---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/02/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: bad news good news (Ron @ KFHU) 2. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: bad news good news (Rick Neilsen) 3. 09:06 AM - Re: Re: bad news good news (Ron @ KFHU) 4. 11:36 AM - Mark-III Plans (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN) 5. 11:59 AM - kolb plans (b young) 6. 02:39 PM - Re: kolb plans (jerb) 7. 05:25 PM - Re: Mark-III Plans (Rick Lewis) 8. 05:40 PM - Re: kolb plans (Rick Lewis) 9. 07:01 PM - change of email (b young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:45 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: bad news good news If it was not the motor, I wonder if he wants to sell it and what price would he want for it. Seeing that the fellow is okay sans some none life threatening injuries. Ron @ KFHU ================================ ---- Mike Welch wrote: ============ > IDENTIFICATION > Regis#: 457A Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III Ron, I was curious what particular model the MkIII was (for no particular reason other than I was just curious). According to the FAA registration records, the MFR year (manufacture date) is listed as '1991'. I guess this may be the year the kit was sold and this would evidently make it a "Classic", I suppose. The engine was listed as a Rotax 912S. It appears the owner has had it flying for about 3 years, since the registration was issued in early 2008. Here's the MkIII's FAA registration info; http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=457A Too bad the plane was total loss. Best regards for Don, hoping for a speedy recovery. Mike Welch -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:45 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: bad news good news From: Rick Neilsen Rick Wow I'm more than a bit surprised. I got my kit from Kolb before New Kolb. The kit had large rolled blue prints for most of the plane and two 8 1/2 X 11 booklets. One booklet had text instructions but not real detailed. The second booklet had detailed drawings and modifications. Did you get that much? At no time did I feel that the instructions weren't clear enough for me as a first time builder. What do others think? Are there others that have received New Kolb kits that are less than comfortable with the instructions? The Kolb MKIII & MKIIIX are very close I'm sure someone would share the older plans with you but I would talk to Travis and /or Brian first. I can't believe they would leave you hanging if they knew. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Rick Lewis wrote: > > The more MKIII x built without detailed plans the more likely that > accidents may happen. I get all the help I think I need by calling the > factory and talking to Brian. Hopefully I ask the right questions to make > my plane safe to fly but I have to admit that at times I'm building scared. > This is not my first plane I have built. My first aircraft was totally > plans built, every piece built from raw material. This 3 passenger, 180 MPH > airplanes plans were very detailed and I had no problem building it and did > so with complete confidence. Even though the Kolb is simple to build it > still needs to be done correctly and properly rigged. I've been told I > will get a good set of plans when they come out. I wounder how much longer > I should wait to cover the wings............ > > -------- > Rick Lewis > > (VW Watercooled Engine) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329257#329257 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:41 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: bad news good news Thanks I was almost expecting to hear that it was a 582. I don't think we should discount a motor malfunction as it could be fuel starvation etc.. Now its even more curious as to what happened. Ron @ KFHU ====================== ---- Mike Welch wrote: ============ > IDENTIFICATION > Regis#: 457A Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III Ron, I was curious what particular model the MkIII was (for no particular reason other than I was just curious). According to the FAA registration records, the MFR year (manufacture date) is listed as '1991'. I guess this may be the year the kit was sold and this would evidently make it a "Classic", I suppose. The engine was listed as a Rotax 912S. It appears the owner has had it flying for about 3 years, since the registration was issued in early 2008. Here's the MkIII's FAA registration info; http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=457A Too bad the plane was total loss. Best regards for Don, hoping for a speedy recovery. Mike Welch -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Mark-III Plans From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" - NOTE - Subject Line changed Formerly "bad news good news" << Even though the Kolb is simple to build it still needs to be done correctly and properly rigged. I've been told I will get a good set of plans when they come out. I wounder how much longer I should wait to cover the wings............Rick Lewis >> Hi, Rick - I was not aware Kolb's blueprints for the Mark-III were not a good set of plans. I built mine from an "Old Kolb" 1997 model year set of plans, and my Mark-III seems OK. I discovered a few typos here and there, but overall, a sound aircraft resulted from those drawings. I still have my set of plans - if there's a detail you need (wings?), I'll be happy to copy a page or two for you ... lemme know. Dennis Kirby 912ul, Powerfin-72, 130 hrs tt Sandia Park, NM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:11 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Kolb-List: kolb plans Wow I'm more than a bit surprised. I got my kit from Kolb before New Kolb. The kit had large rolled blue prints for most of the plane and two 8 1/2 X 11 booklets. One booklet had text instructions but not real detailed. The second booklet had detailed drawings and modifications. Did you get that much? At no time did I feel that the instructions weren't clear enough for me as a first time builder. What do others think? Are there others that have received New Kolb kits that are less than comfortable with the instructions? Rick Neilsen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rick i recieved the same plans as you did... boyd young do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:46 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: kolb plans Hey folks, are the construction documentation (plans) presently being shipped with a FS-III from the factory conveying any less information or detail than the plans for a FS-II or the FireFly? jerb ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:00 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark-III Plans From: "Rick Lewis" Thanks Dennis but Travis e-mailed me on this and was told that Brian has completed the plans for the MKIII Xtra and is sending them. There is differences in the two panes. The plans I received, when buying the kit, was bits and pieces of the MKIII clasic. There was no blue print. -------- Rick Lewis (VW Watercooled Engine) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329392#329392 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: kolb plans From: "Rick Lewis" Rick The plans I received, when I bought the kit, were bits and pieces of the MKIII classic and had no full size drawings of the plane I was about to build. I did see those nice blueprints your talking about for there other planes and they were in such great detail that anyone could easily build from them. Travis e-mailed me on this and was told that when Brian took over ownership of Kolb, his first priority was to finally come up with usable plans for the MKIII xtra. Travis has sent the new plans to me and they should arrive soon. I am really looking forward to looking them over and see what, if anything, I have done wrong. -------- Rick Lewis (VW Watercooled Engine) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329396#329396 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:26 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Kolb-List: change of email to whom it may concern... i have a new isp and email address... please update (or not) my address to byoungplumbing@gmail.com boyd young kolb mkiii utah do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.