---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/17/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:14 AM - Re: Pitot static port location (Thom Riddle) 2. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Pitot static port location (Mike Welch) 3. 04:26 PM - Flying the Tallapoosa (John Hauck) 4. 06:03 PM - Re: Flying the Tallapoosa (chris davis) 5. 06:54 PM - Re: Flying the Tallapoosa (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 6. 07:09 PM - Re: Flying the Tallapoosa (John Hauck) 7. 07:31 PM - Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (ces308) 8. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (John Hauck) 9. 08:03 PM - Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (ces308) 10. 08:11 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (John Hauck) 11. 08:24 PM - Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (ces308) 12. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow (Ellery Batchelder Jr) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:14:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Pitot static port location From: "Thom Riddle" I have had good success in changing the pressure seen by the static ports using a dab of RTV either fore or aft of the port. My current Slingshot setup has the dural pitot/static tubes mounted below the nose cone with an extender for the pitot mounted flexibly and going out about six inches forward of the nose. My static tube has a Tee in side the cockpit so it is sensing both the pressure outside the at the static port and under the panel. With this setup, it reads TAS on the ASI at about 2,000' - 2,500' density altitude. Speaking of density altitude, I calculated it this morning and here at KBUF, the DA at 7 AM was -3,675'. Coldest yet this winter here at 1 degree.... but clear skies for a change and low winds. About -4F at my house. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful. Ann Landers Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327273#327273 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:17 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Pitot static port location > Speaking of density altitude=2C I calculated it this morning and here at KBUF=2C the DA at 7 AM was -3=2C675'. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo=2C NY (9G0) > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x32 Hi Thom=2C Thanks for the pitot info. -3=2C675' density altitude?? I think even Capt Nemo would have trouble f lying at that level!! (think about it=2C it'll come to you) BTW=2C thanks for the pitot comments=2C everyone=2C but I think I'll pro ceed with what I mentioned previously (2 side ports=2C etc=2C etc.) If that design n eeds some adjustment=2C then I'll work on it later. Cheers!! Mike Welch ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa From: "John Hauck" Hi Folks: I sent some posts to the Kolb List earlier, each with a photo attached. That was three hours ago. Still no posts. If I resend, the old posts will arrive. ***************************************************** Hi Folks: Got to fly a little yesterday, in addition to washing Miss P'fer for the first time in 9 months. She is 50 lbs lighter now. Was a beautiful Sunday afternoon, just a little wind out of the NW. I flew the Tallapoosa River, not far from Wetumpka Airport. My son, Mike, was going to be running the river in his jon boat. Found Mike and his buddy on a short, rough sand bar. Too short and rough, I chose a gravel bar up stream about a half mile. Now that I have the first gravel bar out of the way, the next one will be a lot more fun and not nearly as intimidating as this one was. That was my first off field landing since the first part of last year. I have only logged 3 hours air time since 10 May 2010. Does my mkIII fly any better clean? Couldn't really tell any difference. john h mkIII - 3,012.8 hours (airframe) 912ULS - 444.3 hours (engine) hauck's holler Titus, Alabama -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327349#327349 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture044_1_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture042_2_971.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture038_2_192.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture037_1_112.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:26 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa Nice pics John, makes me wish I was down south ,23 degrees for a high here today 65 in O'brien looks like it finally warmed up where you are ? Chris Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ----- Original Message ---- From: John Hauck Sent: Mon, January 17, 2011 7:23:36 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa Hi Folks: I sent some posts to the Kolb List earlier, each with a photo attached. That was three hours ago. Still no posts. If I resend, the old posts will arrive. ***************************************************** Hi Folks: Got to fly a little yesterday, in addition to washing Miss P'fer for the first time in 9 months. She is 50 lbs lighter now. Was a beautiful Sunday afternoon, just a little wind out of the NW. I flew the Tallapoosa River, not far from Wetumpka Airport. My son, Mike, was going to be running the river in his jon boat. Found Mike and his buddy on a short, rough sand bar. Too short and rough, I chose a gravel bar up stream about a half mile. Now that I have the first gravel bar out of the way, the next one will be a lot more fun and not nearly as intimidating as this one was. That was my first off field landing since the first part of last year. I have only logged 3 hours air time since 10 May 2010. Does my mkIII fly any better clean? Couldn't really tell any difference. john h mkIII - 3,012.8 hours (airframe) 912ULS - 444.3 hours (engine) hauck's holler Titus, Alabama -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327349#327349 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture044_1_151.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture042_2_971.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture038_2_192.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture037_1_112.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:06 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Looks great John Glad to see you back in the saddle again posting all the great pics of all your flying adventures But I have to ask where did you ditch the 50 lbs I hope it wasn't just the grime you washed off your airplane Cold weather is really biting us here in Maine now so I probably wont be flying for a while -15 degrees this morning Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: John Hauck Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 7:23 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa Hi Folks: I sent some posts to the Kolb List earlier, each with a photo attached. That as three hours ago. Still no posts. If I resend, the old posts will arrive. ***************************************************** Hi Folks: Got to fly a little yesterday, in addition to washing Miss P'fer for the irst time in 9 months. She is 50 lbs lighter now. Was a beautiful Sunday afternoon, just a little wind out of the NW. I fle w he Tallapoosa River, not far from Wetumpka Airport. My son, Mike, was oing to be running the river in his jon boat. Found Mike and his buddy on short, rough sand bar. Too short and rough, I chose a gravel bar up tream about a half mile. Now that I have the first gravel bar out of the ay, the next one will be a lot more fun and not nearly as intimidating as his one was. hat was my first off field landing since the first part of last year. I ave only logged 3 hours air time since 10 May 2010. Does my mkIII fly any better clean? Couldn't really tell any difference. john h kIII - 3,012.8 hours (airframe) 12ULS - 444.3 hours (engine) auck's holler itus, Alabama -------- ohn Hauck KIII/912ULS auck's holler, alabama ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327349#327349 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture044_1_151.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/picture042_2_971.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/picture038_2_192.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/picture037_1_112.jpg -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:05 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flying the Tallapoosa Looks great John Glad to see you back in the saddle again posting all the great pics of all your flying adventures But I have to ask where did you ditch the 50 lbs I hope it wasn't just the grime you washed off your airplane Ellery Batchelder Jr. Ellery B/Chris D/Gang: Weather got better here for a few days. Supposed to start raining tonight and get cold again here. Glad I was able to get out and do some flying while it was nice. Washed 50 lbs of crud off the mkIII after sitting in the hanger on the farm for 9 months. Last time I washed her was just before Sun and Fun 2010. Got word it was in the 50's at Larry Cottrell's Rock House. Looks like warmer days are coming for Alabama. ;-) john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:10 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow From: "ces308" Gary and Thom.... I think you hit the nail on the head with crank case pressure....I thought it was ok,then I got thinking last night ( I work nights so I had 12 hrs to think about it ) and I got looking at the videos I made and the dates I made them,then went to the weather channel and matched up outside temps for the days it flew and the days it quit and the days it ran good the temps were 32+ and the days it quit temps were 10 - 18 *.With a closer look today I believe the vent tube was freezing up blocking off the venting of the case,The original catch cup I had was loose fitting and starting to come apart so this summer I made a new one with fittings in the top and a screw on cap for security and it worked great in warmer temps ,but maybe not so good in the winter months.I will try to run it tomorrow and will let you know how it goes...It all makes sense now and why after everything we did it all came back to the same thing ! Thanks Thom and Gary ! I would not have considered this Knowing how simple the system is...from now on I check this first, fuel pressure will now be monitored all the time now.... and I should have known this too! I will let you know for sure tomorrow! ps...this is the picture of the catch can...i removed the Brillo pad that was getting deteriorated and replaced it with paper toweling to soak up any moisture and oil...I am back using A Brillo coarse mesh pad again and I think I'm going to use larger diameter tubing too..when I took it apart you could see where the toweling was right up against the in-coming and out going openings... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327369#327369 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1291_214.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:33 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow ps...this is the picture of the catch can chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru Chris A/Gang: Is it mandatory to use a large catch can? or can you configure the breather hose to dump overboard? Does the engine blow that much oil through the breather? or is the catch can also the air/oil seperator? john h mkIII titus, alabama ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow From: "ces308" John, It's more of an air/oil separator...this is where the moisture gets out of the engine and without it it would make an annoying mess on the tail...the one I had on last year had the Brillo pad in it and was not as tight as this one is...maybe I made it too good ! chris ambrose Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327372#327372 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:10 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow It's more of an air/oil separator...this is where the moisture gets out of the engine and without it it would make an annoying mess on the tail...the one I had on last year had the Brillo pad in it and was not as tight as this one is...maybe I made it too good ! chris ambrose Chris A: Does Jabiru provide an air/oil seperator? or do you have to provide one of your own design? john h mkIII Titus, AL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:33 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow From: "ces308" John, make your own... chris ambrose Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327374#327374 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Chris I have installed and flown two of the same Jabiru engines you have the 2200 I didnt get a big mess out of them and I would run that tube dow n through the tail boom and out to the end of the rudder it if was making that kind of a mess on the tail or I am willing to make you an aluminum Can just for that crank case vent if you would like with a petcock in the bottom of it so you can drain it on pre flights Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: ces308 Sent: Mon, Jan 17, 2011 11:22 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb/Jabiru carb overflow John, make your own... chris ambrose ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=327374#327374 ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.