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1. 01:25 AM - Re: Re: Selling stuff???? (Robert Dresden)
2. 07:07 AM - Re: pusher airplanes (Larry Cottrell)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: pusher airplanes (Sheila Slinkard)
4. 08:48 AM - Re: pusher airplanes (Sheila Slinkard)
5. 10:30 AM - Custom fuel tanks (Ben Ransom)
6. 10:31 AM - Re: pusher airplanes (robert bean)
7. 02:38 PM - FSII rear enclosure for sale (Richard Pike)
8. 07:26 PM - Re: FSII rear enclosure for sale (Larry Cottrell)
9. 08:23 PM - Re: FSII rear enclosure for sale (Jerry Deckard)
10. 10:14 PM - Re: When is balance balanced? (Guy Swenson)
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Subject: | Re: Selling stuff???? |
Richard, I will gladly remove the rear enclosure from your hanger! I guess
I would bid $50 to start. I ordered the enclosure kit from Kolb, but it
came without one. Travis told me they
no longer had them, but the price was the same anyway. Gets darn Cold in
Colorado flying. Thanks for the thought. Bob Dresden
On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
> Not at all.
> Because I still have some FSII parts to sell, especially a soft fabric and
> vinyl rear enclosure, and a right wing. A hub extension for an Ivoprop. And
> a bunch of stuff that basically needs to get out of the hangar.
>
> No reasonable offer refused!
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339263#339263
>
>
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Subject: | Re: pusher airplanes |
Hello
The material that they are made of is not compatible with gasoline.
Please feel free to contact us Mon-Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EST, with any
further questions or concerns.
Thank you,
Berta Thaman
United States Plastic Corp.=AE
Technical Support Representative
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Bob,
For what it is worth I asked for clarification on why the tank is not
rated for gasoline. The above is what they sent me.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: robert bean
To: kolb
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
sorry, address faux pas
Larry, the latest installation came from:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&catid=816
pn 75001 -the heavyweight jugs. I Ignored the "not for fuel"
disclaimer. They really are heavy wall and stiff. The only downside
is the 63mm opening which makes fitting a dip tube a challenge.
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Subject: | Re: pusher airplanes |
You want a fool proof gas tank? Make one out of polyurethane 1/4 inch
foam sandwiched both sides 2 ply glass cloth using vinyl ester resin.
Piece it into your Kolb cage in any volume you desire. We use them in
our glasair header tanks. Materials can be had at Aircraft Spruce.
Andy-Mesa Wash.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
Hello
The material that they are made of is not compatible with gasoline.
Please feel free to contact us Mon-Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EST, with any
further questions or concerns.
Thank you,
Berta Thaman
United States Plastic Corp.=AE
Technical Support Representative
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Bob,
For what it is worth I asked for clarification on why the tank is
not rated for gasoline. The above is what they sent me.
Larry
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which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert bean
To: kolb
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
sorry, address faux pas
Larry, the latest installation came from:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&catid=816
pn 75001 -the heavyweight jugs. I Ignored the "not for fuel"
disclaimer. They really are heavy wall and stiff. The only downside
is the 63mm opening which makes fitting a dip tube a challenge.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Subject: | Re: pusher airplanes |
Addition: It is obvious this custom tank must be accomplished before
cage is covered.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
Hello
The material that they are made of is not compatible with gasoline.
Please feel free to contact us Mon-Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EST, with any
further questions or concerns.
Thank you,
Berta Thaman
United States Plastic Corp.=AE
Technical Support Representative
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Bob,
For what it is worth I asked for clarification on why the tank is
not rated for gasoline. The above is what they sent me.
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert bean
To: kolb
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
sorry, address faux pas
Larry, the latest installation came from:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&catid=816
pn 75001 -the heavyweight jugs. I Ignored the "not for fuel"
disclaimer. They really are heavy wall and stiff. The only downside
is the 63mm opening which makes fitting a dip tube a challenge.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Subject: | Custom fuel tanks |
Way back, I made a custom fit fiberglass tank for my Kolb. Had to chalk it
up to an 'educational experience'. I had used fiberglass and fuel-proof e
poxy (over a male plug). Even with one anti-slosh stiffener in the middle,
it was too flexible and expanded just under the load of a static fill. Do
h! Getting to a bigger tank is on my list (like so many things), and I'll
either do the foam core glass tank suggested here, or make one out of alumi
num, with rivets and proseal. Currently I'm still only at 5gallons.
-Ben
From: Sheila Slinkard <andysheila@eltopia.com<mailto:andysheila@eltopia.com
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
Addition: It is obvious this custom tank must be accomplished before cage
is covered.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell<mailto:lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
Hello
The material that they are made of is not compatible with gasoline.
Please feel free to contact us Mon-Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EST, with any furt
her questions or concerns.
Thank you,
Berta Thaman
United States Plastic Corp.=AE
Technical Support Representative
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Bob,
For what it is worth I asked for clarification on why the tank is not ra
ted for gasoline. The above is what they sent me.
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, whic
h includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: robert bean<mailto:slyck@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
sorry, address faux pas
Larry, the latest installation came from: http://www.usplastic.com/catalo
g/item.aspx?itemid=22694&catid=816
pn 75001 -the heavyweight jugs. I Ignored the "not for fuel" disclaimer.
They really are heavy wall and stiff. The only downside
is the 63mm opening which makes fitting a dip tube a challenge.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.
com/Navigator?Kolb-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.
com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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Subject: | Re: pusher airplanes |
HDPE is surface treated (fluorinated) to give resistance to petroleum
products. These are not, as I suspect most of
the ones flying around in Kolbs and other UL airplanes are not either.
I looked fairly extensively and could not find any in a heavy wall
configuration.
The regular stuff will normally tend to lose a certain amount of weight
and actually become more rigid with age due to absorption of the
more volatile components by the gasoline.
Nalgene makes very good treated containers but I could not find any in
our standard configuration.
I'll let y'all know how these work out.
BB
On 9, May 2011, at 9:56 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Hello
>
> The material that they are made of is not compatible with gasoline.
>
> Please feel free to contact us Mon-Fri 8:00 am - 5:00 pm EST, with any
further questions or concerns.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Berta Thaman
> United States Plastic Corp.=AE
> Technical Support Representative
>
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>
> Bob,
> For what it is worth I asked for clarification on why the tank is
not rated for gasoline. The above is what they sent me.
> Larry
>
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robert bean
> To: kolb
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 6:12 PM
> Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: pusher airplanes
>
> sorry, address faux pas
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Larry, the latest installation came from:
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=22694&catid=816
>>> pn 75001 -the heavyweight jugs. I Ignored the "not for fuel"
disclaimer. They really are heavy wall and stiff. The only downside
>>> is the 63mm opening which makes fitting a dip tube a challenge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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>
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>
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Subject: | FSII rear enclosure for sale |
Got a huge response of interest on this thing, called Ed and asked him what he
wanted for it - $75 plus shipping. It was not damaged in the crash and is in good
shape, it has hung on the hangar wall for the last 2 years so the windows
need to be polished up with some plastic polish, but aside from that it is good
to go. I hosed the pollen off and laid it out on the deck to take these pictures
of it - what you see is what you get.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339344#339344
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Subject: | Re: FSII rear enclosure for sale |
I have an extra one as well. A point of interest concerning the rear
enclosure, mine cut my cruise by 2-4 MPH. I also have a Silencer for a
single carb 447. It took the whine out of the engine and mellowed the
sound by a noticeable amount. You will have to change jets however. That
should save a bit of gas as well.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Pike
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FSII rear enclosure for sale
Got a huge response of interest on this thing, called Ed and asked him
what he wanted for it - $75 plus shipping. It was not damaged in the
crash and is in good shape, it has hung on the hangar wall for the last
2 years so the windows need to be polished up with some plastic polish,
but aside from that it is good to go. I hosed the pollen off and laid it
out on the deck to take these pictures of it - what you see is what you
get.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339344#339344
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Subject: | Re: FSII rear enclosure for sale |
That is interesting. The reason I was thinking of enclosing the rear
that it may increase the cruise speed. I was thinking it would
streamline it more. Guess not.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FSII rear enclosure for sale
I have an extra one as well. A point of interest concerning the rear
enclosure, mine cut my cruise by 2-4 MPH. I also have a Silencer for a
single carb 447. It took the whine out of the engine and mellowed the
sound by a noticeable amount. You will have to change jets however. That
should save a bit of gas as well.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Pike
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: FSII rear enclosure for sale
<richard@bcchapel.org>
Got a huge response of interest on this thing, called Ed and asked
him what he wanted for it - $75 plus shipping. It was not damaged in the
crash and is in good shape, it has hung on the hangar wall for the last
2 years so the windows need to be polished up with some plastic polish,
but aside from that it is good to go. I hosed the pollen off and laid it
out on the deck to take these pictures of it - what you see is what you
get.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339344#339344
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Subject: | When is balance balanced? |
Hi Mike,
Did you ever get the answer you were looking for? I have a MKIII Xtra
with
balanced ailerons only, the elevators and rudder are not balanced and do
not
need to be. The balancers you describe sound like the ones I used on my
ailerons! If you would like some pictures let me know off line and I
will
send you some. My e-mail is guyandjodi@bvillemn.net . I don't spend as
much
time on the list as I would like to, too many projects not enough time,
but
I would be glad to help you with this if I can. I see by your tail
pictures
you have the original MKIII Xtra horizontal stabilizer (4 corner) that's
the
one I have on my Xtra.
Let me know if I can help.
Guy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Welch
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: When is balance balanced?
Kolb guys,
In consideration of Bob Green, I'm going to do my part to bring up a
question
to the Kolb list members;
I'm in the middle of fabricating balance rods for my MkIII's
elevator(s).
I have the
"4 sided" horizontal stabilizers like some Xtras have, with the outer
dimension close
to 11" or so (see photo).
The balance rods consist of 3/4" chromoly tubing, with a 3" welded "T"
stub that inserts
into the elevator's main tube and will be riveted. At the moment, the
rods
are about 12" long,
and run the full length alongside the hor. stabs.
Here's the dilemma!! Even when I slide in 7" long solid steel weight
rods
into the ends of the
the balance rod tubes, this still doesn't come close to "blanacing" the
elevators. In fact, it takes
quite a bit more solid steel rod, hung out on the end of the balance
tubes
to get it to 'act' level.
While I'm monkeying around with various weights, in occurs to me
(duh!)
that if I want to
'balance' the elevators......I'm going to need close to the full weight
of
the elevators!! I can't
say that I like this!! In order to achieve a true and complete elevator
balance, I will need to
add a fair amount of steel rod! (photos on request)
Here's my question; For you guys that have the elevator balance rods,
did
you really add
so much weight that the elevator was truely balanced, or did you
possibly
just add 'some'
weight, that would act like a reasonably decent counter-balance?
I know another way to solve my problem would be to lengthen the
balance
rods, say...from their
present 12" length (which doens't work at the moment, unless they were
maybe
filled with lead),
to extend out in front of the hor. stabs 6", to something like 18"
overall.
I sure DO NOT like this
solution, since, IMO, it looks like the balance rods were a complete
afterthought (which they were).
Still....I don't want them to look dopey!!
What did you guys do to balance your elevator? Nothing? .....Some
weight, but not a complete
balance? Or did you just add enough rod length to keep the weight low?
I'm kind of at a loss at the moment, any thoughts??????
Mike Welch
very unbalanced, quite possibly unstable, too.
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