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1. 02:07 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 06/07/11 (George Bearden)
2. 08:09 AM - Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (Thumper)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (Robert Laird)
4. 09:09 AM - Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (robert bean)
5. 11:30 AM - Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (Thom Riddle)
6. 11:31 AM - original Firestar 1 wieght and balance (Lonewolf1)
7. 11:57 AM - Re: original Firestar 1 wieght and balance (Thom Riddle)
8. 02:06 PM - Rock house Fly-in (Larry Cottrell)
9. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (Richard Girard)
10. 03:09 PM - Re: original Firestar 1 wieght and balance (Richard Girard)
11. 03:39 PM - Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (ces308)
12. 03:42 PM - Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (ces308)
13. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
14. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? (robert bean)
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Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 06/07/11 |
Damaged ultralight. $400 Looks like it might be one of them twin engine
Kolbs. This is all I know about it- it isn't mine.
http://eugene.craigslist.org/spo/2409312327.html
GeoB
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Subject: | Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
It is getting hot here in the south and I was wondering if anyone has flown their
Mark III with the doors off. Any handling issues I might see? Love the open
air and visibility of my previous Firestar with no doors. Any Ideas.
Anyone have pictures of what they use to hold the doors up while on the ground?
I need to do something fast. I am picturing small lift struts at the front
of each door then close the door just before takeoff. Any pictures and details
would be appreciated. I'm sure there are plenty of you who have something
that works for you.
Thanks
Dennis Long
Oakland TN
49 hours since March 15th.
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Dennis Long
Oakland TN
1990 Kolb Firestar KX
80+ hours since June
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
I've flown many hours without the doors on my MkIIIC... can't tell a whit of
difference with them on, or off (except it's a bit windier in the cockpit).
Some people claim that if you have a panel behind you, you can't fly it
with the door off.... but I have a lexan panel behind me, and it doesn't
seem to matter.
-- Robert
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Thumper <dlong1957@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It is getting hot here in the south and I was wondering if anyone has flown
> their Mark III with the doors off. Any handling issues I might see? Love
> the open air and visibility of my previous Firestar with no doors. Any
> Ideas.
> Anyone have pictures of what they use to hold the doors up while on the
> ground? I need to do something fast. I am picturing small lift struts at
> the front of each door then close the door just before takeoff. Any
> pictures and details would be appreciated. I'm sure there are plenty of you
> who have something that works for you.
> Thanks
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> 49 hours since March 15th.
>
> --------
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> 1990 Kolb Firestar KX
> 80+ hours since June
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342408#342408
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
hard to read a road map.
BB
On 8, Jun 2011, at 11:51 AM, Robert Laird wrote:
> I've flown many hours without the doors on my MkIIIC... can't tell a
whit of difference with them on, or off (except it's a bit windier in
the cockpit). Some people claim that if you have a panel behind you,
you can't fly it with the door off.... but I have a lexan panel behind
me, and it doesn't seem to matter.
>
> -- Robert
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Thumper <dlong1957@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> It is getting hot here in the south and I was wondering if anyone has
flown their Mark III with the doors off. Any handling issues I might
see? Love the open air and visibility of my previous Firestar with no
doors. Any Ideas.
> Anyone have pictures of what they use to hold the doors up while
on the ground? I need to do something fast. I am picturing small lift
struts at the front of each door then close the door just before
takeoff. Any pictures and details would be appreciated. I'm sure there
are plenty of you who have something that works for you.
> Thanks
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> 49 hours since March 15th.
>
> --------
> Dennis Long
> Oakland TN
> 1990 Kolb Firestar KX
> 80+ hours since June
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342408#342408
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
To avoid paying high prices for pneumatic lift struts, I found a much cheaper and
simpler alternative. Boats sometimes have hatches held open with springs which
are stiff enough to stay in column unless you push on them in the middle,
when they collapse. I bought one from West Marine for about $11, tried it and
liked so bought another for the other door. This was on a Rans S6, not my Slingshot.
Here is a link to a fancier model than the ones I used but the principle is the
same.
http://tinyurl.com/3heae4g
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | original Firestar 1 wieght and balance |
Hi everyone.Thanks for all your input.It's great to have people with lot's of t
time in the seat to ask advice of.I want to double check the weight and balance
on my early Firestar 1.Anybody have any info?Travis at kolb couldn't help me....THX
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Ron
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Subject: | Re: original Firestar 1 wieght and balance |
I dug up some old, but probably not very useful information on the first early
(unregistered) Firestar I had. I did not weigh it properly (tail up) but rather
in three-point stance and it was not entirely empty when I weighed it.
Right Main 148 lb.
Left Main 137 lb.
Tail Wheel 52 lb.
Total w/ 19 lb of fuel on board was 337 lb. so empty was about 318 lb.
This Firestar had a 377 engine with 2 blade 60" IVO, pull start, canister BRS.
My second early Firestar weighed in at 362 lb empty w/ 447 and a lot of do-dads
on it including long gear legs and much nicer interior. Its empty weight moment
was 13,466 in-pounds. Don't recall what the datum was for sure but think it
was the mail wheel axles.
Both airplanes flew very well with no pitch stability or weight and balance problems
at all with either a light or heavy pilot.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Rock house Fly-in |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTLBaNhf0s0
Things are going well, every one is having a great time. The weather is
cooperating a bit better, although there are still a few squalls that
are going through. We, John H,Roger Hankins, Mike Marker,and Gary Haley
decided to check out the Jordan Craters Lave Flow, and continue on down
to Owyhee State Airstrip. As you most all know this spring has been a
bit generous to us here in the West, and it is very obvious from the
air. All the "Old timers" back to Grandfathers cannot remember this much
water. The Owyhee Basin is now up to 700 percent of normal. The Owyhee
River reflects that. The Reservoir serves an irrigation function for the
"Treasure Valley".
It was a bit bumpy, but none of us could resist.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
Here's a selection of lift struts at Surplus Center that might yield one to
use on Kolb doors. None is more the $4.99.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catname=misc&keyword=XG11
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To avoid paying high prices for pneumatic lift struts, I found a much
> cheaper and simpler alternative. Boats sometimes have hatches held open with
> springs which are stiff enough to stay in column unless you push on them in
> the middle, when they collapse. I bought one from West Marine for about $11,
> tried it and liked so bought another for the other door. This was on a Rans
> S6, not my Slingshot.
>
> Here is a link to a fancier model than the ones I used but the principle is
> the same.
> http://tinyurl.com/3heae4g
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> Jabiru 2200A #1574
> Tennessee Prop 64x32
>
> Truth is what stands the test of experience.
> - Albert Einstein
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342427#342427
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Re: original Firestar 1 wieght and balance |
Ron, I don't remember who gave me this, but attached is an Excel spreadsheet
for Firestar W & B.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lonewolf1 <ronzfunmail@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone.Thanks for all your input.It's great to have people with lot's
> of t time in the seat to ask advice of.I want to double check the weight and
> balance on my early Firestar 1.Anybody have any info?Travis at kolb couldn't
> help me....THX
>
> --------
> Ron
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342428#342428
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
Hi all...I love flying my M3X without the doors on...in fact they are off right
now ! Like riding in a convertible ,but more fun !
Chris Ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
Oh yeah....make sure everything is tied down in the cockpit !!!!lol
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru
N327CS
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
ha ha ha that is how I lost my airworthiness Cert once
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: ces308 <ces308@ldaco.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 6:40 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III?
Oh yeah....make sure everything is tied down in the cockpit !!!!lol
chris ambrose
3X/Jabiru
327CS
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Subject: | Re: Handling issues with the doors off on a Mark III? |
That is worth bookmarking.
Here's another excellent source if you need bearings. Fast and
reliable. Check the "take your time" box for
shipping. They will still arrive incredibly fast.
http://www.vxb.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc
BB
On 8, Jun 2011, at 6:02 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Here's a selection of lift struts at Surplus Center that might yield
one to use on Kolb doors. None is more the $4.99.
>
> http://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catname=misc&keyword=XG11
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> To avoid paying high prices for pneumatic lift struts, I found a much
cheaper and simpler alternative. Boats sometimes have hatches held open
with springs which are stiff enough to stay in column unless you push on
them in the middle, when they collapse. I bought one from West Marine
for about $11, tried it and liked so bought another for the other door.
This was on a Rans S6, not my Slingshot.
>
> Here is a link to a fancier model than the ones I used but the
principle is the same.
> http://tinyurl.com/3heae4g
>
> --------
> Thom Riddle
> Buffalo, NY (9G0)
> Kolb Slingshot SS-021
> Jabiru 2200A #1574
> Tennessee Prop 64x32
>
> Truth is what stands the test of experience.
> - Albert Einstein
>
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>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342427#342427
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> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
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> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
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