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1. 09:35 AM - Re: Flight West 2011 (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:40 PM - Aircraft door preference (Dennis Thate)
3. 05:49 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (John Hauck)
4. 06:07 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Charlie England)
5. 06:44 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Sheila Slinkard)
6. 06:58 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Dennis Thate)
7. 07:03 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Mike Welch)
8. 07:25 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Dennis Thate)
9. 07:57 PM - Re: Aircraft door preference (Dennis Thate)
10. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft door preference (Mike Welch)
11. 08:37 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft door preference (Jerry Deckard)
12. 10:00 PM - Re: Re: Aircraft door preference (Sheila Slinkard)
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West 2011 |
Things are going well and I am feeling a little bit spry again>>
Have a good flight John.
Pat
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| Subject: | Aircraft door preference |
.........................Aircraft door preference................................
I'm finishing sowing down my new grass strip. With that done, phase two is adding
a new aircraft door to my quonset where my Kolb Firestar is kept.
Would appreciate opinions on what is the best door for a 8' x 30' opening and why
? Pro's and Con's please........ : [Idea] 's
.
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Would appreciate opinions on what is the best door for a 8' x 30' opening
and why ? Pro's and Con's please........ : [Idea] 's
Ah......I don't know. Can't afford a door for my hanger.
Doorless at Gantt International Airport, Alabama.
john h
mkIII
hauck's holler, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
On 5/2/2011 7:38 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate"<retroman@frontier.com>
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> .........................Aircraft door preference................................
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> I'm finishing sowing down my new grass strip. With that done, phase two is adding
a new aircraft door to my quonset where my Kolb Firestar is kept.
>
> Would appreciate opinions on what is the best door for a 8' x 30' opening and
why ? Pro's and Con's please........ : [Idea] 's
>
>
That's a little like asking which airplane is best.
Are you buying, or building? If building, what materials are you
comfortable with? Do you intend to have a powered opener, or must it be
manually operated? Do you have room for the door to slide out of the way
to the side of the hanger, or must it stay within the width of the hangar?
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Dennis , build a folding door with equal width vertical section .Top runs in
a channel guided with nylon rollers. Bottom carries the weight on bearings
[called trucks] which ride on a 1/4 inch angle iron affixed to the concrete
slab. No electric, no ice, no maintenance.Can be opened partially. Folds
back and is hinged at the door jam , out of the way and entirely safe. Andy
in Mesa, WASH.. WN31
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Aircraft door preference
>
> .........................Aircraft door
> preference................................
>
> I'm finishing sowing down my new grass strip. With that done, phase two is
> adding a new aircraft door to my quonset where my Kolb Firestar is kept.
>
> Would appreciate opinions on what is the best door for a 8' x 30' opening
> and why ? Pro's and Con's please........ : [Idea] 's
>
>
> .
>
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> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
> invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338678#338678
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Andy,
That sounds interesting...can you post a photo or two !
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Aircraft door preference |
Dennis=2C
Charlie asked all the logical questions we'd need to know in
order to properly answer your question=2C but before we get a
little more info=2C I thought I'd let you know what I did for my shop
that I built 2 1/2 years ago.
My shop is 40 X 48. The front wall with the big opening (where the
big door is) has two 30" wing walls=2C leaving an opening of around
35'. The height of the opening is just a couple of inches under 10'.
I went to my local steel sales outfit=2C and bought lots of 2" x 2" sq.
tubing......enough to build a 10' x 35' rectangular frame=2C with about
8 vertical supports of the same tubing. Then=2C I welded on little
"L" brackets every 2' o.c.=2C and installed wooden 2"x 2" studs=2C effectiv
ely
giving me a complete wall of 24" o.c. studs. I installed vinyl siding
on the outside of the door that matched the rest of the siding on my
shop.
At this point=2C I have a 2" thick=2C 10' tall by 35' wide door=2C covere
d in
matching vinyl siding. When I began building my house=2C I made a deal
with my insulation contractor to blown in the fiberglass into the 2" thick
cavities. He stapled a fabric on the inside of the door=2C and filled the
cavities
with blown fiberglass loose material.
Now=2C for the opener=3B I did some eBay shopping=2C and found some guy
selling (2) 2" x 60" hydraulic cylinders. They were used=2C but in pretty
good
condition. IIRC=2C I paid about $175 total for the pair. Next=2C I grabbe
d my
latest edition of Northern Tool=2C and found the 220V=2C fully self-contain
ed
hydraulic pump and tank=2C all in one unit. Seems like it was around $500
=2C
more or less.
I got some 1/2" steel pipe=2C and some fittings=2C plus a couple of expen
sive
hydraulic lines made ($110)=2C and plumbed the whole arrangement. Add in
the electrical wire/plug and misc.=2C and that about does it!
So=2C in the final analysis=2C I've got a hydraulically operated 10' x 35
' insulated
and covered shop door. Total cost.....maybe around $2000 or so.
Very nice to have such a big door!! Photos upon request.
Mike Welch
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Mike,
Photos would be nice !
Thanks
Here is what I'm looking at, I can get the steel for cost and mfg it my self. I
just don't want a design that sticks past the quonset, soely for aesthetic reasons.
Prefer it fold internally.
http://www.bifold.com/photo_roundroof.php
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Another good option .... Out Swinging Doors
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Dennis=2C
What size opening are you talking about?
Mike Welch
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
I have stacked sliding doors. Cheap and easy to build.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aircraft door preference
>
> Another good option .... Out Swinging Doors
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
> invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338704#338704
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/swinging_doors_164.jpg
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft door preference |
Here are some pictures. I had the steel company cut the 2" X 2" tubing to
desired lengths from banded 20 ft stock on their band saw. Welded one frame
up and used it as a pattern for the rest with C clamps. Trucks are easily
made with 6 sealed bearings each.
They run on 2, with 4 to guide. Short pieces of angle iron and short axles
easily made with a drill press and a hack saw. Hinges are steel pipe and
accommodating steel pin. If you want to be fancy you could make brass
bushings. Top hinge corresponds to the other two except it has a nylon
roller which runs inside the full length channel under the weather flashing.
Belting on the bottom keeps mice out.
3rd of series showing door frame inside. Sorry it is out of focus.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman@frontier.com>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 6:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aircraft door preference
>
> Andy,
>
> That sounds interesting...can you post a photo or two !
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
> invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338689#338689
>
>
>
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