of the ac cord goes
directly to the neg post.. So the other side of
the ac cord goes to 0ne to three 100 watt light
bulb in series/parallel with a 3 or 4 amp diode .
The diode being the closest item to the positive
terminal.. The idea is to hit the plates with a
low current high voltage , half wave pulse...This
knocks the sulfate from the plates where it
settles to the bottom... After an hour or
so...(minding the temperature of the battery)
it should be upended into a plastic tray and
flushed with distilled water to get most of the
sulfate crystals out...Filter the acid from the
tray and add it back to the battery...top up with
distilled water or battery acid..and
charge..Naturally it will not work on shorted
plates or open plates... All of this from 1 hour
of reading on the net...Do it outside...and away
from anything that could be ruined if the battery
should explode..:-) Not particularly dangerous
I think...I plan to give it a try...
This site has the schematic...as well as a good
explanation of the problem and cure...Herb
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/166271-battery-rejuvenator.html
At 06:47 AM 12/8/2010, you wrote:
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>GeoB,
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>Do you have a link to this $35 wonder? I googled
>battery rejuvenator and only clicked on the
>first result....$1600 for some very
>sophisticated devise. I lost interest very quickly at that price.
>
>--------
>Thom Riddle
>Buffalo, NY (9G0)
>Kolb Slingshot SS-021
>Jabiru 2200A #1574
>Tennessee Prop 64x32
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>
>Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
>Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=322650#322650
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Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List:battery rejuvenator forum... |
Here is a link to a 15 dollar,plus shipping, kit on Ebay... It uses
30 volt pulses to do the job...at 1.25 khz...takes up to three weeks... Herb
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12-volts-lead-acid-battery-desulfator-kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4154db39c4QQitemZ280596527556QQptZAutomotiveQ5fServices
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Maybe they are referring to gel-cell? I could see a problem if the battery was
unable to vent properly and
could explode? I did have a cap bang past my head one time. Startling.
BB
On 8, Dec 2010, at 9:32 AM, John Hauck wrote:
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> Thom Riddle
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> Thom R/Folks:
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> Did you note this on Northern Tools web page?
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> a.. Not for use with aircraft batteries
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> Must be a "liability" issue.
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> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama - 25F with a chance of snow flurries.
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Subject: | Re: Novice Kolb Pilot |
Gleamed from all this is...Air Speed, Pitch Control...Wheel Landings !
And a positive safe attitude. Not much different then a Goldwing :)
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Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard
Shaw
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Cristal
I'm running a D-6 Harley Davidson spill proof battery.It fits in the box
and it's been good for 3 years now.No idea what it cost's,but it has
higher cranking amps than anything I could find that size at NAPA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am using a battery from a jump start from harbor freight. the jump
start cost $38.00 or there bouts... back when I bought it the same
battery from Arizona battery was around 50.00 to 55.00 now they have
a 18 amp hour for 38.75 and a 22 amp hour for 44.00 very little
size and weight difference. I am sure they would add frt. to the cost.
when the battery was 5 years old and still working well... I ordered a
replacement battery from harbor frt. seems it was 18.00 and 6 to 8
for freight down side it took 3 months to get it. sure it came slow
boat from china. it is about 5 years old now and still working well.
at the time I ordered 2 batteries... one for the plane and one to
put back in the jump start, 2 bats, 36.00 8.00 frt.. for both.
at least that is what I remember
these batteries are Absorption Glass Mat (AGM) Sealed Batteries
Boyd young mkiii
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Subject: | Re: non corrosive sealants |
Good evening, once again I will be at the Sebring LSA expo air show in booths 105/106 and on display will be my made in the USA AeroLIFE Products. Check out my web site www.aerolifeindustries.com and talk about non corrosive sealants that's all I make as well as my FTS fuel tank sealant in one part or in two part. So, stop by and say hello the Show is from Jan 20 to the 23rd and we even give away free samples. Have a safe trip down, see you at the show.
Sincerely,
John T. Schmidt, CFI
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Thom Riddle wrote:
> GeoB, Do you have a link to this $35 wonder?
I am not sure how to answer this. When I checked a few days ago there was one for
$34.99. Today I see one like mine at $37.00. In 2008 I paid $25.99 each for
two. See
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-Desulfator-Saver-AGM-SLA-Gel-Wheelchair-Jetski-/200550605348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb1bf6224
I get a little uneasy when people start putting words in my mouth. I hope you were
not attributing the word 'wonder' to me. Everything I have said is factual.
I do not intend to imply or endorse anything beyond my own experience with these
things.
> I googled battery rejuvenator
Yeah, 'desulfator' is a much better word. There exist products that are poured
into a battery- I have never used one and don't intend to- and I think 'rejuvenator'
is a term that they use.
GeoB
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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Thom Riddle wrote:
> Bob, I thought a "rejuvenator" was something else
This device does both- it maintains a charge at a low amperage. It will keep the
battery charged without boiling out all the water, or building up pressure in
a sealed battery. It also has a desulfator function. I use a float charger like
these also but mine come from Harbor Freight for around $5 on sale. They do
not have a desulfator function like the Northern Tool model. This sounds like
a great combination because desulfator or not, you need a float charger on batteries
during storage.
> that magically restores batteries that no longer hold a charge.
Having a BS in electronics, I prefer the scientific explanation.
GeoB
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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> it should be upended into a plastic tray and flushed with distilled water to
get most of the sulfate crystals out...
I would like to mention that no step like this is required when using the modern
desulfators. It doesn't knock off chunks. To my understanding, which may be
incomplete or in error, the physical action takes place at the meeting of the
surface of the crystal and the current-carrying electrolyte. These is no heavy
current melting a crystal like some do to 'rejuvenate Ni-cads. Actual specific
chemical bonds are excited to a higher energy state. This weakens and breaks
them freeing them to go back into solution. The atoms from the crystals go back
into solution in an ionic state, and continue their normal and necessary function
as part of the electrolyte.
I have never shorted out a battery (with detritus building up under the plates)
because of desulfating.
If there is a chemist in the house, listen to him not me. I took twice the number
of chemistry classes than required for my engineering degree, but that was
a long time ago and my brain needs desulfated.
GeoB
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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