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1. 04:09 AM - Re: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck (McCarthy Tom)
2. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck (william sullivan)
3. 08:26 AM - Re: New Skis...short video (Ralph B)
4. 10:57 AM - Re: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
5. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck (robert bean)
6. 04:09 PM - Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea how to make pic file smaller (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
7. 04:34 PM - Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea how to make pic file smaller (william sullivan)
8. 05:47 PM - Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea how to make pic file smaller (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 06:17 PM - Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no ide (Roger Lee)
10. 07:05 PM - Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea how to make pic file smaller (Richard Girard)
11. 07:41 PM - Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea how to make pic file smaller (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
12. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Bad Prop Pics if you have dial up click Delete I have no ide (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
13. 08:42 PM - Need Help with 582 rudder trim (Mark Rinehart)
14. 09:14 PM - Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (b young)
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| Subject: | Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck |
Time: 09:55:45 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 Wreck
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
when the NTSB come up with an answer I will post it
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
Ellery,
I have looked, but did not see any pic's of the broken prop. Are they
posted somewhere? I'm sure others are as concerned, I have two Warps
myself. I have done searches for Warp drive prop problems, and only find
problems with some direct drive applications, and older style prop hub
cracks, but never blades coming apart. I too would like to see the ntsb
report when it comes out.
Thanks
Tom McCarthy
N863GB Slingshot
N414TM FireStar
N514TM Zenith
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| Subject: | Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck |
- The photos of Ellery's prop are posted on his page on Facebook.- Mayb
e he will also post here.
- I have a Warp Drive prop on the Firestar, and I have a broken blade out
in the garage from my accident.- Mine flipped over, and one blade snappe
d in half.- The interior does not look like Ellery's.- If it matters, m
y blade does have a serial number.
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----------------------- Bill
Sullivan
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----------------------- Winds
or Locks, Ct.
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----------------------- FS 44
7, 2 blade WD
--- On Thu, 2/24/11, McCarthy Tom <mccarthy@jefnet.com> wrote:
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck
Time: 09:55:45 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 Wreck
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
when the NTSB come up with an answer I will post it-
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
Ellery,
I have looked, but did not see any pic's of the broken prop. -Are they po
sted somewhere? -I'm sure others are as concerned, I have two Warps mysel
f. I have done searches for Warp drive prop problems, and only find problem
s with some direct drive applications, and older style prop hub cracks, but
never blades coming apart. I too would like to see the ntsb report when it
comes out. -
Thanks
Tom McCarthy
N863GB Slingshot
N414TM FireStar
N514TM Zenith-
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| Subject: | Re: New Skis...short video |
Chris, you're ski look good in flight. Just make sure the front bungee is strong
enough to overcome the weight of any snow that might accumulate on the front
of the ski. After every takeoff, look down at your skis, at a safe altitude,
to make sure they are tipped up at the proper angle. If the skis were to tip downward
for any reason and you landed that way, the plane could flip over on its
back. I saw this happen to a pilot one time.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
24 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
3 years flying it
150 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck |
I posted Pics on my facebook pge but if you would like me to post them on
the Kolb List I will
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: McCarthy Tom <mccarthy@jefnet.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 6:59 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck
Time: 09:55:45 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 Wreck
From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
when the NTSB come up with an answer I will post it
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
Ellery,
I have looked, but did not see any pic's of the broken prop. Are they pos
ted somewhere? I'm sure others are as concerned, I have two Warps myself.
I have done searches for Warp drive prop problems, and only find problems
with some direct drive applications, and older style prop hub cracks, but
never blades coming apart. I too would like to see the ntsb report when
it comes out.
Thanks
Tom McCarthy
N863GB Slingshot
N414TM FireStar
N514TM Zenith
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| Subject: | Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck |
Yes, despite hints from my kids, I'm not going to facebook.
geezer BB
On 24, Feb 2011, at 1:29 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
> I posted Pics on my facebook pge but if you would like me to post them
on the Kolb List I will
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
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> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 WreckRe: N213 Wreck
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> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: N213 Wreck
> From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
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> when the NTSB come up with an answer I will post it
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> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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> Ellery,
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> I have looked, but did not see any pic's of the broken prop. Are they
posted somewhere? I'm sure others are as concerned, I have two Warps
myself. I have done searches for Warp drive prop problems, and only find
problems with some direct drive applications, and older style prop hub
cracks, but never blades coming apart. I too would like to see the ntsb
report when it comes out.
>
> Thanks
> Tom McCarthy
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| Subject: | Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no idea |
how to make pic file smaller
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no |
idea how to make pic file smaller
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no |
idea how to make pic file smaller
Ellery, Are you sure it is not a Power Fin prop blade? Looks like it
to me.
.
On Feb 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
> <Warp Drive Prop 021.JPG>
> <Warp Drive Prop 020.JPG>
>
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no |
ide
That's not a Warp Drive prop. Warps are solid carbon fiber and no center fill.
It does look like a Power Fin, but certainly not a Warp.
--------
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
Rotax Repair Center
Home 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
Cell 520-349-7056
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have |
no idea how to make pic file smaller
Eugene, Go to the Power Fin site and check out the different blade
planforms. They have nothing that looks like Ellery's prop. Look at the
blade grips and it's even more obvious that Ellery's prop is a Warp Drive.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ellery, Are you sure it is not a Power Fin prop blade? Looks like it to
> me.
>
>
> .
> On Feb 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
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> <Warp Drive Prop 021.JPG>
> <Warp Drive Prop 020.JPG>
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> *Ellery Batchelder Jr.*
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I have no |
idea how to make pic file smaller
I am positive
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Zimmerman <etzimm@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I
have no idea how to make pic file smaller
Ellery, Are you sure it is not a Power Fin prop blade? Looks like it
to me.
.
On Feb 24, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
<Warp Drive Prop 021.JPG>
<Warp Drive Prop 020.JPG>
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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| Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you have dial up click Delete I have |
no ide
This is the end of the blade that fits the Hub below
a Warp Hub
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Lee <ssadiver1@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 24, 2011 9:13 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Bad Prop Pics if you havd dial up click Delete I
have no ide
That's not a Warp Drive prop. Warps are solid carbon fiber and no center
fill.
t does look like a Power Fin, but certainly not a Warp.
--------
oger Lee
ucson, Az.
ight Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated
otax Repair Center
ome 520-574-1080 TRY HOME FIRST
ell 520-349-7056
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| Subject: | Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
I'm trying to work out in my head which side of the rudder I need to put the trim
tab on. I've got 582 powered mark3 with 3 bladed warp prop. Most of the mark3's
I've seen have the trim tab on the left side of the rudder, but I think
they were mostly 912 powered and I think that engine rotates opposite the 582.
The 582 rotates clockwise aft looking forward, so I believe I'll need right
rudder takeoff
Mark Rinehart
N68MR
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
I'm trying to work out in my head which side of the rudder I need to put
the trim tab on. I've got 582 powered mark3 with 3 bladed warp prop.
Most of the mark3's I've seen have the trim tab on the left side of the
rudder, but I think they were mostly 912 powered and I think that engine
rotates opposite the 582. The 582 rotates clockwise aft looking
forward, so I believe I'll need right rudder takeoff
Mark Rinehart
N68MR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I need right rudder on take off,,,, and left rudder on approach,,,, the
secret to rudder trim is what do you need in straight and level flight.
for the short time on takeoff and the short time on glide slope,, you
can use the pedals.... what you want to eliminate is the constant
rudder pressure during the bulk of the flight. that is what you need to
trim out. tell me what you need in level flight, not takeoff, climb
out, or decent.
if you really need right rudder trim in level flight.... you should
put the tab an the left side of the rudder, and bend it to the left.
that will force the rudder to the right,
if you need left rudder in level flight, put the trim tab on the right
and bend it to the right, that will force the rudder to the left.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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