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1. 04:33 AM - Re: FSII (Richard Girard)
2. 10:09 AM - Re: FSII (Rick Neilsen)
3. 11:23 AM - Re: FSII (Richard Girard)
4. 06:16 PM - Re: FSII (Larry Cottrell)
5. 07:01 PM - bad news good news (ktnc420)
6. 08:33 PM - Re: bad news good news (ces308)
7. 09:36 PM - Re: bad news good news (ktnc420)
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Mike, I voted with my feet, as they say. The first major work I did on my
engine / drive when I got home from Rotax school was to get that rice king
clutch out.
Some like them, I don't.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Mike Hale <halesbeer@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have just purchased a firestar two in flying
> condition after working on one in my basement for 15 years. I realized I
> would
> never finish it before I got too old.
> It is as much fun to fly as I have imagined, particularly after adding the
>
> vortex generators.
>
> my 503 has a clutch in the C gearbox and a three bladed warp drive
> prop. As you know this allows the prop to freewheel when gliding and adds
> a lot
> of drag. also if it ever quit on me in flight an air restart would be
> impossible.
> are the advantages of the easier start and smoother idle worth the
> tradeoff?
> Thanks,
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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I'm not sure what voting with my feet means???
>From a engine/drive line stand point the clutch does a lot of good things.
Assuming that the clutch is reliable the reduced stress on the airframe,
engine crank shaft, reduction drive, prop, prop bolts, etc. etc. there
should be a big gain on over all reliability.
As for increased drag: If I want to land and stop short this might be good.
If you land on black top you could actually slow down without heavy braking
action. I had a reduction drive failure a few years back that allowed my
three bladed F Model PowerFin prop to free wheel. During the excitement of
the uneventful forced landing I didn't notice any increased drag but again I
was busy.
As always worth what you paid for it
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
Back from Panama & Costa Rica
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike, I voted with my feet, as they say. The first major work I did on my
> engine / drive when I got home from Rotax school was to get that rice king
> clutch out.
> Some like them, I don't.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Mike Hale <halesbeer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have just purchased a firestar two in flying
>> condition after working on one in my basement for 15 years. I realized I
>> would
>> never finish it before I got too old.
>> It is as much fun to fly as I have imagined, particularly after adding the
>>
>> vortex generators.
>>
>> my 503 has a clutch in the C gearbox and a three bladed warp drive
>> prop. As you know this allows the prop to freewheel when gliding and adds
>> a lot
>> of drag. also if it ever quit on me in flight an air restart would be
>> impossible.
>> are the advantages of the easier start and smoother idle worth the
>> tradeoff?
>> Thanks,
>>
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Rick, Take it as putting my money where my mouth is. Experience and
reporting on the effect of the clutch seems to be dependent on one's
feelings for it. I didn't like it. I've landed my Mk IIIC engine out with
the prop stopped and with the prop freewheeling and the clutch reduced the
glide by half.
Rick
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure what voting with my feet means???
>
> From a engine/drive line stand point the clutch does a lot of good things.
> Assuming that the clutch is reliable the reduced stress on the airframe,
> engine crank shaft, reduction drive, prop, prop bolts, etc. etc. there
> should be a big gain on over all reliability.
>
> As for increased drag: If I want to land and stop short this might be good.
> If you land on black top you could actually slow down without heavy braking
> action. I had a reduction drive failure a few years back that allowed my
> three bladed F Model PowerFin prop to free wheel. During the excitement of
> the uneventful forced landing I didn't notice any increased drag but again I
> was busy.
>
> As always worth what you paid for it
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
> Back from Panama & Costa Rica
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Mike, I voted with my feet, as they say. The first major work I did on my
>> engine / drive when I got home from Rotax school was to get that rice king
>> clutch out.
>> Some like them, I don't.
>>
>> Rick Girard
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Mike Hale <halesbeer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have just purchased a firestar two in flying
>>> condition after working on one in my basement for 15 years. I realized I
>>> would
>>> never finish it before I got too old.
>>> It is as much fun to fly as I have imagined, particularly after adding
>>> the
>>> vortex generators.
>>>
>>> my 503 has a clutch in the C gearbox and a three bladed warp drive
>>> prop. As you know this allows the prop to freewheel when gliding and
>>> adds a lot
>>> of drag. also if it ever quit on me in flight an air restart would be
>>> impossible.
>>> are the advantages of the easier start and smoother idle worth the
>>> tradeoff?
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>>> tp://forums.matronics.com
>>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zulu Delta
>> Mk IIIC
>> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>>
>> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
>> unhappy.
>> - Groucho Marx
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
>> ttp://forums.matronics.com
>> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>> *
>>
>>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Rick, Take it as putting my money where my mouth is. Experience and
reporting on the effect of the clutch seems to be dependent on one's
feelings for it. I didn't like it. I've landed my Mk IIIC engine out
with the prop stopped and with the prop freewheeling and the clutch
reduced the glide by half.
As I understood the mans question- it was concerning restarting his
engine by diving to build up airspeed to turn the prop fast enough to
restart. I am not sure what that speed would be, but I am sure it is
past VNE. In other words, it isn't gonna happen.
Larry
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| Subject: | bad news good news |
Bad news is there's one less Kolb out there. Good news is the pilot survived to
fly again.
Ron M. owner of 57 Alpha Cafe at Rutherford Co. Airport (KFQD) crashed his Mark
III yesterday. Plane is totaled but Ron escaped with a broken leg and serious
cuts. Reports I've read say it's a miracle he survived.
I moved to the area recently and Ron and I had talked about flying together when
the weather got better and he could take the time. Oh well.
KT
Mark III, NC
http://www.57alpha.com/
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| Subject: | Re: bad news good news |
Hello,
I am glad he's, relatively speaking,ok.... does anyone know how or why this happened
?
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru
n327CS
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| Subject: | Re: bad news good news |
I don't know any details for sure. I'll try to report when I see him again.
The FAA was called but said since it was a "light-weight"??? aircraft, they would
not investigate. I should be so lucky if something like this happened to me.
KT
Mark III, NC
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