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1. 07:42 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (Richard Girard)
2. 08:07 AM - Re: Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (Jack B. Hart)
3. 09:06 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (Cal Anderson)
4. 09:52 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (Eugene Zimmerman)
5. 11:19 AM - Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (Richard Pike)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (Richard Pike)
7. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (robert bean)
8. 12:39 PM - Re: Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim (John Hauck)
9. 07:58 PM - Re: Crank for 447 (jerb)
10. 08:06 PM - Re: Crank for 447 (jerb)
11. 10:40 PM - Re: Crank for 447 ()
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Henry, IMHO if someone were to go to the trouble of disassembling the crank,
measuring, metallurgical analysis, replacing bearings and reassembling AND
do it in a manner that would give you the same service as a new crank AND
charge a fair price to cover the cost of being an actual business, I think
you'd be paying for a new crank made up of used parts.
Consider what would happen if half way through the process one part of your
crank is found to be unusable. Where would they get a replacement? Rotax
doesn't have any part numbers for any of the crankshaft components except
seals. Get a used part? There are no published service limits on these
parts. No data to tell the rebuilder what the quality of fits between parts
should be. If your crank is not a candidate for a rebuild you're surely not
going to find that out for free. Now you have a bill for work performed, a
pile of used parts and no crank, still.
Up to you. Too much guess work for me.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:06 AM, <rmurrill@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Can't help with crank...but truly incredible photos....
>
>
> ---- "henry.voris" <henry_voris@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > 25feb11
> >
> > Fellow Kolbsters...
> >
> > The time has arrived for me to replace the crank in my thundering 447. I
> have called the usual suspects looking for a re-built crank... After the guy
> on the other end of the line stops laughing and wipes the tears from his
> eyes, I'm informed that there is no such thing as a re-built crank...
> Verboten by Rotax...
>
>
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
At 01:41 PM 2/26/11 -0800, you wrote:
>
>The results are inconclusive. We dropped the left trailing edge about 3/16". The
thinking was as follows: It wants to roll left and yaw right, so we will drop
the left trailing edge to pick up the left wing, and the additional drag on
the left side will pull the nose left and bring the ball back to the middle.
>
Richard,
In trying to trim out your plane, it looks like you are getting lost in the
interaction of too many variables. One thing you can do to see if the wings
are set at the same angle of attack is to remove the engine torque from the
mix. Climb to altitude and move the throttle to the idle position, and
maintain your normal cruise speed in a glide with the wings level. Watch to
see what the ball does. If it does not go to zero, you have an asymmetrical
wing rigging problem. Kick rudder pedals and move the stick to put the
plane in a gliding wing level slip to determine which aileron is high and
which aileron is low.
On the ground adjust wing incidence to correct the above problem, and repeat
the above flight until the ball zeros in a no power cruise glide. Then
check what happens at level flight under power. At this point you do not
have very many options. One can place a tab on an aileron or use a
bungee/spring to bias the roll system to level the wings at cruise. This
action will remove all side stick pressure at cruise. Then add a tab to the
rudder or rotate the reduction unit to move the thrust line or a combination
to bring the ball the rest of the way in.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
Yesterday I saw a kill deer, robins and doves walking around on the snow.
Spring is coming?
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
About your only choice is to contact a shop that does snowmobile repair and
find out who does their machine work. They will be able to split the crank
and fit new bearings. But only if you take them the crank and tell them its
out of something other than a flying machine. Like say a small air boat or
hovercraft.
At least thats my experiance.
Cal Anderson
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Henry,
There are several sources for rebuilt cranks. Central Snowmobile is
one, and Steve Beatty of Airscrew Performance located in Glendale AZ.
Here are some of Steve's Barnstormer adds. I'd recommend you call Steve
for a quote. He has been rebuilding rotax cranks for many years.
His add says ,,,,,, "The U.S. oldest certified Rotax crankshaft
-engine overhaul center. (623) 842-3902, its our 31 th year."
Gene
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On Feb 27, 2011, at 12:34 AM, henry.voris wrote:
>
> 25feb11
>
> Fellow Kolbsters...
>
> The time has arrived for me to replace the crank in my thundering 447.
I have called the usual suspects looking for a re-built crank... After
the guy on the other end of the line stops laughing and wipes the tears
from his eyes, I'm informed that there is no such thing as a re-built
crank... Verboten by Rotax...
>
> As a new crank is more than $1K I was wondering if anyone knows of
source for an illicit re-build??? I picture someone secretly pressing
them together in some hidden valley next to his still and pakalolo
patch.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Attached are three photos shot yesterday... I borrowed a 152 from the
flight school and flew the Lahaina Roads to see if the whales were still
here...
>
> Aloha,
>
> --------
> Henry
> Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
>
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
jbhart(at)onlyinternet.ne wrote:
> At 01:41 PM 2/26/11 -0800, you wrote:
>
> Richard,
>
> In trying to trim out your plane, it looks like you are getting lost in the
> interaction of too many variables. One thing you can do to see if the wings
> are set at the same angle of attack is to remove the engine torque from the
> mix. Climb to altitude and move the throttle to the idle position, and
> maintain your normal cruise speed in a glide with the wings level. Watch to
> see what the ball does. If it does not go to zero, you have an asymmetrical
> wing rigging problem. Kick rudder pedals and move the stick to put the
> plane in a gliding wing level slip to determine which aileron is high and
> which aileron is low.
>
> On the ground adjust wing incidence to correct the above problem, and repeat
> the above flight until the ball zeros in a no power cruise glide. Then
> check what happens at level flight under power. At this point you do not
> have very many options. One can place a tab on an aileron or use a
> bungee/spring to bias the roll system to level the wings at cruise. This
> action will remove all side stick pressure at cruise. Then add a tab to the
> rudder or rotate the reduction unit to move the thrust line or a combination
> to bring the ball the rest of the way in.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
Tried to do that, with the setting as shown in the picture, the wings appear to
be at the same angle of attack, however in a power off glide, the ball is slightly
out to the left, and the aircraft rolls left. Dropping the left trailing
edge and then once again trying a power off glide the ball was way out to the
right, and the airplane still rolled left with no changes in roll rate.
I am currently assuming that trim tabs are inevitable, but still open for suggestions
on changing the wing angle. In theory (except that we rebuilt a wreck...)
I would think it ought to glide straight ahead power off if everything is straight,
and it pretty much is. Weather is supposed to be good for three days
the middle of this next week, will be doing (hopefully) some more test flights.
To make sure I understand your suggestions correctly, let me read them back with
a couple additions to make sure I got the picture. You fly the plane gliding
level with the ball centered and then look at the ailerons to see where they
are, and then raise or lower the wing with the washers until the ailerons are
equal in trail. At this point, I assume that you could turn loose of the stick
and it would continue to glide level?
Also at this point you could take your feet off the rudders and the plane would
continue to glide straight and level with the ball centered? Or is that an unwarranted
assumption, and getting that part fixed requires second step B? Feel
free to make suggestions Jack, I consider you the guru in this particular area.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
John Hauck wrote:
> Was a very unnatural feeling, as if the controls
> were rigged backwards. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
Roger that! That's why I put it back like it was before flying it home.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
Richard, let us know how rudder trim affects your ride.
BB
On 27, Feb 2011, at 2:17 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
>
>
> John Hauck wrote:
>> Was a very unnatural feeling, as if the controls
>> were rigged backwards. ;-)
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Titus, Alabama
>
>
> Roger that! That's why I put it back like it was before flying it home.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Need Help with 582 rudder trim |
Roger that! That's why I put it back like it was before flying it home.
Richard Pike
Richard P:
Initial flight in he newest model MKIIIx resulted in right wing low in
straight and level flight. However, to keep the aircraft in that attitude
required right stick, not left stick. Felt like every control was out of
whack. A couple flight like that and I was ready to give up.
Temporarily stuck a big rudder trim tab on it, same size as on my MKIII.
Next test flight it flew straight with wings level, trim ball centered.
Would have never thought this was all it was going to take to get the job
done.
john h - Kolb tinkerer!!!
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
The thought I always have about using a used (rebuilt) crank is one
taken from one engine which you have no history knowledge of and put
in your engine of which you know how it's been run and
treated. Maybe it just me, but I don't see how any one can
recondition a crank in their typical shop or garage and be as
reliable as the original.
jerb
At 09:27 AM 2/27/2011, you wrote:
>Henry, IMHO if someone were to go to the trouble of disassembling
>the crank, measuring, metallurgical analysis, replacing bearings and
>reassembling AND do it in a manner that would give you the same
>service as a new crank AND charge a fair price to cover the cost of
>being an actual business, I think you'd be paying for a new crank
>made up of used parts.
>Consider what would happen if half way through the process one part
>of your crank is found to be unusable. Where would they get a
>replacement? Rotax doesn't have any part numbers for any of the
>crankshaft components except seals. Get a used part? There are no
>published service limits on these parts. No data to tell the
>rebuilder what the quality of fits between parts should be. If your
>crank is not a candidate for a rebuild you're surely not going to
>find that out for free. Now you have a bill for work performed, a
>pile of used parts and no crank, still.
>Up to you. Too much guess work for me.
>
>Rick Girard
>
>On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:06 AM,
><<mailto:rmurrill@cox.net>rmurrill@cox.net> wrote:
>
>Can't help with crank...but truly incredible photos....
>
>
>---- "henry.voris"
><<mailto:henry_voris@yahoo.com>henry_voris@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <<mailto:henry_voris@yahoo.com>henry_voris@yahoo.com>
> >
> > 25feb11
> >
> > Fellow Kolbsters...
> >
> > The time has arrived for me to replace the crank in my thundering
> 447. I have called the usual suspects looking for a re-built
> crank... After the guy on the other end of the line stops laughing
> and wipes the tears from his eyes, I'm informed that there is no
> such thing as a re-built crank... Verboten by Rotax...
>
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
If they replace your crank with a new one what
happens to the old crank, is it sellable to one
of the crank rebuilders? How much could you get
for the old core? Next do they play the game
with you where they try to claim there is a core
charge for the old crank and it has to be sent
back or you get change so much more.
What's going rate for a new crank for 447?
jerb
At 11:45 AM 2/27/2011, you wrote:
>Henry,
>
>There are several sources for rebuilt
>cranks. Central Snowmobile is one, and Steve
>Beatty of Airscrew Performance located in Glendale AZ.
>Here are some of Steve's Barnstormer adds. I'd
>recommend you call Steve for a quote. He has
>been rebuilding rotax cranks for many years.
>His add says ,,,,,, "The U.S. oldest certified
>Rotax crankshaft -engine overhaul center. (623) 842-3902, its our 31 th
year."
>
>Gene
>
>
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>All 2 and 4 stroke Rotax crankshafts can be
>trued to factory specs. after a prop strike ,
>you are not required to replace any Rotax
>crankshaft after sudden stoppage , But should be
>inspected . Trued or rebuilt , All rebuilt
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>new ones of these , we also have several low
>time or rebuilt 277,377,447,503 ,582s and 583s
>including the 912 S , four strokes in stock with
>your choice of gearboxes and exhaust . We have
>been in the aircraft engine business for 29
>years now . Many other engines , redrives and
>exhaust systems in stock, including at least 18
>Brand new Rotax 277s , new Cuyuna 215 and 430s ,
>Kawasakis ect , engine and crankshaft overhaul ,
>Quick turnaround , genuine Rotax , Cuyuna and
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>your 583 and 670 engines to install the
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>>25feb11
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>>Fellow Kolbsters...
>>
>>The time has arrived for me to replace the
>>crank in my thundering 447. I have called the
>>usual suspects looking for a re-built crank...
>>After the guy on the other end of the line
>>stops laughing and wipes the tears from his
>>eyes, I'm informed that there is no such thing
>>as a re-built crank... Verboten by Rotax...
>>
>>As a new crank is more than $1K I was wondering
>>if anyone knows of source for an illicit
>>re-build??? I picture someone secretly pressing
>>them together in some hidden valley next to his still and pakalolo patch.
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>Attached are three photos shot yesterday... I
>>borrowed a 152 from the flight school and flew
>>the Lahaina Roads to see if the whales were still here...
>>
>>Aloha,
>>
>>--------
>>Henry
>>Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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>>Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Many years ago I had a 503 crank split and replaced the bearings with
proper Rotax bearings. That engine was still performing well 800hr later
.. I lost track of its ownership after that .It ran well and gave no
problems.
The crank was split and re assembled by a motor cycle repair work shop
that worked on large two stroke motor cycles . The work shop costs were
not that bad, the big cost was the rotax bearings . Still worked out
about half the cost of replacing the crank with a new one .
Regards all
Downunder { the shaky South Island of New Zealand }
MK111c
Stay safe up there
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