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1. 05:48 AM - Re: Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (NeilsenRM@gmail.com)
2. 06:06 AM - Re: Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (Richard Girard)
3. 06:29 AM - where is John H? (Larry Cottrell)
4. 06:35 AM - Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (robert bean)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (b young)
6. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (NeilsenRM@gmail.com)
7. 08:10 AM - Re: Re: 1st ultralight (Dana Hague)
8. 10:11 AM - Re: where is John H? (Richard Girard)
9. 10:12 AM - Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX (Richard Girard)
10. 10:13 AM - Joe Btfsplk (robert bean)
11. 10:24 AM - Re: Joe Btfsplk (Larry Cottrell)
12. 11:07 AM - Re: Joe Btfsplk (Dennis Thate)
13. 03:29 PM - Re: 1st ultralight (Ozarkflyer)
14. 07:36 PM - NOT Kolb related but . . . . . (Eugene Zimmerman)
15. 07:56 PM - Look who came by for lunch (Lanny Fetterman)
16. 08:18 PM - Happy Birthday Otto, May 23rd (Richard Girard)
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
Rick
When you say the plane is nose heavy are you saying that you are running
out of up elevator? Is the trim system adjusted properly?
I had a nose heavy situation on a early high mount of my redrive VW when
under full power with a passenger (near forward CG). There were situations
where I would run out of up elevator. This was dangerous but it was due to
a very high thrust line that I assume you don't have.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the
> horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect
> than the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top
> hole. I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and
> see how far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used
> half flaps for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most very
> little, so I think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and ailerons.
> Rick
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> Rick,
> Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and
> balance came
> in at?
> I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just wondering if a more
> rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's
> plane.
> Mike Welch
> MkIII
> Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500
> Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX
> From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times
> this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the
> horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I
> will take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't
> try the flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full
> stop landings.
> So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool!
> Rick Girard
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
Rick, Nose heavy means the plane is a lawn dart if I let go of the stick.
I made one last flight just before dusk and I put each horizontal stabilizer
down to the last, bottom, hole in the bracket. Still dived, even with trim
full aft.
Putting on half flaps didn't worsen how it felt so I landed it that way.
Calculated CG with me in the pilot's seat is at 34.3% (22.63").
My plan is to adjust ailerons and flaps up a turn at a time and see if that
helps.
Rick
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:46 AM, <NeilsenRM@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick
>
> When you say the plane is nose heavy are you saying that you are running
> out of up elevator? Is the trim system adjusted properly?
>
> I had a nose heavy situation on a early high mount of my redrive VW when
> under full power with a passenger (near forward CG). There were situations
> where I would run out of up elevator. This was dangerous but it was due to a
> very high thrust line that I assume you don't have.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the
> horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect than
> the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top hole.
> I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and see how
> far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used half flaps
> for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most very little, so I
> think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and ailerons.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> >
> >
> > Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and
> balance came
> >
> > in at?
> >
> > I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just wondering if
> a more
> >
> > rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's
> plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Welch
> >
> > MkIII
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500
> > Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX
> > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times
> this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the
> horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I will
> take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't try the
> flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full stop
> landings.
> > So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Girard
> > --
> >
> > Zulu Delta
> >
> > Mk IIIC
> >
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zulu Delta
> > Mk IIIC
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> >
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | where is John H? |
For those interested, John is still holed up in Neosho waiting out the
weather. The storm passed 20 miles away from him, but Pfer is in a old
hanger and every thing is safe. He says it may take until Thursday
before he can get a window out.
Larry
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which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
True flight balance can be shown at about 65mph. At higher speeds
aerodynamic forces on that broad windshield
start showing up.
It does on my hybrid MkIII too.
BB
On 23, May 2011, at 8:46 AM, NeilsenRM@gmail.com wrote:
> Rick
>
> When you say the plane is nose heavy are you saying that you are
running out of up elevator? Is the trim system adjusted properly?
>
> I had a nose heavy situation on a early high mount of my redrive VW
when under full power with a passenger (near forward CG). There were
situations where I would run out of up elevator. This was dangerous but
it was due to a very high thrust line that I assume you don't have.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the
horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect
than the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top
hole. I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and
see how far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used
half flaps for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most
very little, so I think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and
ailerons.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> >
> >
> > Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight
and balance came
> >
> > in at?
> >
> > I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just
wondering if a more
> >
> > rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on
Ken's plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Welch
> >
> > MkIII
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500
> > Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX
> > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three
times this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted
the horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy
so I will take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight.
Didn't try the flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern
and full stop landings.
> > So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Girard
> > --
> >
> > Zulu Delta
> >
> > Mk IIIC
> >
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zulu Delta
> > Mk IIIC
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
> >
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
Rick, Nose heavy means the plane is a lawn dart if I let go of the
stick.
I made one last flight just before dusk and I put each horizontal
stabilizer down to the last, bottom, hole in the bracket. Still dived,
even with trim full aft.
Putting on half flaps didn't worsen how it felt so I landed it that way.
,
Calculated CG with me in the pilot's seat is at 34.3% (22.63").
My plan is to adjust ailerons and flaps up a turn at a time and see if
that helps.
Rick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
how is the trim set up? is there a trim tab? if so which way is it
bent? or kolbs spring assist that raises the elevators? bungee cord?
is the wing incidence at the correct angle in reference to the
stabilizers?
boyd
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
Rick
Check the trim system again. What you are describing is a non functioning
trim system. Check the adjustment of the trim system and that the proper
springs were used.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick, Nose heavy means the plane is a lawn dart if I let go of the stick.
> I made one last flight just before dusk and I put each horizontal
> stabilizer down to the last, bottom, hole in the bracket. Still dived,
> even with trim full aft.
> Putting on half flaps didn't worsen how it felt so I landed it that way.
> Calculated CG with me in the pilot's seat is at 34.3% (22.63").
> My plan is to adjust ailerons and flaps up a turn at a time and see if
> that helps.
> Rick
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 7:46 AM, NeilsenRM@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rick
> When you say the plane is nose heavy are you saying that you are running
> out of up elevator? Is the trim system adjusted properly?
> I had a nose heavy situation on a early high mount of my redrive VW when
> under full power with a passenger (near forward CG). There were
> situations where I would run out of up elevator. This was dangerous but
> it was due to a very high thrust line that I assume you don't have.
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
> On , Richard Girard aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the
> horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect
> than the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top
> hole. I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and
> see how far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used
> half flaps for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most very
> little, so I think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and ailerons.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> >
> >
> > Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and
> balance came
> >
> > in at?
> >
> > I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just wondering if a
> more
> >
> > rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's
> plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Welch
> >
> > MkIII
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500
> > Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX
> > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times
> this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the
> horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I
> will take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't
> try the flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full
> stop landings.
> > So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Girard
> > --
> >
> > Zulu Delta
> >
> > Mk IIIC
> >
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zulu Delta
> > Mk IIIC
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> >
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: 1st ultralight |
Of course... I was being facetious.
.Dana
-----Original message-----
From: Ozarkflyer <lragan@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 00:26:43 GMT+00:00
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 1st ultralight
I don't think that argument would convince my insurance company to overturn
a claim denial.
Dana wrote:
> Hmmm. Well, consider that most ultralight insurance claims are
> probably for accidents during ground operations, and it's not illegal
> to _taxi_ an overweight ultralight, only to _fly_ it...
>
> -Dana
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> "Ozarkflyer" wrote:
> (05/21/2011 10:34)
>
>
> >
> >
> > Following this discussion with interest and have wondered if your
insurance carrier might want to know if you're flying "illegally", i.e.
flying as a Part 103 but not meeting the requirements. Weight, speed, fuel
cap, etc. Could they not refuse claims if not within the rules?
> >
> >
>
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=340630#340630
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| Subject: | Re: where is John H? |
Good to hear he is safe. I'm listening to reports of the current storm
situation in the area. Keep your head down, John.
Rick Girard
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>wrote:
> For those interested, John is still holed up in Neosho waiting out the
> weather. The storm passed 20 miles away from him, but Pfer is in a old
> hanger and every thing is safe. He says it may take until Thursday before he
> can get a window out.
> Larry
>
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
> which includes my email address.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX |
I took it out for another flight before breakfast after I adjusted flaps and
ailerons. Seems a little better, but still needs more. Off to test again.
Rick
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:33 AM, robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> True flight balance can be shown at about 65mph. At higher speeds
> aerodynamic forces on that broad windshield
> start showing up.
> It does on my hybrid MkIII too.
> BB
>
> On 23, May 2011, at 8:46 AM, NeilsenRM@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Rick
>
> When you say the plane is nose heavy are you saying that you are running
> out of up elevator? Is the trim system adjusted properly?
>
> I had a nose heavy situation on a early high mount of my redrive VW when
> under full power with a passenger (near forward CG). There were situations
> where I would run out of up elevator. This was dangerous but it was due to a
> very high thrust line that I assume you don't have.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> On , Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The CG is at 22.63" (min 16.50, max 23.10) or 34.28%. I adjusted the
> horizontal stabilizer to the lowest position and it had no more effect than
> the middle hole, which was an improvement from having it in the top hole.
> I'm going to adjust the flaps and ailerons up a turn at a time and see how
> far I have to go to trim it. When I made the last flight I used half flaps
> for landing and it didn't make any difference, or at most very little, so I
> think I'll be on the right track with the flaps and ailerons.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Mike Welch mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> >
> >
> > Congrads on the flight. Do you recall exactly where the weight and
> balance came
> >
> > in at?
> >
> > I'll be calculating my W&B very, very soon. I was just wondering if
> a more
> >
> > rearward balance point would have helped with the heavy nose on Ken's
> plane.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Welch
> >
> > MkIII
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 19:05:05 -0500
> > Subject: Kolb-List: First flight for Ken Holles Mk IIIX
> > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com
> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> >
> > After months of work I took Ken's IIIX around the pattern three times
> this evening. Very nose heavy on the first flight so I adjusted the
> horizontal stab down one hole for the second two. Still nose heavy so I will
> take them down to the bottom hole if I fly it again tonight. Didn't try the
> flaps or do anything but take it off, around the pattern and full stop
> landings.
> > So now I've flown a IIIX. Pretty Cool!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Girard
> > --
> >
> > Zulu Delta
> >
> > Mk IIIC
> >
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
> > tp://forums.matronics.com
> > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Zulu Delta
> > Mk IIIC
> > Thanks, Homer GBYM
> >
> >
> > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
> unhappy.
> >
> > - Groucho Marx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> *
>
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John Hauck reminds me of this Al Capp character.
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You know I am beginning to feel like the whole US is that way. I blame
it on Al.
Larry
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From: robert bean
To: kolb
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Joe Btfsplk
John Hauck reminds me of this Al Capp character.
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slyck(at)frontiernet.net wrote:
> John Hauck reminds me of this Al Capp character.
> BB
> do not archive
************* Which One ***************
Al Capp's major characters, Li'l Abner, Daisy Mae, Mammy Yokum, Pappy Yokum, and
Fearless Fosdick, but they were also treated to a constant and colorfully unique
world of supporting characters.
Joe Btfsplk: World's most loving friend and worst jinx who always travels with
a dark cloud over his head.
Tiny Yokum:Abner's 15 1/2 year old brother.
Honest Abe Yokum: Abner and Daisy Mae's little boy.
Evil Eye Fleegle: His quadruple whammy can melt a battleship.
Marryin' Sam: The preacher who specializes in $2 weddings.
General Bullmoose: Al Capp created General Bullmoose in June 1953 as the epitome
of a ruthless capitalist.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: 1st ultralight |
Obviously, I'm fairly new to this forum and don't know the personalities. I was
hoping you were not real serious.
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| Subject: | NOT Kolb related but . . . . . |
Look who came by for lunch.
https://picasaweb.google.com/etzimm/LookWhoCameForLunch?authkey=Gv1sRgCNSsvdmCmuLQ4wE&feat=directlink
I shot a ground hog in the front yard Friday morning, and just as we sat down
for lunch, look who came by for lunch right outside our window.
The first picture is a short movie and will take a while to load.
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| Subject: | Look who came by for lunch |
Cool pictures Gene, Back when I was teaching PE, there was an eagle`s
nest about a mile from the school. On several occasions we saw eagles
fly over my classes, when we were outside for spring sports. I think
it`s great they are making a comeback in Pa. Lanny N598LF
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| Subject: | Happy Birthday Otto, May 23rd |
Guys and Gals, I meant to send this earlier today, but test flying and a 4
1/2 year old got me distracted.
While others attempted flight sporadically or based upon erroneous
assumptions, German engineer Otto Lilienthal was the first to undertake a
systematic investigation of flying and conduct a flight test program. He
bought the dirt from a canal project and had his own private hill made with
a shed at the top so he could keep his gliders handy. Unfortunately, he
never grasped the idea of controlled flight beyond shifting his weight and
his designs limited how much he could use of even that. In the end, that was
what killed him. His last words to his brother, Gustav, were, "Sacrifices
must be made". Pictures of him gliding down his hill were distributed all
over the world and eventually inspired two brothers from Dayton, Ohio to
pick up where he left off. Happy Birthday Otto, and thanks.
Rick Girard
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Zulu Delta
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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