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1. 03:37 AM - Re: Happy First Flight Day (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:00 AM - Re: Happy First Flight Day (Thom Riddle)
3. 06:41 AM - Re: Happy First Flight Day (PCKing)
4. 07:28 AM - Re: Happy First Flight Day (b young)
5. 08:26 AM - Re: Richard Pearse (Pat Ladd)
6. 08:49 AM - Re: Richard Pearse (Richard Neilsen)
7. 11:15 AM - Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Dennis Thate)
8. 02:13 PM - Re: Firestar for sale (Chris_A)
9. 02:33 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Dana Hague)
10. 02:44 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Richard Girard)
11. 02:54 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Jack B. Hart)
12. 03:05 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Dennis Thate)
13. 03:07 PM - Re: Kolb/Rotax503 Question (william sullivan)
14. 03:10 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (robert bean)
15. 03:25 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Richard Neilsen)
16. 03:50 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Richard Neilsen)
17. 03:52 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (zeprep251@aol.com)
18. 04:49 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Dana Hague)
19. 04:49 PM - Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question (Dana Hague)
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| Subject: | Re: Happy First Flight Day |
just remember the Wrights were English in origin>>
Hi Ron,
I thought you all were, well at least European which is the next best thing.
Goodnight Dick!
Cheers mate
have a good Christmas (Starting to snow again. Looks like 2 for Christmas
instead of the planned 10) Ho Ho Ho
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Happy First Flight Day |
Pat,
My Kolb is not stealthy and therefore is easily seen on RADAR which all the books
I've read in America on the subject say was invented by the British. So, those
Americans who read reliable sources already know this to be true and don't
need convincing.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan
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| Subject: | Re: Happy First Flight Day |
EAA recently aired a webinar on flight before the Wrights. It discussed
the early pioneers referenced here as well as the French.
www.eaa.org/webinars
Webinars are taped and made available for replay. Click on the archives
button to replay the event. Top off your cup of coffee. It's 84 minutes
long.
PCKing
----- Original Message -----
From: aoldman@xtra.co.nz
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Happy First Flight Day
No Pat not true, I knew you guys got there first . Just think the
world owes
TV to the limmys
Downunder
MK111c
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| Subject: | Re: Happy First Flight Day |
No Pat not true, I knew you guys got there first . Just think the world
owes
TV to the limmys
Downunder
MK111c
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
can we get back to talking about kolbs...
1st i am not sure how this subject line is KOLB related
2nd what ever happened to DO NOT ARCHIVE for messages that don't
benefit kolb enthusiasts.
if a few of you would like to discuss this please do so direct and not
on the list.
on the top of every message is the senders email address,,,, copy &
paste into a new message, PLEASE,,, or am i the only one getting tired
of this subject?
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: Richard Pearse |
Pat you forget Icarus the greek! He was the first, wasn't it Leo Da Vinci
who was there too among the giants, of course there was the first Rocketeer
Eliyja in Biblical times. >>
Hi Ron,
you are obviously enjoying this exchange as much as I am.
Publicity is all. There is nothing like dying or being killed to get
publicity and this is a prime example. Daedalus built the wings and flew
succesfully. Icarus wouldn`t do what his Dad told him (plus ca change) and
died. Who gets remembered? Icarus..
Leonardo would probably have made it if he had a power source. As would many
others of course but he would have been way ahead. Eliyja the rocketeer is
a new one and sounds like like something from Velikovsky( Worlds in chaos)
or Daniken(Chariots of the Gods)
Its all a lottery. Who invented the gramophone? Edison. No he didn`t . He
invented the phonograph. Emile Berliner (who?) invented the gramophone..
I think we should go back to discussing the advantages of straight split
pins against cirular ones or a comparison of different makes of oil before
we are set upon by the big bad selfappointed guardian of the sanctity and
purity of the Kolb List.
Snowing again. Temps down to 17C below last night. Unheard of in this part
of the South of England since records began in 1911.. I can remember about
1948 we had birds falling out of the air, dying in flight, haven`t seen
that this time.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Richard Pearse |
OK..... Please Kolb ONLY!!!!!
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Pat you forget Icarus the greek! He was the first, wasn't it Leo Da Vinci
> who was there too among the giants, of course there was the first Rocketeer
> Eliyja in Biblical times. >>
>
> Hi Ron,
> you are obviously enjoying this exchange as much as I am.
>
> Publicity is all. There is nothing like dying or being killed to get
> publicity and this is a prime example. Daedalus built the wings and flew
> succesfully. Icarus wouldn`t do what his Dad told him (plus ca change) and
> died. Who gets remembered? Icarus..
> Leonardo .......
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| Subject: | Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kolb Firestar
II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is this ...can
I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to do this to make
it legal?
If I'm able to do this, I would appreciate some expert advice.
Thanks,
Dennis
--------
Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard
Shaw
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar for sale |
Sold!
For future sales price reference, I got my asking price.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
At 02:12 PM 12/20/2010, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
>The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kolb
>Firestar II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is
>this ...can I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to
>do this to make it legal?
You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental
aircraft. Anybody can legally work on it.
-Dana
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Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Anyone can work on an experimental aircraft, you just can't do the annual
conditional inspection without some kind of certificate.
This is an easy job to do, after you do it the first time. Take a picture o
f
the assembly before you take anything apart so you'll have something to
refer to when reassembling.
The hardest thing on both is to compress the springs, especially the
starting carburetor (choke), when reassembling. Once your fingers are
trained it hold the springs in compression while you guide the cable stop
into its pocket you're set.
While you're doing the carburetors be sure and check the condition of the
needles and clips. The needle should not spin in the clip. If the clip is
loose you can tweak it with a pair of pliers, if the needle land is worn,
replace the needle and clip.
Get your new grommets from JBM, they're better than the Rotax. After
everything is back together smear a little lithium grease around the
grommets to keep them supple and make them last a little longer.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrote
:
>
> The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kol
b
> Firestar II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is th
is
> ...can I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to do th
is
> to make it legal?
> If I'm able to do this, I would appreciate some expert advice.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
> --------
> =91=91Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance.=92
=92 George
> Bernard Shaw
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323923#323923
>
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Zulu Delta
Kolb Mk IIIC
582 Gray head
4.00 C gearbox
3 blade WD
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unabl
e
to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong.
- G.K. Chesterton
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
>
You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental aircraft.
Anybody can legally work on it.
>
Dana,
Might this only apply to the owner who built the experimental aircraft?
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
http://www.121five.com/admin/FeatureArticles/Owner%20Performed%20Aircraft%20Maintenance.pdf
It's an Experimental, but I didn't build it myself.
Regarding Maintenance, if you didn't build it then there is NO difference between
this
aircraft and a Type Certificated Aircraft.
Further more, you are NOT eligible to become a Repairman for this aircraft as you
did
not originally construct it yourself; you can however perform Preventative Maintenance
on this aircraft I.A.W. cfr. 14, FAR 43, Appendix A.
All subsequent Annual Condition Inspections and any associated repair work, can
ONLY
be performed by either an A & P Mechanic, or a Repair Station.
Just want make sure we are all on the same page
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Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. George Bernard
Shaw
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb/Rotax503 Question |
-- Go to the following site on how to do the Bing spring very easily.
- Click on "Bing 54 tips".- Takes all the work out of it.- It's Scott
Olendorf's site.
- http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/home/bing-54-tips
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--------- Bill Sullivan
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--------- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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----------FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Nope any old hammer mechanic or drunk off the street can work on it. The inspection,
however,
limits it to owner with repairman auth for that particular craft OR any sodden
old A&P lured in with a tasty ale or two.
BB
On 20, Dec 2010, at 5:51 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote:
>
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 17:14:30 -0500
> From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
>>
> You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental aircraft.
> Anybody can legally work on it.
>>
>
> Dana,
>
> Might this only apply to the owner who built the experimental aircraft?
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Dana
That isn't entirely true.
The rule for a experimental airplane is you can as the builder get a
repairman's ccertificate to do your own work on the plane you built. A non
builder needs to get a A & P to at least sign off on the work. A LSA
armature built airplane needs to have the owner of the plane certified by
one of those one week classes to do the work or again get a A & P to sign
off on the work.
With that said there is some minor work that can be done on your own
airplane even production certified aircraft. I don't know the exact
definition of what that work is. You need to consult the regulations for the
exact rule. I would think the grommets might fall in this area but?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
> At 02:12 PM 12/20/2010, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
>
> The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kolb
> Firestar II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is this
> ...can I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to do this
> to make it legal?
>
>
> You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental aircraft.
> Anybody can legally work on it.
>
> -Dana
>
>
> --
> Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now.
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Opps... may have been someone else.
Also if it is a true ultralight then all bets are off and anyone can work on
them since it isn't considered a airplane.
Rick Neilsen
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>wrote:
> Dana
>
> That isn't entirely true.
>
> The rule for a experimental airplane is you can as the builder get a
> repairman's ccertificate to do your own work on the plane you built. A non
> builder needs to get a A & P to at least sign off on the work. A LSA
> armature built airplane needs to have the owner of the plane certified by
> one of those one week classes to do the work or again get a A & P to sign
> off on the work.
>
> With that said there is some minor work that can be done on your own
> airplane even production certified aircraft. I don't know the exact
> definition of what that work is. You need to consult the regulations for the
> exact rule. I would think the grommets might fall in this area but?
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> At 02:12 PM 12/20/2010, Dennis Thate wrote:
>>
>>
>> The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kolb
>> Firestar II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is this
>> ...can I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to do this
>> to make it legal?
>>
>>
>> You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental aircraft.
>> Anybody can legally work on it.
>>
>> -Dana
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off now.
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Rick,
In a way, I think he is correct.You take the 16 hr course and you can do yo
ur own condition inspections.Anyone can do the work on E-LSA.If you built i
t,now it would be E-AB and you can get the cert by applying for it.No more
E-LSA's,that should make the few out there more desirable.But are cable boo
ts a major repair?Just be sure to use JBM boots so you only have to do it o
nce.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb / Rotax503 Question
Dana
That isn't entirely true.
The rule for a experimental airplane is you can as the builder get a repair
man's ccertificate to do your own work on the plane you built. A non builde
r needs to get a A & P to at least sign off on the work. A LSA armature bui
lt airplane needs to have the owner of the plane certified by one of those
one week classes to do the work or again get a A & P to sign off on the wor
k.
With that said there is some minor work that can be done on your own airpla
ne even production certified aircraft. I don't know the exact definition of
what that work is. You need to consult the regulations for the exact rule.
I would think the grommets might fall in this area but?
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
At 02:12 PM 12/20/2010, Dennis Thate wrote:
The grommets on my throttle/ choke cables are all cracking on my 2006 Kolb
Firestar II. I'm the second owner of this aircraft, so my question is this
...can I replace these cable grommets myself or do I need an A&P to do thi
s to make it legal?
You don't need an A&P to do _any_ work on any experimental aircraft. Anybo
dy can legally work on it.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Jack, Rick,
Technically, the FARs don't even require an annual inspection for an
experimental aircraft, but the operating limitations almost always specify
an annual "condition inspection" to be performed by an A&P. To do regular
maintenance, or even major alterations, on an experimental aircraft you
don't need anything:
=A7 43.1 Applicability.
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (d) of this section, this part
prescribes rules governing the maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, and alteration of any=97
(1) Aircraft having a U.S. airworthiness certificate;
(2) Foreign-registered civil aircraft used in common carriage or carriage
of mail under the provisions of Part 121 or 135 of this chapter; and
(3) Airframe, aircraft engines, propellers, appliances, and component parts
of such aircraft.
(b) This part does not apply to=97
(1) Any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate,
unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness
certificate for that aircraft...
See also <http://www.wanttaja.com/avlinks/MAINT.HTM>.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb / Rotax503 Question |
Jack, Rick,
Technically, the FARs don't even require an annual inspection for an
experimental aircraft, but the operating limitations almost always specify
an annual "condition inspection" to be performed by an A&P. To do regular
maintenance, or even major alterations, on an experimental aircraft you
don't need anything:
=A7 43.1 Applicability.
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (d) of this section, this part
prescribes rules governing the maintenance, preventive maintenance,
rebuilding, and alteration of any=97
(1) Aircraft having a U.S. airworthiness certificate;
(2) Foreign-registered civil aircraft used in common carriage or carriage
of mail under the provisions of Part 121 or 135 of this chapter; and
(3) Airframe, aircraft engines, propellers, appliances, and component parts
of such aircraft.
(b) This part does not apply to=97
(1) Any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate,
unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness
certificate for that aircraft...
See also <http://www.wanttaja.com/avlinks/MAINT.HTM>.
-Dana
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