---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/03/11: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:04 AM - Re: hanger break in (ces308) 2. 07:29 AM - Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil (Richard Girard) 3. 08:02 AM - Re: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil (Richard Pike) 4. 08:22 AM - Re: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil (Dana Hague) 5. 10:10 AM - Firestar for sale (Richard Pike) 6. 04:52 PM - Amsoil Interceptor (Lanny Fetterman) 7. 10:09 PM - Re: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil (Malcolm Brubaker) 8. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: hanger break in (Malcolm Brubaker) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: hanger break in From: "ces308" Good morning Ralph... Any word on the theft case yet?? chris ambrose M3X/Jab N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341912#341912 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:10 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil From: Richard Girard Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled *CANNOT* be mixed with Marine or any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already). So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s). Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:30 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil From: "Richard Pike" If it gets to the point that you can no longer find Pennzoil, I have had great luck with Phillips Injex in Rotax 2 strokes since 1984. As a bonus, the exhaust is not as full of greasy soot as Pennzoil. And as you mentioned, I would purge the system if I changed over. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341927#341927 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:48 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil From: Dana Hague Is the air-cooled oil actually discontinued? It's still available locally here, though only in 8oz bottles. I suspect their new 2-stroke aircraft oil is the exact same thing, with a new label and, of course, a new [higher] price. -Dana Richard Girard wrote: Awhile back I posted a request for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two stroke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again because a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection and rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. This morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT be mixed with Marine or any other oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible and will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Cooled oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already). So, if you or your customers are using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the necessary service to purge the system(s). Rick Girard -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:29 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar for sale From: "Richard Pike" I have flown this Firestar, it is a good airplane. http://barnstormers.com/listing_images.php?id=554290 Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341934#341934 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:52:35 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Amsoil Interceptor I have never used Amsoil Interceptor in my Rotax 503. However, it works quite well in my Polaris XC SP 800 snowmobile. If Pennzoil, air cooled oil, ever becomes unavailable, I would be willing to try Interceptor in the 503. Lanny N598LF ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:57 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil I-saw in a hardware store a 2 stroke oil that did not offer the tcw3 stan dard so as it was the cheepest oil on the shelf. how did it rate to the pen z we have been using?- It was made in Ohio.--=0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeann e Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022=0A=0AFrom: Rich ard Girard =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com; rotaxengine s-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, June 3, 2011 10:26 AM=0ASubject: Kolb- List: Pennzoil Air cooled two stroke oil=0A=0A=0AAwhile back I posted a req uest for information about the compatibility of Pennzoil Air Cooled two str oke oil and Pennzoil Marine two stroke oil. The question came up again beca use a customer's airplane with a 582 has Air Cooled in both the injection a nd rotary valve reservoirs and my stock of Air Cooled is nearly gone. =0ATh is morning I called Shell's technical hot line (Shell Oil owns the Pennzoil brand). The answer is, Air Cooled CANNOT-be mixed with Marine or any oth er oil that meets the TC-W3 specs. The additive packages are incompatible a nd will cause coagulation. So, the systems have to be purged of the Air Coo led oil when a change over is made (Air Cooled is no longer available once stocks are gone, if they aren't already).=0ASo, if you or your customers ar e using Pennzoil Air Cooled you might want to start thinking about the nece ssary service to purge the system(s).=0A=0ARick Girard=0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0AZul u Delta=0AMk IIIC=0AThanks, Homer GBYM=0A=0AIt isn't necessary to have rela tives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.=0A- - Groucho Marx=0A=0A=0A_ -======================== ============== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:19 PM PST US From: Malcolm Brubaker Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: hanger break in once agin what was the date and city/state of the break in?=0A=0A=0AMalcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS=0AGrea t Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022=0A=0AFr om: ces308 =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, June 3, 2011 8:01 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: hanger break in=0A=0A--> Ko lb-List message posted by: "ces308" =0A=0AGood morning Ra lph...=0A=0AAny word on the theft- case yet??=0A=0Achris ambrose=0AM3X/Ja b=0AN327CS=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.ma - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L ======= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.