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1. 05:15 AM - Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (Kolb Aircraft)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (K I)
3. 06:24 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (Eugene Zimmerman)
4. 06:44 AM - Re: Crank for 447 (Eugene Zimmerman)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN)
6. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax (Rick Neilsen)
7. 12:47 PM - In Memoriam 2010 - Homer Kolb (David Kulp)
8. 12:50 PM - TYPO.... (David Kulp)
9. 04:46 PM - Re: Crank for 447 (henry.voris)
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| Subject: | Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
Wow
kolb CO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 1:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax
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> In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration
> annual fee. My Registration fee is based on a formula that is; cost to
> build, and the year built.
>
> Seems each state has a different set of rules every time someone sends
> in the paperwork. The "big-guys" simply put there planes into a
> corporation, lease it back to themselves and pay sales tax on a "as-used"
> basis - a monthly or quarterly amount that they supposedly bill themselves
> for the use of their own airplane.
>
> Guys who live across the border in another state end up not paying a dime!
>
> Here is how it breaks down for me in Minnesota for a 2006 Kolb Firestar
> 503.
>
> Cost to build; $18000.00
> Purchase price; $12000.00
> Sales Tax $825.00
> Registration Fee $83.52
>
>
> This is my first aircraft owner-ship, so how does this compare to your
> state ? Does your state have any additional fees ........Just Curious
>
>
> ?
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Greetings=2C
I am coming up on my 300 hour TBO of my Rotax 503 DCDI. I have 24 hours to
go. I likewise have wondered about the Rotax requirement of replacing the c
rank. I have talked with Green Sky Adventures and Air Wolf of CA. Each of t
hem have responded that it is a requirement to replace the crank at 300 hou
rs. I have talked with some Rotax 503 owners who have told me the crank wil
l last a lot longer than the 300 hours suggested by Rotax. Many owner/rebu
ilders say the crank condition is the key to replacement or continued use.
Many variables add to the total picture such as oil used=2C mixture=2C mois
ture conditions during storage etc. My questions are=3B Is the 300 hour re
placement requirement a liability demand or is replacing the crank a safety
issue? Should I just replace it and not consider leaving it in the plane?
Also=2C Thanks Boyd for the help with the toe-in / toe-out problem.
Kurt
Utah
FS2
From: aoldman@xtra.co.nz
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crank for 447
Many years ago I had a 503 crank split and replaced the bearings with prope
r Rotax bearings. That engine was still performing well 800hr later . I los
t track of its ownership after that .It ran well and gave no problems.
The crank was split and re assembled by a motor cycle repair work shop that
worked on large two stroke motor cycles .. The work shop costs were not th
at bad=2C the big cost was the rotax bearings . Still worked out about half
the cost of replacing the crank with a new one ..
Regards all
Downunder { the shaky South Island of New Zealand }
MK111c
Stay safe up there
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Jerb,
If you are uncomfortable with "rebuilt" then stick with new.
It is a known fact that "SOMETIMES" rebuilt, or after market, is actually better
than new. I really have no dog in this race either way.
I was merely sharing information. It is strictly a personal choice.
For one person, the most bang for the buck is the decisive issue, and for another
person it is the confidence associated with name brand.
Your choice.
Gene,
On Feb 27, 2011, at 11:02 PM, jerb wrote:
> If they replace your crank with a new one what happens to the old crank, is it
sellable to one of the crank rebuilders? How much could you get for the old
core? Next do they play the game with you where they try to claim there is a
core charge for the old crank and it has to be sent back or you get change so
much more.
> What's going rate for a new crank for 447?
> jerb
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
Kurt,
It is strictly a risk management decision. It is possible for a
crankshaft to fail anytime after it is put into service. Some cranks
have failed in only few hours and others have been running flawlessly
over 1500 hrs. Typically failure rates increase with time. Rotax is
comfortable with the risk levels for their crankshafts up to 300 hrs.
for aircraft application of their 503 engines.
What you should do, only you can decide. Keep in mind that risk is
UNAVOIDABLE, and it is YOUR risk that you are actually managing, not
rotax's risks.
Gene
On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:12 AM, K I wrote:
> Greetings,
> I am coming up on my 300 hour TBO of my Rotax 503 DCDI. I have 24
hours to go. I likewise have wondered about the Rotax requirement of
replacing the crank. I have talked with Green Sky Adventures and Air
Wolf of CA. Each of them have responded that it is a requirement to
replace the crank at 300 hours. I have talked with some Rotax 503 owners
who have told me the crank will last a lot longer than the 300 hours
suggested by Rotax. Many owner/rebuilders say the crank condition is the
key to replacement or continued use. Many variables add to the total
picture such as oil used, mixture, moisture conditions during storage
etc. My questions are; Is the 300 hour replacement requirement a
liability demand or is replacing the crank a safety issue? Should I just
replace it and not consider leaving it in the plane?
>
> Also, Thanks Boyd for the help with the toe-in / toe-out problem.
>
> Kurt
> Utah
> FS2
>
>
> From: aoldman@xtra.co.nz
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crank for 447
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:37:58 +1300
>
> Many years ago I had a 503 crank split and replaced the bearings with
proper Rotax bearings. That engine was still performing well 800hr later
. I lost track of its ownership after that .It ran well and gave no
problems.
> The crank was split and re assembled by a motor cycle repair work shop
that worked on large two stroke motor cycles .. The work shop costs were
not that bad, the big cost was the rotax bearings . Still worked out
about half the cost of replacing the crank with a new one ..
>
> Regards all
> Downunder { the shaky South Island of New Zealand }
> MK111c
>
> Stay safe up there
>
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> ttp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
"Dennis Thate" wrote:
<< In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration
annual fee... $83.52 so how does this compare to your state ? ... Just
Curious >>
In my state, it seems we have it easy.
A homebuilt airplane here has only an annual registration fee.
The formula used for New Mexico is a penny a pound, based on stated
gross weight.
So for my 1000-lb aircraft, I pay $10 per year.
Dennis Kirby
Mark-III, 912ul, PowerFin-72
Sandia Park, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Sales Tax and RegistrationTax |
In Michigan they charge sales tax on the plane purchase. I gave them a
believable purchase cost for the kit and the VW engine but seems like I sai
d
it would cost me 6-8 thousand for the build. I don't remember how they
caught up with me, may have been the N number request for the FAA. I also
pay a yearly registration fee based on the value of the plane and it is $10
.
They have a hefty late fee so I have to pay very quickly after all the
forwarding to my Florida residence.
The FAA says they loose track of planes and that is their justification for
the reregistration. Seems like they could talk to the states to find out
when a plane isn't registered but I guess that would be too logical.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN <
Dennis.Kirby@kirtland.af.mil> wrote:
> "Dennis Thate" wrote:
>
> << In Minnesota I have to pay State sales tax and a yearly registration
> annual fee=85 $83.52 so how does this compare to your state ? ... Just
> Curious >>
>
>
> In my state, it seems we have it easy.
>
> A homebuilt airplane here has only an annual registration fee.
>
> The formula used for New Mexico is a penny a pound, based on stated gross
> weight.
>
>
> So for my 1000-lb aircraft, I pay $10 per year.
>
>
> Dennis Kirby
>
> Mark-III, 912ul, PowerFin-72
>
> Sandia Park, NM
>
>
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| Subject: | In Memoriam 2010 - Homer Kolb |
List,
I scanned and saved a copy of the program from the Kolb - Kulp - Culp
Reunion 2010 program which included Homer's name on the last page. I
was going to send a copy to Dennis Souder and John Hauch, since they
knew him probably the best of any of us. Then I considered that maybe
others would be interested in a window of Homer's personal life,
unrelated to the wonderful aircraft he designed and built. So, I'm
attaching it to this email in case you'd like that insight. (You can
either print the PDF file or turn your monitor on its side. Your choice.)
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
Prepping the FF for flying weather soon!!!
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HAUCK, John HAUCK!!! How did I hit the "h"?? Sorry John.
dK
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| Subject: | Re: Crank for 447 |
26feb11
Fellow Kolbsters,
As always this list is the best source of information, thanks.
Called Steve at AIRSCREW PERFORMANCE... Sez he'll do the deed for $788, delivered
back to me, 6 months unlimited hr. warranty from start-up. Figures about a
week turn around...
Surprising how many "off list" messages I received urging me to consider using
the snowmobile crank... All the snowmobile shops here on Maui are so jammed they
can't take the time to talk to me, so I'll have to research sources on the
net.
I'll keep you guys informed as to what I do & how it turns out.
Kurt, I'm not replacing the crank because it hit 300 hours... I'm replacing because
I screwed up the engine bad. Mea Culpa. IMHO TBO = Cover My Ass... Remember
that when you read my obit...
Aloha,
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Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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