---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/25/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:16 AM - Garmin 196 (Watkinsdw) 2. 10:31 AM - Christmas Day flight (Eddie) 3. 10:31 AM - Sonex or GP VW. (Ron @ KFHU) 4. 10:48 AM - Re: 912 Tach Malfunction (Ron @ KFHU) 5. 10:50 AM - Re: Christmas Day flight (John Hauck) 6. 11:22 AM - Re: WTT: Kawasaki KLR 650 for Kolb (Luke) 7. 11:33 AM - Re: Christmas Day flight (Arksey@aol.com) 8. 11:40 AM - Re: Sonex or GP VW. (Richard Neilsen) 9. 11:57 AM - Re: Re: WTT: Kawasaki KLR 650 for Kolb (John Hauck) 10. 12:08 PM - Re: Christmas Day flight (Ron @ KFHU) 11. 12:13 PM - Re: Off Topic - Looking for geared AC motor (Richard Girard) 12. 12:23 PM - Re: Sonex or GP VW. (Ron @ KFHU) 13. 01:04 PM - Re: Christmas Day flight (Eddie) 14. 04:50 PM - Re: Sonex or GP VW. (robert bean) 15. 04:55 PM - xmas video (Eddie) 16. 04:57 PM - Re: Christmas Day flight (robert bean) 17. 04:58 PM - xmas flight (Eddie) 18. 06:25 PM - Re: Christmas Day flight (Dennis Thate) 19. 07:55 PM - Re: Sonex or GP VW. (Richard Neilsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:14 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Garmin 196 From: "Watkinsdw" Here's the listing from Steven Green. He reads the list, but can't post for some technical reason: Garmin 196, excellent condition, all mounts, manuals, cables, and pieces that came with it are included in the original box. Also includes V Flite interactive Guide for the 196. Database is not current. $350 + shipping costs. Phone 423-368-0823 I have a 196, and it works great for me. Have it wired into the panel, which saves batteries. Merry Christmas to all, Dave Mk III C Rotax 912 uls Pompano Beach, FL (KPMP) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324457#324457 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:26 AM PST US From: "Eddie" Subject: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight Merry Christmas to all on the list Took my mk111 up for a quick fly around today and thought you may like to see a few pictures of a snowy cold ( by our standards anyway ) minus 11 merseyside in the uk Eddie mk111c rotax 582 arplast 62" 3 blade ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:26 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Kolb-List: Sonex or GP VW. Good for you there ain't no cure like piloting your own airplane. If I knew then what I know now I would have bought a VW conversion and would have had my M3X flying already. Its hard to convert a car motor when I am busy with a million other things and have very little time. I may still go and get a Sonex VW as the end cost of the Suzuki conversion even from this point forward may be high enough to justify a Sonex or GP VW. A nice motor option is the Simonini Victor 2 super, but like the Hirth over ten grand is simply nuts to spend on that ( with my budget ) . --------------------------------- ---- John Hauck wrote: ============ Good Point John. We all need to support the New Kolb Aircraft Company. They need us , and we need them! Merry Christmas Dennis Dennis T/Gang: Let me update you a little. There is no "The New Kolb Aircraft Company". Not sure of their official name but I believe it is "Kolb Company". Brian wanted his company to look, taste, and smell, like Homer Kolb's aircraft company. He named it "Kolb Company, Inc." I may not be exact on the company name, but Travis Brown can correct me if I am wrong. Brian wants to build and kit airplanes that Homer designed, not fast, slick, pretty LSA's that fly 120 kts and cost 120,000.00 dollars. John Hauck MKIII Titus, Alabama - Got some air time yesterday. Still flying my mkIII with a 8 months of barn dust and bug/bird crap on it. Amazing how well Kolbs fly in any condition. I flew over to Wetumpka Airport to get 10 gal of 100LL. I am not flying much, just yet, and avgas stores much better than mogas and alcohol. -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:05 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: 912 Tach Malfunction I think that ought to fix it if it's not a simple wire connection. I would add that ACF-50 or Corrosion-X would be the magic potion. ACF-50 or corrosion-X are truly magical. I use both in my airplane cars and motorcycle and any other place that has electrical stuff. These potions are simply amazing. I'd use them on my joints if I could figure out how. A caution though, do not use them anywhere near the wheels. I had some corrosion discoloring on my car wheels and thought I'd use Corrosion-X to get rid of it. The stuff is so powerfully dielectric that it migrated to the studs and the frigging wheels loosened up. It may be funny but it ain't if you are on your way to Tucson and you get vibration to chatter your teeth loose. So don't use that stuff near bolts unless they are cotter'd or safety wired, especially on a vibrating airplane. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:04 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight Merry Christmas to all on the list Took my mk111 up for a quick fly around today and thought you may like to see a few pictures of a snowy cold ( by our standards anyway ) minus 11 merseyside in the uk Eddie mk111c rotax 582 arplast 62" 3 blade Eddie/Gang: Merry Christmas to you and all the rest of the Kolb gang in the UK. You too, Patrick L. ;-) Never seen more beautiful Kolb photos, especially on Christmas Day, on and over the snow covered English countryside. Thanks for sharing with us. It is refreshing to see and read about a Kolber that braves weather like this to fly and take pictures. I like this much better than reading about buying motorcycles and searching for totally non-Kolb related items. Please help us keep the Kolb List about Kolbs. Thanks, folks. Take care, john h mkIII hauck's holler, alabama ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: WTT: Kawasaki KLR 650 for Kolb From: "Luke" Thanks for the reply but I'm looking for a trade instead of selling. -------- "The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name." Exodus 15:3 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324480#324480 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:29 AM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight Thanks Eddie for posting the pic's, enjoyed them. That is about the same snow cover that we now have here in Southern Michigan.. Merry Christmas and Happy new years to you . Jim Swan Do not archive FIRESTAR ll 503 Michigan jswan GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ph. 517-663-8488 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:33 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sonex or GP VW. From: Richard Neilsen Ron The Sonex VW engine or AeroVee is a direct drive engine. You can't mount the Valley redrive on that engine. You wouldn't be happy with a direct drive VW on a Kolb. If money is your concern get a dune buggy log block engine and put GP parts on it. You can also use some of the AreoVee stuff but the main thing is avoid the direct drive extended nose crank shafts. Rick Neilsen 1st redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote: > > Good for you there ain't no cure like piloting your own airplane. If I knew > then what I know now I would have bought a VW conversion and would have had > my M3X flying already. Its hard to convert a car motor when I am busy with a > million other things and have very little time. I may still go and get a > Sonex VW as the end cost of the Suzuki conversion even from this point > forward may be high enough to justify a Sonex or GP VW. > A nice motor option is the Simonini Victor 2 super, but like the Hirth over > ten grand is simply nuts to spend on that ( with my budget ) . > > --------------------------------- > > ---- John Hauck wrote: > > ============ > > > Good Point John. We all need to support the New Kolb Aircraft Company. > They need us , and we need them! > > Merry Christmas > Dennis > > > Dennis T/Gang: > > Let me update you a little. > > There is no "The New Kolb Aircraft Company". > > Not sure of their official name but I believe it is "Kolb Company". Brian > wanted his company to look, taste, and smell, like Homer Kolb's aircraft > company. He named it "Kolb Company, Inc." I may not be exact on the > company name, but Travis Brown can correct me if I am wrong. > > Brian wants to build and kit airplanes that Homer designed, not fast, > slick, > pretty LSA's that fly 120 kts and cost 120,000.00 dollars. > > John Hauck > MKIII > Titus, Alabama - Got some air time yesterday. Still flying my mkIII with a > 8 months of barn dust and bug/bird crap on it. Amazing how well Kolbs fly > in any condition. I flew over to Wetumpka Airport to get 10 gal of 100LL. > I am not flying much, just yet, and avgas stores much better than mogas and > alcohol. > > > -- > kugelair.com > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:09 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: WTT: Kawasaki KLR 650 for Kolb Thanks for the reply but I'm looking for a trade instead of selling. Luke/Gang: I am fully aware that you were looking for a trade. Hopefully, you will find a good one. Kolbs are hard to beat when it comes to building and flying. Merry Christmas, john h mkIII Titus, Alabama - One member among many. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:36 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight That dude in the Trike must be freezing his bazooky's off. Nice pix where were they taken? ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:13:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Off Topic - Looking for geared AC motor From: Richard Girard Jerry, Try Surplus Center, I get a lot of things from them for shop projects. Be sure and take note of stock on hand if you don't plan to order right away, they could be out by the time you get back to them. https://www.surpluscenter.com/home.asp Rick Girard On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 11:10 PM, jerb wrote: > > Hey folks there are a lot of resources on these list. Anyone have or know > of a source for an surplus (cheap is good) geared down 120V AC motor of > 1/4-1/3 HP. Inline or right angle gear box will work - need a shaft output > of around 20-43 (desired) or 80-100 RPM. This in not for an aviation > orientated project. I can't justify the cost of a new unit for its intended > use. > > If so please email direct. Thanks, > jerryb > > -- Zulu Delta Kolb Mk IIIC 582 Gray head 4.00 C gearbox 3 blade WD Thanks, Homer GBYM It is not bigotry to be certain we are right; but it is bigotry to be unable to imagine how we might possibly have gone wrong. - G.K. Chesterton ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:44 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sonex or GP VW. Rick I went to one of the prop sites where they have that Mach number calculator for the prop speed. It showed that the tips on the 68 inch blade will not go supersonic at full power I think it was 3400 rpm direct drive. Why wouldn't it work? You have one on your Kolb with an RDU do you have a photo in Profile that I can look at? I want to see what your install looks like. Are you happy with your aircraft performance wise? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:19 PM PST US From: "Eddie" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight Thanks for the Nice comments ( All who did ) The dude in the Trike is actually My nephew and his girlfriend .Pics where taken just north of Liverpool in the Uk. We fly from Ince Blundell 53 32N 03 02W http://www.wlms.co.uk/directions.htm a microlight (ultralight) flying club and school are based there My nephew is one of the instructors While we were up I got about 30 mins of video as well and will put that on you tube when I edit out the worst of the shaky bits . Christmas day here is the one day of the year that John lennon airport is closed so we Contacted Manchester airport and got permission to fly up the river Mersey as far as the City center to the Liver Buildings. that is the Video and may be of interest to you . We had a great flight but was a bit iffy landing on an icy snowed up runway ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sonex or GP VW. From: robert bean It would appear that even if the 68" prop didn't go supersonic there would be a drag loss that increases with RPM. -however, with regard to Rick N and his real experiences, a VW engine could be built with direct drive that would be a decent performer. The key consideration would be to ignore the obvious impulse to go big bore. The only way to get good low rpm performance out of direct drive is with a stroke larger than the bore. A long stroke gives a a higher piston velocity for equivalent rpm. - in other words, simulating higher rpm without actually having higher rpm. A "case in point" is the Case tractor engine which also has a very long stroke and huge torque. ( I have a Case 530) So if you build a VW engine for aircraft use, use the stoutest stock cylinders available and the longest forged stroker crank you can find. Don't believe me? Be my guest. BB On 25, Dec 2010, at 3:20 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote: > > Rick I went to one of the prop sites where they have that Mach number calculator for the prop speed. It showed that the tips on the 68 inch blade will not go supersonic at full power I think it was 3400 rpm direct drive. Why wouldn't it work? > You have one on your Kolb with an RDU do you have a photo in Profile that I can look at? I want to see what your install looks like. > Are you happy with your aircraft performance wise? > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:50 PM PST US From: "Eddie" Subject: Kolb-List: xmas video to follow the pictures here is a link to the video of my flight today ( for those who are interested ) thanks to Nick Marciano who manned the camera while I was keeping lookout for enough space along the dockside for landing areas incase it all went quiet ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:57:04 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Christmas Day flight Eddie, very pretty. Looks just like home. BB New York State do not archive On 25, Dec 2010, at 1:33 PM, Eddie wrote: > Merry Christmas to all on the list > Took my mk111 up for a quick fly around today and thought you may like to see a few pictures of a snowy cold ( by our standards anyway ) minus 11 > merseyside in the uk > > Eddie > mk111c > rotax 582 > arplast 62" 3 blade > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:58:12 PM PST US From: "Eddie" Subject: Kolb-List: xmas flight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLeBNLTEwEE oops be a good idea to actually send the link dont you think, I plead tiredness and a bit too much xmas cheer when I got home ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:27 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Christmas Day flight From: "Dennis Thate" Thanks for the cool tour of your country. Life must be easy there by the prime meridian. Never any difficult math. :) -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324517#324517 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Sonex or GP VW. From: Richard Neilsen Ron I know I checked those sites before I installed a 60" prop on my direct drive VW. I do know and my neighbors know a mile away that the tips went supersonic at around 2900 RPM and at 3500 the racket was bad! The performance difference between my direct drive VW and the redrive VW engine was dramatic. You all ways seem to want more but yes it is working well. I have flown with up to 450 lbs in the seats of my MKIIIC and climb power wasn't an issue. Great Plains did some testing that showed almost twice the static thrust. Some have said that this only helps in slow speed airplanes but the more I learn the more I feel that redrives help even in faster airplanes. A recent article in an EAA magazine talked about setting a speed record with a redrive Rotax 912 in a Soneray. Also I'm currently flying a SportCruiser that has a 100 HP 912 in it that I have to throttle back to 4000 RPM to get it to slow to 80KTS in the pattern. I haven't had a chance to check out high cruise speeds yet but it is fast. I'm sure the reduction drive is a key to some of the speed. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Ron @ KFHU wrote: > > Rick I went to one of the prop sites where they have that Mach number > calculator for the prop speed. It showed that the tips on the 68 inch blade > will not go supersonic at full power I think it was 3400 rpm direct drive. > Why wouldn't it work? > You have one on your Kolb with an RDU do you have a photo in Profile that I > can look at? I want to see what your install looks like. > Are you happy with your aircraft performance wise? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.