---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/22/11: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: 1st ultralight (Dana Hague) 2. 08:27 AM - Flight West () 3. 09:51 AM - Re: Flight West (Arksey@aol.com) 4. 10:34 AM - Re: Flight West (Richard Girard) 5. 10:43 AM - Re: Flight West () 6. 12:14 PM - Re: Flight West (Ozarkflyer) 7. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Flight West () 8. 02:50 PM - Re: Flight West (Ozarkflyer) 9. 03:01 PM - From the real Al (abumhoffer) 10. 05:08 PM - First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (Richard Girard) 11. 05:29 PM - Re: 1st ultralight (Ozarkflyer) 12. 06:43 PM - Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (Mike Welch) 13. 07:06 PM - Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (Richard Girard) 14. 09:09 PM - Re: Flight West (Dennis Thate) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:43 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 1st ultralight Hmmm. Well, consider that most ultralight insurance claims are probably for accidents during ground operations, and it's not illegal to _taxi_ an overweight ultralight, only to _fly_ it... -Dana -------------------------------------------------- "Ozarkflyer" wrote: (05/21/2011 10:34) > > Following this discussion with interest and have wondered if your insurance carrier might want to know if you're flying "illegally", i.e. flying as a Part 103 but not meeting the requirements. Weight, speed, fuel cap, etc. Could they not refuse claims if not within the rules? ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:07 AM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: Flight West One thing about long cross flights is we don't always get to fly when we want to. Today has turned out to be one of those days. I did make a .25 hour flight, but came back to Neosho to wait out better conditions. Wind is honking and there was not enough ceiling to try and climb out of the turbulence. Reckon I'll be here until we get calmer conditions or it clears up a bit. Weather guessers are not much help. May be here a couple days, but this is a good place to stay. Could be much worse. john h mkIII Neosho, MO ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:58 AM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight West John, Thanks for the post...keep us informed...fly safe...jim swan jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight West From: Richard Girard John, Looking at the winds aloft maps on Weather Underground shows 20 to 40 knot west to southwest winds throughout the region from 2500 through 10000 ft msl that is going to persist for at least the next three days. Rick Girard On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, wrote: > John, > Thanks for the post...keep us informed...fly safe...jim swan > > > jim swan firestar ll 503 michigan > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:17 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight West Patience, patience, patience. Glad I am grounded at a good location. Could be much, much worse. john h mkIII Neosho, MO ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:04 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight West From: "Ozarkflyer" Where'd you stop in Arkansas? Hope I didn't miss you coming through Mtn. View. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340604#340604 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:40 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight West ---- Ozarkflyer wrote: > > Where'd you stop in Arkansas? Hope I didn't miss you coming through Mtn. View. I landed at West Helena, Searcy, Berryville. john h mkIII Neosho, MO ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:05 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight West From: "Ozarkflyer" Good thing you got through here yesterday, cause there's no way you'd have come through AR today. Hopefully we'll catch on the way back. Stay safe. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340620#340620 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: From the real Al From: "abumhoffer" Sorry to trouble the list with the spam sent by someone who hijacked my e-mail account and address book while we were out of the area. Al Bumhoffer, Elkton, MI -------- Al Bumhoffer, Elkton, MI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340621#340621 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX From: Richard Girard After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I will take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't try the flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full stop landings. So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool! Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:29:30 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 1st ultralight From: "Ozarkflyer" I don't think that argument would convince my insurance company to overturn a claim denial. Dana wrote: > Hmmm. Well, consider that most ultralight insurance claims are > probably for accidents during ground operations, and it's not illegal > to _taxi_ an overweight ultralight, only to _fly_ it... > > -Dana > > -------------------------------------------------- > "Ozarkflyer" wrote: > (05/21/2011 10:34) > > > > > > > > Following this discussion with interest and have wondered if your insurance carrier might want to know if you're flying "illegally", i.e. flying as a Part 103 but not meeting the requirements. Weight, speed, fuel cap, etc. Could they not refuse claims if not within the rules? > > > > > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340630#340630 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:36 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX Rick=2C Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and balan ce came in at? I'll be calculating my W&B very=2C very soon. I was just wondering if a more rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's plane .. Mike Welch MkIII Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the horizontal s tab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I will take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't try the flaps or do anything but take it off=2C around the pattern and full stop landings. So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool! Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks=2C Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX From: Richard Girard The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect than the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top hole. I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and see how far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used half flaps for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most very little, so I think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and ailerons. Rick On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > Rick, > > Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and > balance came > in at? > I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just wondering if a > more > rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's > plane. > > Mike Welch > MkIII > > ------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500 > Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > > After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times this > evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the horizontal > stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I will take them > down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't try the flaps or > do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full stop landings. > So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool! > > Rick Girard > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight West From: "Dennis Thate" John Hauck wrote: > Patience, patience, patience. > > Glad I am grounded at a good location. Could be much, much worse. > > john h > mkIII > Neosho, MO Do not let yourself be forced into doing anything before you are ready. Wilbur Wright You've got to expect things are going to go wrong. And we always need to prepare ourselves for handling the unexpected. Neil Armstrong, 2005 movie Magnificent Desolation: Walking On The Moon. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. 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