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1. 03:36 AM - Re: trying a new prop (Jimmy Young)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: Fw: Wing Failure (Dennis Thate)
3. 07:11 AM - Re: insurance (Thom Riddle)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: 2nd Flight! (kolbaircraft)
5. 02:39 PM - Re: MKII has a new owner (cristalclear13)
6. 02:49 PM - Cristal's Merry Dawn is finally airborne again (cristalclear13)
7. 03:05 PM - Re: Kolb flyers near Chattanooga? (cristalclear13)
8. 03:19 PM - Re: Cristal's Merry Dawn is finally airborne again (ces308)
9. 06:36 PM - Re: 2nd Flight! (Mike Welch)
10. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: 2nd Flight! (HGRAFF@aol.com)
11. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: 2nd Flight! (Gregor Taylor)
12. 06:41 PM - The Rest of the Story (Jack B. Hart)
13. 06:50 PM - Re: Re: insurance (Pat Ladd)
14. 07:08 PM - Re: Re: 2nd Flight! (Richard Girard)
15. 08:18 PM - Re: Re: 2nd Flight! (Larry Cottrell)
16. 08:31 PM - Re: Re: 2nd Flight! (Dana Hague)
17. 10:04 PM - Landing Light...How do you aim them.. (Nick Cassara)
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| Subject: | Re: trying a new prop |
> From the inertia tests I did on a number of props in 2007:
>
> Warp Drive 66" 3 blade CNC hub
> Wt. 9 lb. 12 oz.
> Average time to 30 oscillations, 180 seconds
> Inertia5200 Kg cm^2
Rick,
Thanks for the prop MOI info. I do keep my idle up around 22-2300 even with the
Powerfin. My HKS has never idled smoothly below 1900 rpm.
Looks like there's only one way to find out the MOI on this prop: I'll pull it
off on Sunday & do the oscillation test. It's got my curiosity stimulated.
> Whynot ask Warp Drive?
Chris,
The first place I checked was with Warp & they said they did not have any MOI data
on this prop.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Wing Failure |
I have a BRS chute on my Kolb. But no negative G's for me [Exclamation]
Impressive video
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Pat,
I just changed the insurance on my Slingshot and am now paying $775/yr for the
following coverage:
$1M liability
$20,000 Hull NOT-IN-FLIGHT (stationary or taxi only)
Since I operate the SS as a single place airplane, I don't have passenger coverage,
which is saving me $25/yr (I think). The premium for full IN-FLIGHT hull
coverage would be $300/yr more. I was paying about $400/yr for liability only
but decided to add hull coverage while airplane is not in flight.
I'll let you do the unit conversions if you care to compare.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks
like work.
- Thomas A. Edison
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Dick Rahill likes the Aluminum gear on the Fire Star.
Travis
Kolb CO
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| Subject: | Re: MKII has a new owner |
gliderx5 wrote:
> Well friends, my MKII has been sold and now lives in an apparent Kolb haven near
St. Louis. I hope you Kolb guys in the area give Greg, the new owner great
welcome into the fold. I will miss the little airplane. I had a lot of fun
with it over the last couple years putting about 100 hours on it. I visited
22 different airports, several fly-ins, camp-outs, and pancake breakfasts. I
even towed it to Oshkosh and flew it at the ultralight farm. I took dozens of
friends for rides, introducing them to light sport flying. I learned about Rotax
engines and how great they perform. The MKII is a tremendous bargain for
fun flying and I would recommend it to anyone. I bought it to have something
to fly until I finished my Pietenpol Aircamper, which I hope to have flying this
fall, but I didn't think I would enjoy the little beast as much as I did.
I will keep my web site on-line to share information about the MKII for others
that may be interested. I'm not convinced that I won't be back in a Kolb somewhere
in the future. Until then, may you all have blue skies and light winds.
>
> Best Wishes
> Malcolm Morrison
> http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/kolb.htm
>
>
Best of luck to you Malcolm. May your little Mark II be happy in her new home.
I know you will miss her!
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
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| Subject: | Cristal's Merry Dawn is finally airborne again |
I got to fly my Kolb Mark II on Saturday evening for a few laps around the field
and a couple landings as I watched the sun go down. She flew great and it felt
great being in the air again. It had been 11 months since I flew her!!
After having a baby and doing the following, she's as good as new...me too, I think!
:)
New battery, cleaned carbs, new fuel lines and fuel filter, cleaned gas tanks with
replaced elbow joint, vacuumed and washed, went ahead and completed the annual
inspection.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb flyers near Chattanooga? |
dbrtgm(at)me.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just finished readying my new (to me) Twinstar for flight. I've never flown
a taildragger and I'm a little scared about flying this thing. I'm wondering
if there are any Kolb owners near Chattanooga that could help me with a little
co-pilot time before I fly it alone.
>
> Also I'm looking for a place to keep it. I'd like to share a hangar if anyone
wants a break on hangar rent.
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
Dan,
Might be best for you to contact Jim Kmet up near Cookeville, TN. He is a great
instructor.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Sept 2007
Private Pilot Aug 2008
ELSA Repairman for N193Y April 2008
Rotax 2 stroke maintenance April 2009
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| Subject: | Re: Cristal's Merry Dawn is finally airborne again |
YAY !!!
Glad to hear you are in the air again !
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab 182.00hrs
N327CS
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>Stall speed clean was about 42 mph.
>
> Mark Rinehart
> N68MR
Mark=2C and MkIII drivers=2C
You say that the stall is 42 mph. I'm curious. It was/is my understandi
ng that the MkIII stall
was usually less than that....like somewhere around 30-35 (clean). No??
Could you clarify for me how you got the 42 mph number? Was it your 'ind
icated airspeed'=2C
or a GPS reading from several stall maneuvers=2C etc=2C etc. Lastly=2C di
d you find out what your stall
speed is 'WITH' some flaps added?
Thanks=2C
Mike Welch
MkIII N212MN
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In case lowering the left flap isn't enough, it wasn't for me, the
following might be of use.
Regarding the size of the trim tab, I suggest the following, as done on my
Mark III classic:
- Find a suitable piece of aluminum, as thin as .016, about two feet long
and roughly six inches wide.
- At the edge of the long side, bend 2" by about 30 degrees.
- Tape, (yes tape it, it doesn't need to be with 600 MPH stuff), to the
underside of the right aileron,
letting only the 2" protrude beyond the end of the aileron.
- The tab is to face down, to push the aileron up, to push the right wing
down,
to compensate for the heavy left wing.
- Now you can test fly and see the results. If too much/too little. change
the tab.
Just don't leave the tape on too long, like weeks, for it may pull the
paint when removed.
- Once you're happy with results, the real fun starts, making a final
mount.
- Center your tab to cover at least two "ribs". Mark precisely where they
are on the tab.
- Scallop your tab to form two fingers forward, for attachment to those
narrow "rib" tubes.
- Drill and cleco the tab to the rear spar of the aileron. Approximately
2" spacing.
- Now, most precisely, mark the center line of the "ribs" at the end of
the fingers.
- Remove the tab and drill a 1/16" hole near the end of the fingers, on
that centerline!
- Deburr everything.
- Re-attach the tab with clecos and
check how precise those !/16" holes line up with the centerline of the
"ribs"
- If precise, now use the tab hole as a guide to drill a 1/16 hole into
that narrow #$%^& rib.
One hole in each finger will do.
- Use 1/16' rivets to attach the fingers, 1/8' rivets for the spar
portion.
Go Fly, enjoy and fix the next thing, like maybe the rudder trim, or
longitudinal trim, or prop pitch, or......
Herb Graff
Kolb 246KY
In a message dated 4/14/2011 12:10:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
byoungplumbing@gmail.com writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "b young" <byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
tweak the left flap down a hair to compensate for slight left wing low
Any suggestions as to how big the trim tab should be?
> Mark Rinehart
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Kolbers,
Last year about this time I bought a Firestar 1 for a really good
price, I thought. I wasn't thinking about registration when I bought it I
was looking at ultralight class. I have since talk to the FAA and have been
informed that the only way I can legally fly this plane is under part 103,
which I am trying to do, but I don't know if I can get it under the 254lbs.
It was never registered by previous owners that I know of so thats out, the
one thing that I suggested that the FAA thought would be do-able is to find
a registered firestar 1 that has a airworthiness certificate that has been
damaged and use my plane to rebuild it. The sad thing is mine is in good
flying shape now and I flew it about an hour and a half last summer. If
anyone knows about a firestar 1 that fits the bill for a reasonable price
please let me know. Meanwhile I am going to try to get in touch with
previous owners to see if it was ever registered.
Thanks Greg
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| Subject: | The Rest of the Story |
Jerry,
The following goes to show that when you want to find it, you can't, and
then after you have owned up to the fact and reported it to the world, you
find it.
While repairing a FireFly corner wing brace down in the basement, I spied
some folders on one of the work tables. Looked through them and found the
brown envelope with the name on it. There were several telephone numbers on
it, but when I reverse looked them up, non seemed to be valid. So I Googled
machine shops in Dexter, Missouri and started calling. On the second call
they knew about Bill Dinkins (The name I heard and spelled as Denkins).
This fellow gave me his brother Ted's number in Dexter, and he gave me
Bill's number (573) 421-4250.
We had a nice talk. He has just retired. His plane has been in the shed
for five years. It is in good shape, and he said he would be pulling it out
this Spring and expects that after re plumbing the fuel system the 503 will
start right up and he will be back in the air.
He lives at 8805 cty road 412, Puxico, MO, which is about 20 miles next to
you.
I have completed making tubing splices for the broken wing braces on the
FireFly. And, I have removed and modified the right wing brace. I hope to
remount it tomorrow and then start on the left wing.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
At 04:00 PM 4/9/11 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Jack
>
>Who was it that had a kolb at Dexter?
>Jerry Deckard
Jerry,
I have gone through my junk and I cannot find the brown envelope from Kolb
on which I wrote his name. I got on maps.google.com and looked for the
place but I could not find it. As I remember it, he lived north of Dudley,
but he worked in Dexter at a machine shop.
That's the best I can do.
Jack
do not archive
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Thanks Thom.
I will do the conversion when I have a spare minute. Up to my eyebrows at
the moment.
Pat
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Simpler, cheaper and faster. Go to McDonald's and get a couple of drinking
straws. Get some clear packing tape, splurge, buy 3M, $3 at most. Place a
single straw below the trailing edge of the right aileron at the outboard
end. Fly. If it isn't enough, add second straw. See Wickerbill of Gurney
Flap for an explanation of how it works.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, <HGRAFF@aol.com> wrote:
> In case lowering the left flap isn't enough, it wasn't for me, the
> following might be of use.
>
> Regarding the size of the trim tab, I suggest the following, as done on my
> Mark III classic:
>
> - Find a suitable piece of aluminum, as thin as .016, about two feet long
> and roughly six inches wide.
>
> - At the edge of the long side, bend 2" by about 30 degrees.
>
> - Tape, (yes tape it, it doesn't need to be with 600 MPH stuff), to the
> underside of the right aileron,
> letting only the 2" protrude beyond the end of the aileron.
>
> - The tab is to face down, to push the aileron up, to push the right wing
> down,
> to compensate for the heavy left wing.
>
> - Now you can test fly and see the results. If too much/too little. change
> the tab.
> Just don't leave the tape on too long, like weeks, for it may pull the
> paint when removed.
>
> - Once you're happy with results, the real fun starts, making a final
> mount.
> - Center your tab to cover at least two "ribs". Mark precisely where they
> are on the tab.
> - Scallop your tab to form two fingers forward, for attachment to those
> narrow "rib" tubes.
> - Drill and cleco the tab to the rear spar of the aileron. Approximately
> 2" spacing.
> - Now, *most precisely*, mark the center line of the "ribs" at the end
> of the fingers.
> - Remove the tab and drill a 1/16" hole near the end of the fingers, on
> that centerline!
> - Deburr everything.
> - Re-attach the tab with clecos and
> check how precise those !/16" holes line up with the centerline of the
> "ribs"
> - If precise, now use the tab hole as a guide to drill a 1/16 hole into
> that narrow #$%^& rib.
> One hole in each finger will do.
> - Use 1/16' rivets to attach the fingers, 1/8' rivets for the spar
> portion.
>
> Go Fly, enjoy and fix the next thing, like maybe the rudder trim, or
> longitudinal trim, or prop pitch, or......
>
> Herb Graff
>
> Kolb 246KY
>
>
> In a message dated 4/14/2011 12:10:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> byoungplumbing@gmail.com writes:
>
>
> tweak the left flap down a hair to compensate for slight left wing low
>
> Any suggestions as to how big the trim tab should be?
>
> > Mark Rinehart
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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All of this advice is good, but of course I didn't do it that way for my
Firestar. I merely cut a piece of lexan long enough to fit over two
ribs, put a bend in it, and rivet it onto the wing. Take it up in the
air, if it is too much, take a pair of tin snips and trim it, take it up
again, and keep trimming until it flies like you want it to hands off.
The nice part about lexan is that it takes on the color of the paint
that it is attached to, and you can see where to drill the holes.
Keep in mind that I am more goal oriented than some others.
Larry
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which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Girard
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 2nd Flight!
Simpler, cheaper and faster. Go to McDonald's and get a couple of
drinking straws. Get some clear packing tape, splurge, buy 3M, $3 at
most. Place a single straw below the trailing edge of the right aileron
at the outboard end. Fly. If it isn't enough, add second straw. See
Wickerbill of Gurney Flap for an explanation of how it works.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, <HGRAFF@aol.com> wrote:
In case lowering the left flap isn't enough, it wasn't for me, the
following might be of use.
Regarding the size of the trim tab, I suggest the following, as done
on my Mark III classic:
- Find a suitable piece of aluminum, as thin as .016, about two feet
long and roughly six inches wide.
- At the edge of the long side, bend 2" by about 30 degrees.
- Tape, (yes tape it, it doesn't need to be with 600 MPH stuff), to
the underside of the right aileron,
letting only the 2" protrude beyond the end of the aileron.
- The tab is to face down, to push the aileron up, to push the right
wing down,
to compensate for the heavy left wing.
- Now you can test fly and see the results. If too much/too little.
change the tab.
Just don't leave the tape on too long, like weeks, for it may pull
the paint when removed.
- Once you're happy with results, the real fun starts, making a
final mount.
- Center your tab to cover at least two "ribs". Mark precisely
where they are on the tab.
- Scallop your tab to form two fingers forward, for attachment to
those narrow "rib" tubes.
- Drill and cleco the tab to the rear spar of the aileron.
Approximately 2" spacing.
- Now, most precisely, mark the center line of the "ribs" at the
end of the fingers.
- Remove the tab and drill a 1/16" hole near the end of the
fingers, on that centerline!
- Deburr everything.
- Re-attach the tab with clecos and
check how precise those !/16" holes line up with the centerline
of the "ribs"
- If precise, now use the tab hole as a guide to drill a 1/16 hole
into that narrow #$%^& rib.
One hole in each finger will do.
- Use 1/16' rivets to attach the fingers, 1/8' rivets for the spar
portion.
Go Fly, enjoy and fix the next thing, like maybe the rudder trim, or
longitudinal trim, or prop pitch, or......
Herb Graff
Kolb 246KY
In a message dated 4/14/2011 12:10:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
byoungplumbing@gmail.com writes:
<byoungplumbing@gmail.com>
tweak the left flap down a hair to compensate for slight left wing
low
Any suggestions as to how big the trim tab should be?
> Mark Rinehart
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Greg,
Many Firestars were never registered, but instead flown as ultralights
whether or not they actually made the 254# limit, which I understand is
just _barely_ possible if the plane has a 377 engine. Probably most
ultralights are over 254#, and nobody is checking... a few pounds
overweight is a lot less obvious than two seats or a large gas tank. Not
suggesting any course of action, just telling what others have done...
-Dana
At 05:01 PM 4/15/2011, Gregor Taylor wrote:
>
>Kolbers,
> Last year about this time I bought a Firestar 1 for a really good
>price, I thought. I wasn't thinking about registration when I bought it I
>was looking at ultralight class. I have since talk to the FAA and have been
>informed that the only way I can legally fly this plane is under part 103,
>which I am trying to do, but I don't know if I can get it under the 254lbs.
>It was never registered by previous owners that I know of so thats out, the
>one thing that I suggested that the FAA thought would be do-able is to find
>a registered firestar 1 that has a airworthiness certificate that has been
>damaged and use my plane to rebuild it. The sad thing is mine is in good
>flying shape now and I flew it about an hour and a half last summer. If
>anyone knows about a firestar 1 that fits the bill for a reasonable price
>please let me know. Meanwhile I am going to try to get in touch with
>previous owners to see if it was ever registered.
--
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a
fruit salad.
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| Subject: | Landing Light...How do you aim them.. |
Hello Kolbers,
Flying around south central Alaska on a weekend evening is kind of like
going to the Mall of America..a lot of traffic.
In addition to Strobes, I am mounting a Kuntzleman Landing-Taxi-Recognition
light in each wing outboard of the Strut.
I have talked to a couple PA's and pilots and so far no one really knows how
to aim them. Having the leading edge tube will restrict the possibilities
anyway. I would still like to know how the lights should be aimed. Anybody
know?
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
Kolbra #1
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