---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/27/11: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:20 AM - test (frank goodnight) 2. 07:47 AM - Re: test (robert bean) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: test (russ kinne) 4. 11:49 AM - Firestar to MK III C transition. (Thumper) 5. 12:41 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Larry Cottrell) 6. 01:35 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (John Hauck) 7. 05:10 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Larry Cottrell) 8. 05:37 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Arksey@aol.com) 9. 07:27 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 10. 08:36 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Larry Cottrell) 11. 10:39 PM - Re: test () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:25 AM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Kolb-List: test =0A=0ATest--------I- think my e-mail is broke.=0AFrank=0A=0Ado not arch ive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:30 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: test must be ok BB do not archive On 27, Jan 2011, at 10:14 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > > Test------- I think my e-mail is broke. > Frank > > do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:04 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: test It got to me! Russ On Jan 27, 2011, at 10:14 AM, frank goodnight wrote: > > Test------- I think my e-mail is broke. > Frank > > do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. From: "Thumper" To all Please give me in the simplest form the major differences between the Firestar I and a MK3C. I have sold my Firestar KX to a fellow in TX and I am buying the MK3C owned by Keith Anderson in Oregon. I intend to get my SP rating and I have an instructor lined up. I have 100+ hours in an Ultrastar and 100+ hours in the Firestar all within the last 2 years. I have been reading the old posts and I am looking for the most important tips you all have for me on this transition. I know I will have to learn the 912 80hp engine but I have plenty of local help for that. Thanks Dennis Long in W. TN. Moving on up. -------- Dennis Long Oakland TN 1990 Kolb Firestar KX 80+ hours since June Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328729#328729 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3297_191.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/plane_kolb_065_136.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:56 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. To all Please give me in the simplest form the major differences between the Firestar I and a MK3C. I have sold my Firestar KX to a fellow in TX and I am buying the MK3C owned by Keith Anderson in Oregon. I am familiar with Keith's plane, and own a Firestar II and have owned a Mark III. If you can fly a Firestar, you shouldn't have any trouble with the Mark III. Its bigger, should be faster, land pretty much the same if not a bit slower, carry more weight. The comparison that I would make is that you are trading a sports car for a van, but you will have more range and can carry more stuff. Should be no problem for you. Larry Oregon Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:10 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. The comparison that I would make is that you are trading a sports car for a van, but you will have more range and can carry more stuff. Should be no problem for you. Larry Larry C/Gang: I agree with Larry. If you can fly one model Kolb, you can fly them all. Since Larry hurt my feelings referring to MKIII's at "vans", I will have to fly circles around him next June, if I can make it back to the Rock House. ;-) Sitting here getting antsier waiting on warm weather and some cross country flying. Last cross country was Sun and Fun 2010. john h MKIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:17 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. Since Larry hurt my feelings referring to MKIII's at "vans", I will have to fly circles around him next June, if I can make it back to the Rock House. ;-) Works for me. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:30 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. In a message dated 1/27/2011 3:42:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lcottrell1020@gmail.com writes: To all Please give me in the simplest form the major differences between the Firestar I and a MK3C. I have sold my Firestar KX to a fellow in TX and I am buying the MK3C owned by Keith Anderson in Oregon. My experience flying Kolb's started with some dual in a MK lll to give me some idea how a Kolb was to fly, I then purchased a Kolb firestar ll and have put a lot of hours on it and enjoy it. I had as with every airplane to get used to some things. This last summer I put a lot of time in a MK lll C and found it to be the same airplane as far as traits as the Firestar. It is a good airplane and you will enjoy it. You need to get used to it, I would suggest spending time just setting in it to become familiar with were things are, spend some time taxing, become familiar with the required speeds, in other words the things you would do when flying any different airplane....I would not fool with the flaps until I had got somewhat used to the plane. I would use no flaps on take off and when I was used to flying the plane then I would deploy the flaps at proper airspeed and with some altitude to get used to them, I would also suggest that upon the lst flight to go up to a safe altitude and do some stalls to find out where the indicated airspeed stall is . I am sure I have repeated a lot of things you already know but it is always good to be reminded. The most important thing is to always fly the airplane', don't let it fly you.... Jim Swan up in cold and snowy Michigan Do not archive FIRESTAR ll 503 Michigan jswan GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ph. 517-663-8488 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. From: Ellery Batchelder Jr I had an Original Firestar (corvette) with a lot of changes to it to reduc e drag I could catch a friend of mine in a PA11 and pass him, I kick my self in the A%# for getting rid of it, and Getting into a MK3C I call (Sl ow Poke) 30 MPH slower than the firestar but fly's the same gets off quick and climbs like a home sick angel The Mk3C has more drag a lot more I hav e been making changes to it to reduce drag . although it has enough room to haul plenty of gear and a chance to give someone a ride. if I can get this MK3C to go like my Firestar I will be happy with it, if not I will probably sell it, I just cant get my self to try to do long cross country s with Ole Slow Poke when I can take the scenic rout and drive there fast er its hard to make a change and lose that much speed for me anyway The firestar Held 10 Gallons of fuel and would sip 2.7 GPH The MK3C Holds 20 Gallons of Fuel and Gulps 6.+ GPH sorry about the long rant You should be all set to jump into it and fly away if you have 100 hours in a firestar though Ellery Batchelder Jr. DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: Thumper Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:47 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. To all lease give me in the simplest form the major differences between the Fires tar I nd a MK3C. I have sold my Firestar KX to a fellow in TX and I am buying the K3C owned by Keith Anderson in Oregon. I intend to get my SP rating and I have n instructor lined up. I have 100+ hours in an Ultrastar and 100+ hours in the irestar all within the last 2 years. I have been reading the old posts an d I m looking for the most important tips you all have for me on this transiti on. I now I will have to learn the 912 80hp engine but I have plenty of local he lp or that. Thanks ennis Long in W. TN. oving on up. -------- ennis Long akland TN 990 Kolb Firestar KX 0+ hours since June ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=328729#328729 ttachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3297_191.jpg ttp://forums.matronics.com//files/plane_kolb_065_136.jpg -======================== ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:10 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar to MK III C transition. I feel the need for a bit of a disclaimer here. The plane that he is buying has a 80 horse 912 on it and if he is getting the whole package, ( trailer and goodies) is getting a good deal. The plane will fly faster than his Firestar, I would expect the cruise to be about 75 to 80 true airspeed, and the 912 is pretty easy on fuel. The Mark III that I had was powered by a 582 and sucked gas. That by the way was the only reason that I got rid of it. Didn't think I could afford a 912. If it had flown like John's Pfer I sure would have kept it. ( Now are you happy, old man?) I am quite sure that you will like the plane and get a lot of enjoyment out of it. If your path goes any where close to here you are welcome to stop by for the night. Klamath Falls is about 6 hours ( 330 miles) from here. 42 40.919 N 117 51 198 W Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:39:30 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: test Found its way to this side of the world OK Downunder MK111c do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.