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1. 04:16 AM - Fw: challenger nose wheel (Ted Cowan)
2. 05:39 AM - Re: Merry Dawn (Thom Riddle)
3. 08:01 AM - Re: Battery rejuvenators/chargers (Herb)
4. 09:26 AM - HDPE tanks (Mike Welch)
5. 10:06 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (Dana Hague)
6. 10:15 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (robert bean)
7. 10:29 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (william sullivan)
8. 10:40 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (robert bean)
9. 11:05 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (Carolina Flyer)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: HDPE tanks (Stephen Spence)
11. 03:53 PM - Re: HDPE tanks (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
12. 04:01 PM - Re: HDPE tanks (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
13. 04:23 PM - Re: HDPE tanks (robert bean)
14. 05:29 PM - Re: HDPE tanks (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
15. 10:42 PM - Re: Re: HDPE tanks (Ron @ KFHU)
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Subject: | Fw: challenger nose wheel |
>>> would like to say that the frail nose wheels of the challengers are not
>>> all that bad. lost an engine while only about five hundred feet and no
>>> good place to go. did a hard banking dive to get to an LZ. picked up
>>> too much speed so I told the guy up front to hold the break real hard
>>> but not to take the stick from me. I forced it down on the mains and
>>> the nose wheel hit real hard and colapsed under the plane. it acted
>>> like a break and we skidded to a safe stop with minimal damage. learned
>>> that trick from george travis at smiths station a long time ago. will
>>> never fly with a squeeze bulb again. I much prefer being able to put my
>>> little sling shot down where I want it when I want it. question to
>>> someone smarter than me. I think I have isolated the rum rum to
>>> possibly a timing problem. Is it possible for one mag to be timed just
>>> a hair different than the other side and cause it to sould like it
>>> rolls? ted cowan, slingshot, 912ul rum rum.
>>
>
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GeoB,
I was not putting words in your mouth. "Wonder" was my word. I was just wanting
to know where you could get one at that price.
I'm happy to learn that my little Battery MINDer is a "desulfater" though I bought
it just to maintain the charge on my SS battery during long cold winter non-flying
spells.
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Subject: | Re: Battery rejuvenators/chargers |
My understanding is that a certain amount of the sulfate compound
goes back into solution and some will fall to the bottom depending on
the severity of the build up ... The heavy duty de-sulfators hit
the plates with a high voltage pulse at some frequency..(the kit
built one from ebay via Tiawan) uses 1.5 khz as I recall...and 30
volts...The home built one uses 30 cycle half wave pulses at some
unknown voltage...(the drop across a 120 volt 100 watt bulb in series
with the diode and the battery..)... I think it depends on the
amount of sulfate on the plates. Deeply discharged batteries are the
ones that find their way to the salvage yard...and will exhibit
swelling in sub freezing weather...I would not buy those..
I went there to buy a few deep cycle batteries for
testing...(flying, Golf and now fishing) :-) but found that they
wanted 30 cents a pound for them..12 to 15 bucks...so I decided to
test the one I have at home that is not taking much of a
charge...Regular auto battery... I pull all of my batteries from
mowers , scooters, etc and store them in the basement this time of
year...Use an automatic charger in a rotation weekly...By the way
store them above concrete floors...I use 1x10 's on concrete blocks..Herb
At 12:37 AM 12/9/2010, you wrote:
>
> > it should be upended into a plastic tray and flushed with
> distilled water to get most of the sulfate crystals out...
>
>I would like to mention that no step like this is required when
>using the modern desulfators. It doesn't knock off chunks. To my
>understanding, which may be incomplete or in error, the physical
>action takes place at the meeting of the surface of the crystal and
>the current-carrying electrolyte. These is no heavy current melting
>a crystal like some do to 'rejuvenate Ni-cads. Actual specific
>chemical bonds are excited to a higher energy state. This weakens
>and breaks them freeing them to go back into solution. The atoms
>from the crystals go back into solution in an ionic state, and
>continue their normal and necessary function as part of the electrolyte.
>
>I have never shorted out a battery (with detritus building up under
>the plates) because of desulfating.
>
>If there is a chemist in the house, listen to him not me. I took
>twice the number of chemistry classes than required for my
>engineering degree, but that was a long time ago and my brain needs desulfated.
>
>GeoB
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Group=2C
More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
If you have that link=2C could you repost it=2C I can't find it doing a sea
rch.
Thanks=2C
Mike Welch
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At 12:23 PM 12/9/2010, Mike Welch wrote:
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> More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
>If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a search.
Might have been Flambeau <http://fluids.flambeau.com/>. I used one of
their 1.5 gallon tanks as an aux tank for my UltraStar before I switched to
a custom aluminum tank.
-Dana
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sense, reason and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. -- Galileo
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Mike, I replaced my tanks this past spring with a pair that I thought
would be decent. They did have a good raised boss
that I used for the vent lines. Unfortunately they distorted more than
I was comfortable with.
I ran them to the end of the season.
I sourced another supplier for another pair. I have them now and they
look very sturdy, substantial and rigid.
-no guarantee how they will react to heat and pressure but I'm
optimistic.
They are only 5 gal tanks but that is all I need.
My original old, yellowed and beat up tanks were quite sturdy and didn't
deform so I knew good ones were out there someplace.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&clickid=redire
ct
75001 heavyweight carboy
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 12:23 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
> Group,
>
> More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
> If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a
search.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Welch
>
>
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- Bob- These say not to use for fuels or oils.- Is that something the l
awyer put in?
-
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ll Sullivan
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Mike, -I replaced my tanks this past spring with a pair that I thought wo
uld be decent. -They did have a good raised boss-
that I used for the vent lines. -Unfortunately they distorted more than I
was comfortable with.
I ran them to the end of the season.
I sourced another supplier for another pair. -I have them now and they lo
ok very sturdy, substantial and rigid.
-no guarantee how they will react to heat and pressure but I'm optimistic.
They are only 5 gal tanks but that is all I need.
My original old, yellowed and beat up tanks were quite sturdy and didn't de
form so I knew good ones were out there someplace.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&clickid=redirec
t
75001 heavyweight carboy
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 12:23 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
Group,
-
- More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a search.
-
-
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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Bill, sounds likely.
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 1:25 PM, william sullivan wrote:
> Bob- These say not to use for fuels or oils. Is that something the
lawyer put in?
>
> Bill Sullivan
>
> --- On Thu, 12/9/10, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010, 1:12 PM
>
> Mike, I replaced my tanks this past spring with a pair that I thought
would be decent. They did have a good raised boss
> that I used for the vent lines. Unfortunately they distorted more
than I was comfortable with.
> I ran them to the end of the season.
>
> I sourced another supplier for another pair. I have them now and they
look very sturdy, substantial and rigid.
> -no guarantee how they will react to heat and pressure but I'm
optimistic.
> They are only 5 gal tanks but that is all I need.
>
> My original old, yellowed and beat up tanks were quite sturdy and
didn't deform so I knew good ones were out there someplace.
>
>
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&clickid=redire
ct
>
> 75001 heavyweight carboy
> BB
>
>
> On 9, Dec 2010, at 12:23 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
>
>> Group,
>>
>> More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank
vendor.
>> If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a
search.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Welch
>>
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I have had good luck buying off of E-Bay..... Try a search for Nalgene Carboy and
you will find 5 gallon HDPE Tanks, I have not bought from this site but have
been told that they have good tanks
http://www.usplastic.com
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Phantom
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http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/default.aspx?catid=578&parentcatid=838
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Mike this is where I got my 10 Gallon tanks from they are very good qualit
y and thicker material I installed one of these in my old firestar and I
installed two in my MK3C
I am very Happy with my fuel tanks
http://www.air-techinc.com/catlist.asp?categoryID=fueltanks&typ=fuel
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 12:23 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Group,
More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a search
.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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that supplier makes tanks for water the link I sent makes a super tank for
fuel that will not deform or split on you
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Bob- These say not to use for fuels or oils. Is that something the lawy
er put in?
Bill Sullivan
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Mike, I replaced my tanks this past spring with a pair that I thought wou
ld be decent. They did have a good raised boss
that I used for the vent lines. Unfortunately they distorted more than I
was comfortable with.
I ran them to the end of the season.
I sourced another supplier for another pair. I have them now and they loo
k very sturdy, substantial and rigid.
-no guarantee how they will react to heat and pressure but I'm optimistic.
They are only 5 gal tanks but that is all I need.
My original old, yellowed and beat up tanks were quite sturdy and didn't
deform so I knew good ones were out there someplace.
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&clickid=redire
ct
75001 heavyweight carboy
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 12:23 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
Group,
More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a search
.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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Ellery, which one are you referring to? The big white rectangular one
looks like it might not fit in the conventional
MkIII spot.
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 6:50 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
> Mike this is where I got my 10 Gallon tanks from they are very good
quality and thicker material I installed one of these in my old firestar
and I installed two in my MK3C
> I am very Happy with my fuel tanks
>
> http://www.air-techinc.com/catlist.asp?categoryID=fueltanks&typ=fuel
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 12:23 pm
> Subject: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
>
> Group,
>
> More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
> If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a
search.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike Welch
>
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the FU825 of 86.00 each the other one just comes with the straps and not
worth the money
is the ones I use
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 7:16 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Ellery, which one are you referring to? The big white rectangular one loo
ks like it might not fit in the conventional
MkIII spot.
BB
On 9, Dec 2010, at 6:50 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
Mike this is where I got my 10 Gallon tanks from they are very good qualit
y and thicker material I installed one of these in my old firestar and I
installed two in my MK3C
I am very Happy with my fuel tanks
http://www.air-techinc.com/catlist.asp?categoryID=fueltanks&typ=fuel
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 9, 2010 12:23 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: HDPE tanks
Group,
More than a year ago someone posted a link to a plastic tank vendor.
If you have that link, could you repost it, I can't find it doing a search
.
Thanks,
Mike Welch
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From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
I have two 5 gallon Kolb plastic tanks that came with my kit. If anyone wants them
make an offer. I have aluminum tanks that I use.
Ron @ KFHU
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