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1. 07:03 AM - Re: BFR (Beauford)
2. 07:41 AM - Re: BFR (John Hauck)
3. 07:53 AM - Re: BFR (PCKing)
4. 08:55 AM - Re: BFR (robert bean)
5. 10:49 AM - Re: BFR (frank goodnight)
6. 01:28 PM - Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. (Richard Pike)
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Wow...! Are you OK, John...?
.....except for the alimony part, you have come very close to describing my
first wife.... Crazy Louise...
...wonder where 'ol Craze is now....?
do not archive
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Kolbs make one free and alive.
Kolbs do things spam cans can not do.
Kolbs are an adventure.
john h
Kolb builder/pilot
Titus, Alabama
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Beauford, come to think of it, sounds a lot my first wife.
Your first one must have been a hoot!
Anybody know how to compare a 172 to a Kolb? I don't.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
.....except for the alimony part, you have come very close to describing my
first wife.... Crazy Louise...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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John,
You are comparing a full size Buick sedan to a rag top MG TD.
PCKing
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BFR
Beauford, come to think of it, sounds a lot my first wife.
Your first one must have been a hoot!
Anybody know how to compare a 172 to a Kolb? I don't.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
.....except for the alimony part, you have come very close to
describing my
first wife.... Crazy Louise...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Close, but I would prefer an analogy to a VW bug. MG TDs had a
reliability problem.
The 172 is a fine airplane but these days cost a bunch to own and fly.
-besides needing WAY too much runway.
What always perplexed me were the guys who would sign one out at the
local FBO to fly SOLO on saturday morning.???
150s were cheaper and did the same thing. An 85 hp 140 will run right
alongside a 172 and consume much less fuel.
I guess some guys just like to cruise down the expressway in a Buick.
BB
(I only had a first wife. There isn't any replacement)
On 29, Jan 2011, at 10:50 AM, PCKing wrote:
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> John,
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> You are comparing a full size Buick sedan to a rag top MG TD.
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> PCKing
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Hauck
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: BFR
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> Beauford, come to think of it, sounds a lot my first wife.
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> Your first one must have been a hoot!
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> Anybody know how to compare a 172 to a Kolb? I don't.
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> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
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> .....except for the alimony part, you have come very close to
describing my
> first wife.... Crazy Louise...
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> beauford
> FF-076
> Brandon, p; Navigator Photoshare, and
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Hi Robert,=0AI like your analogy- of the VW to the Buick ,-Both have th
ier place, and will =0Aboth get you where are going.=0AYou would probally h
ave a better chance of haveing fun in the vw.=0A- Same with the kolb,-o
n any trip ,lots-more opportunitys for fun.=0AI have regained my-apprec
iation for the flying qualities of the firestar2. And =0Ahope not to take
-it for granted again.=0AFrank=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________________
____=0AFrom: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.
com=0ASent: Sat, January 29, 2011 10:46:35 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: BFR
=0A=0AClose, but I would prefer an analogy to a VW bug. -MG TDs had a rel
iability =0Aproblem. =0A=0A=0AThe 172 is a fine airplane but these days cos
t a bunch to own and fly. --besides =0Aneeding WAY too much runway.=0AWha
t always perplexed me were the guys who would sign one out at the local FBO
=0Ato fly SOLO on saturday morning.???=0A150s were cheaper and did the sam
e thing. -An 85 hp 140 will run right alongside =0Aa 172 and consume much
less fuel.=0A=0AI guess some guys just like to cruise down the expressway
in a Buick.=0ABB=0A(I only had a first wife. -There isn't any replacement
)=0A=0AOn 29, Jan 2011, at 10:50 AM, PCKing wrote:=0A=0A-=0A>John,=0A>-
=0A>You are comparing a full size Buick sedan to a rag top MG TD.=0A>-=0A
>PCKing-=0A>-=0A>----- Original Message -----=0A>>From:-John Hauck=0A
>>To:-kolb-list@matronics.com=0A>>Sent:-Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:3
8 AM=0A>>Subject:-Re: Kolb-List: BFR=0A>>=0A>>--> Kolb-List message poste
d by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A>>=0A>>Beauford, come to think
of it, sounds a lot my first wife.=0A>>=0A>>Your first one must have been a
hoot!=0A>>=0A>>Anybody know how to compare a 172 to a Kolb?- I don't.=0A
>>=0A>>john h=0A>>mkIII=0A>>Titus, Alabama=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>-.....except for
the alimony part, you have come very close to describing my=0A>>first wife
....-- Crazy Louise...=0A>>=0A>>-beauford=0A>>FF-076=0A>>Brandon, p;
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Subject: | Re: Firestar to MK III C transition. |
[quote="lcottrell"]The comparison that I would make is that you are trading a
sports car for a van, but you will have more range and can carry more stuff.
Larry
Oregon
> [b]
Having owned a MKIII since 1995 and having a FSII in the hangar next to me since
2005 (which I could fly whenever I wanted,) let me weigh in on this.
If you leave the aileron bellcrank which connects to the aileron pushrods the standard
distance between the two pushrod bolt holes, then I would agree with you,
and would also add that both of them require heavy stick forces to extract
maximum agility.
If you reduce the distance between the bolt holes to improve your stick leverage
on both airplanes, then the FSII simply becomes a lot less labor intensive to
fly, and the MKIII becomes not only less labor intensive, but a lot more agile
in the process. This might seem a bit counter-intuitive, nonetheless that is
how it works, probably because none of us is likely to try and get serious agility
out of an airplane when it seems like it takes "too much muscle" to do
it.
Modified you have a situation where the FSII handles like a smaller sports car,
and the MKIII like a well designed sports sedan with all the handling options.
Plus room for sweet thing & a picnic lunch...
MKIII aileron mod: http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg7.htm
FSII aileron mod: http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/FSII%20ailerons.html
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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