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1. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Bad Prop Pics if you have dial up click Delete I have no id (Richard Girard)
2. 10:07 AM - Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (Dennis Thate)
3. 10:55 AM - Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (robert bean)
4. 01:43 PM - Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (Richard Pike)
5. 01:57 PM - Re: Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (John Hauck)
6. 07:12 PM - Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (Ron @ KFHU)
7. 09:37 PM - Crank for 447 (henry.voris)
8. 10:08 PM - Re: Crank for 447 ()
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Subject: | Re: Bad Prop Pics if you have dial up click Delete I have |
no id
Richard, They've made up their mind, don't confuse them with facts. Just
remember that an expert is a has been under pressure and pray for the safety
of the gullible. :-}
Rick Girard
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
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> So far all the pictures you have posted both here and on FB look just like
> the Warp I had and broke in 1990, both inside and outside.
>
> And I don't care who says what, or what your credentials are, I broke
> several of them, and back then they did have a blondish-tan foam core.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332086#332086
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
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In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration annual fee.
My Registration fee is based on a formula that is; cost to build, and the year
built.
Seems each state has a different set of rules every time someone sends in
the paperwork. The "big-guys" simply put there planes into a corporation, lease
it back to themselves and pay sales tax on a "as-used" basis - a monthly or
quarterly amount that they supposedly bill themselves for the use of their own
airplane.
Guys who live across the border in another state end up not paying a dime!
Here is how it breaks down for me in Minnesota for a 2006 Kolb Firestar 503.
Cost to build; $18000.00
Purchase price; $12000.00
Sales Tax $825.00
Registration Fee $83.52
This is my first aircraft owner-ship, so how does this compare to your state ?
Does your state have any additional fees ........Just Curious
?
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Subject: | Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
In New York, known as a "high tax state" , we have so far not caught the serious
attention of the revenooers.
There is no registration or annual fee. -likely because there aren't enough planes
here to generate a noticeable yield.
I think I paid a $40 sales tax. -attributable to the fact that my MkIII was built
from a pile of junk that I dragged home.
It is always a good idea to look for loopholes before you build.
BTW, in the same vein, the little trailer I bought recently in Florida, on my own
half acre, in a low crime zone,
cost me $134.00 in closing costs.
Taxes about $200 year
public water, no fees
I'm almost starting to feel patriotic :)
BB
On 26, Feb 2011, at 1:04 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> .
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>
> In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration annual fee.
My Registration fee is based on a formula that is; cost to build, and the
year built.
>
> Seems each state has a different set of rules every time someone sends in
the paperwork. The "big-guys" simply put there planes into a corporation, lease
it back to themselves and pay sales tax on a "as-used" basis - a monthly or
quarterly amount that they supposedly bill themselves for the use of their own
airplane.
>
> Guys who live across the border in another state end up not paying a dime!
>
> Here is how it breaks down for me in Minnesota for a 2006 Kolb Firestar 503.
>
> Cost to build; $18000.00
> Purchase price; $12000.00
> Sales Tax $825.00
> Registration Fee $83.52
>
>
> This is my first aircraft owner-ship, so how does this compare to your state
? Does your state have any additional fees ........Just Curious
>
>
>
> ?
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332147#332147
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>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/4__2006_kolb_firestar_ii_lsa_364.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
The results are inconclusive. We dropped the left trailing edge about 3/16". The
thinking was as follows: It wants to roll left and yaw right, so we will drop
the left trailing edge to pick up the left wing, and the additional drag on
the left side will pull the nose left and bring the ball back to the middle.
In hindsight 3/16" was way too much. It kicked the ball out of the box to the right
as the drag on the left side went way up, and it still wanted to roll left.
Also it just plain felt screwed up, since it was trying to fly cross-controlled
with left roll and left slip.
So we put it back like it was and I came home - I had flown to a nearby airport
for the EAA meeting and burgers, and the wind was constantly increasing as the
day progressed, so had to cut things short. My strip is one way in, one way
out, and landing with a ten+ mph tailwind is not one of my favorite things to
do. So called it quits for today.
Will try dropping it just one washer this next week and see how that does. Also
will call Travis tomorrow for advice.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
Also it just plain felt screwed up, since it was trying to fly
cross-controlled with left roll and left slip.
Richard Pike
Richard P:
A rudder trim tab corrected a similar problem on the last MKIIIx we tested
three years ago.
I don't think I can describe the way that airplane flew before we got a
rudder trim tab on it. Was a very unnatural feeling, as if the controls
were rigged backwards. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
Subject: | Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
In Arizona there is some sort of a formula based on the valuation of your airplane.
My Beech annual personal property tax is about 250 bucks. However after it
is 40 years old which is next year it becomes an antique and then registration
is about 40 bucks a year. Next year my airplane will be an antique. yepee
As for the Kolb, which will be renamed to something else and will be valuated at
about 12K I am estimating a tax of about 50 per year.
Ron @ KFHU
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---- robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
============
In New York, known as a "high tax state" , we have so far not caught the serious
attention of the revenooers.
There is no registration or annual fee. -likely because there aren't enough planes
here to generate a noticeable yield.
I think I paid a $40 sales tax. -attributable to the fact that my MkIII was built
from a pile of junk that I dragged home.
It is always a good idea to look for loopholes before you build.
BTW, in the same vein, the little trailer I bought recently in Florida, on my own
half acre, in a low crime zone,
cost me $134.00 in closing costs.
Taxes about $200 year
public water, no fees
I'm almost starting to feel patriotic :)
BB
On 26, Feb 2011, at 1:04 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
> .
>
>
> In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration annual fee.
My Registration fee is based on a formula that is; cost to build, and the
year built.
>
> Seems each state has a different set of rules every time someone sends in
the paperwork. The "big-guys" simply put there planes into a corporation, lease
it back to themselves and pay sales tax on a "as-used" basis - a monthly or
quarterly amount that they supposedly bill themselves for the use of their own
airplane.
>
> Guys who live across the border in another state end up not paying a dime!
>
> Here is how it breaks down for me in Minnesota for a 2006 Kolb Firestar 503.
>
> Cost to build; $18000.00
> Purchase price; $12000.00
> Sales Tax $825.00
> Registration Fee $83.52
>
>
> This is my first aircraft owner-ship, so how does this compare to your state
? Does your state have any additional fees ........Just Curious
>
>
>
> ?
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332147#332147
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/4__2006_kolb_firestar_ii_lsa_364.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
kugelair.com
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25feb11
Fellow Kolbsters...
The time has arrived for me to replace the crank in my thundering 447. I have called
the usual suspects looking for a re-built crank... After the guy on the
other end of the line stops laughing and wipes the tears from his eyes, I'm informed
that there is no such thing as a re-built crank... Verboten by Rotax...
As a new crank is more than $1K I was wondering if anyone knows of source for an
illicit re-build??? I picture someone secretly pressing them together in some
hidden valley next to his still and pakalolo patch.
Thanks in advance...
Attached are three photos shot yesterday... I borrowed a 152 from the flight school
and flew the Lahaina Roads to see if the whales were still here...
Aloha,
--------
Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Can't help with crank...but truly incredible photos....
---- "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> 25feb11
>
> Fellow Kolbsters...
>
> The time has arrived for me to replace the crank in my thundering 447. I have
called the usual suspects looking for a re-built crank... After the guy on the
other end of the line stops laughing and wipes the tears from his eyes, I'm
informed that there is no such thing as a re-built crank... Verboten by Rotax...
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