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1. 12:44 AM - Kolb powered by 4A084? (George Bearden)
2. 05:54 AM - Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? (robert bean)
3. 07:11 AM - Finally got the VG's on (Richard Pike)
4. 09:04 AM - Re: Finally got the VG's on (Dennis Thate)
5. 10:13 AM - Re: Tornados (zeprep251@aol.com)
6. 01:23 PM - Re: Finally got the VG's on (Rex Rodebush)
7. 01:56 PM - Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? (HShack@aol.com)
8. 02:51 PM - Re: Finally got the VG's on (Richard Pike)
9. 06:02 PM - Man's best Friend (Dennis Thate)
10. 08:13 PM - Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? (GeoB)
11. 08:47 PM - Re: Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? (Richard Girard)
12. 08:50 PM - Re: Man's best Friend (Richard Girard)
13. 08:55 PM - Another one from the newsletter (Richard Girard)
14. 08:57 PM - Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? (GeoB)
15. 09:07 PM - Re: Man's best Friend (Daniel Myers)
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| Subject: | Kolb powered by 4A084? |
I don't remember ever hearing on hear about anyone using a surplus 4A084
engine to power a Kolb. I'd like to hear if anyone has.
Thanks
GeoB
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? |
Not many have heard of it. Those who have probably put off by the weight. Stripped
down it might be ok.
Try this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0u2QjYhMxQ&feature=related
BB
On 29, Apr 2011, at 3:40 AM, George Bearden wrote:
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> I don't remember ever hearing on hear about anyone using a surplus 4A084
> engine to power a Kolb. I'd like to hear if anyone has.
> Thanks
> GeoB
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| Subject: | Finally got the VG's on |
Put the VG's on the FSII, and we are very satisfied. Last time around, we rolled
our own, this time we got the STOL Speed VG's and simply followed the company's
recommendation that we put them at 10% chord, or 6" back from the leading
edge.
Stall speed dropped from 35 indicated to 30 indicated, and slow flight is very
pleasant. Installation was easy, took about 4 hours from start to finish, half
of that was putting the double stick tape on the underside of the VG's. Really
thin tape, and incredibly sticky. They supplied lots of extra tape (pre-cut
to fit) and plenty of extra VG's. IMO, a good product.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got the VG's on |
Glad to hear the VG's on the FSII are big plus, as mine came with it already on
the plane.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Not to rush Rick.Looks like this Saturday will be the first flying day sinc
e the 20th here in Ohio.5 of us are headed for breakfast @ Salem air Park i
n the morning!
Have a good trip home !G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 28, 2011 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Tornados
John
I used to think that tornadoes went looking for trailer parks. I'm now thin
king that they are looking for you Kolb?????
I'm heading North tomorrow please order some good driving weather.
Can't wait to get back to my airplane in Michigan.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
Fortunately, according to my real estate agent, we don't get any
tornadoes here
in Missouri. Whew!! That takes a load off my mind....
Mike Welch
You gotta be kidding me. ; -)
What else did your real estate agent tell you?
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got the VG's on |
Richard,
Was there any particular reason you chose those v.g.'s over the "landshorter" ones?
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? |
I bought one and mounted it on a mobile test stand that weighed about 350
lbs. [like a go cart].don't remember size of prop. It would get up to
about 35 mph. We tried various carbs. but never felt we had enough power to
fly a Kolb.
We did see a Skyraider [?] or something fly with an 084 at a fly-in, but
climb was very anemic.
We also tried a 4A032 with a redrive. Cute little engine, but very weak
Howard Shackleford
FS II
In a message dated 4/29/2011 3:44:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gab16@sbcglobal.net writes:
I don't remember ever hearing on hear about anyone using a surplus 4A084
engine to power a Kolb. I'd like to hear if anyone has.
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| Subject: | Re: Finally got the VG's on |
Rex Rodebush wrote:
> Richard,
> Was there any particular reason you chose those v.g.'s over the "landshorter"
ones?
I liked the idea of rounded corners. Having cut the fool out of myself more than
once on the home made metal ones with square corners, (as did Ed) the idea of
rounded corners just sort of sounded nice. And IMO, all of them do essentially
the same thing. If there are any differences, they are probably too small (for
me) to measure. The speed reduction and handling improvement with these is
the same as with the ones I copied from Jack Hart, (and have on the MKIII, and
previously, on this airplane) with a whole lot less effort involved. Didn't
have to make them, paint them, test them in different areas, etc.
The thinking was: "Why not just get the ones that come with transparent 2-sided
tape, and are user-friendly?" So we did, and they lived up to their advertising
copy. Probably the Landshorter ones would have also. But they have square corners.
Which means that eventually Ed or I would have laid open our increasingly
thinner skin.
(You young guys don't know what I'm talking about. Be patient: you will)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
(PS: sure do wish the wind would quit blowing 20 mph every day, I wanted really
bad to go take some pictures yesterday and today of what the tornadoes have done,
but it is not fit flying weather. And tomorrow I will be spending the day
on a Red Cross Charity M/C ride - and the wind is forecast to be - Guess? Calm...)
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| Subject: | Man's best Friend |
Man's best Friend
Anybody here ever take their dog along while flying their Kolbs ?
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? |
HShack(at)aol.com wrote:
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> We did see a Skyraider [?] or something fly with an 084 at a fly-in, but climb
was very anemic.
I understand a number of folks use them. I am not sure how happy they are or what
kind of planes. A friend put one on a light plane, weighs about the same as
my Firestar I. That flew good, sorta. Top speed 70, climb was only about 500'/sec.
Maybe it is too week...
> We also tried a 4A032 with a redrive. Cute little engine, but very weak
I think everybody agrees the 032 is just too small. One guy got off the ground
and out of ground effect a lil bit, but it was very marginal.
There is at least one guy flying a 2A042 (1/2 the 084) and his lil plane seems
to fly purdy good. Haven't read a write-up on it, it's a minimax. So, I dunno.
I want a safe fun plane, but if I get more than twice the hours/tank than my
503, then maybe I'd give up some climb rate.
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? |
George, 500 ft/sec climb rate. Sign me up. Where do I get that engine. :-}
Rick Girard
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:10 PM, GeoB <gab16@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> HShack(at)aol.com wrote:
> >
> > We did see a Skyraider [?] or something fly with an 084 at a fly-in, but
> climb was very anemic.
>
>
> I understand a number of folks use them. I am not sure how happy they are
> or what kind of planes. A friend put one on a light plane, weighs about the
> same as my Firestar I. That flew good, sorta. Top speed 70, climb was only
> about 500'/sec. Maybe it is too week...
>
>
> > We also tried a 4A032 with a redrive. Cute little engine, but very
> weak
>
>
> I think everybody agrees the 032 is just too small. One guy got off the
> ground and out of ground effect a lil bit, but it was very marginal.
>
> There is at least one guy flying a 2A042 (1/2 the 084) and his lil plane
> seems to fly purdy good. Haven't read a write-up on it, it's a minimax. So,
> I dunno. I want a safe fun plane, but if I get more than twice the
> hours/tank than my 503, then maybe I'd give up some climb rate.
>
> --------
> GeoB
>
> "Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR
> drivers, so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338490#338490
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Man's best Friend |
Dennis, That picture is straight out of "The Far Side" and the caption
should be, "That's it, I'm killing him in his sleep"
Rick Girard
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrote:
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> Man's best Friend
>
> Anybody here ever take their dog along while flying their Kolbs ?
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> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
> invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338484#338484
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Another one from the newsletter |
Like I said earlier, my Kolb is a continuing source of articles for EAA
Chapter 88's newsletter. After that it's just cut and paste.
Rick Girard
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb powered by 4A084? |
rickofudall wrote:
> George, 500 ft/sec climb rate. Sign me up. Where do I get that engine. :-}
Ah right. wise guy. Sheesh.
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GeoB
"Members of Congress should be compelled to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers,
so we could identify their corporate sponsors"
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| Subject: | Re: Man's best Friend |
I sometimes take my black labrador up in the Searey. He loves it!
Thanks,
Daniel Myers
Cell: 407 920 7700
SouthEastAmphibs.com
On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:48 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dennis, That picture is straight out of "The Far Side" and the caption sho
uld be, "That's it, I'm killing him in his sleep"
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrot
e:
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> Man's best Friend
>
> Anybody here ever take their dog along while flying their Kolbs ?
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist inv
ents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338484#338484
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> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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