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1. 05:49 AM - Re: Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors (Charlie England)
2. 06:37 AM - Re: Four wingtips are NOT better than two ()
3. 07:46 AM - home from rock house (B Young)
4. 12:21 PM - Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (Thom Riddle)
5. 01:46 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (b young)
6. 01:48 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (ces308)
7. 01:53 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? ()
8. 03:25 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (Thom Riddle)
9. 03:36 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (zeprep251@aol.com)
10. 05:11 PM - Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors (Dennis Thate)
11. 06:19 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (William Long)
12. 06:27 PM - Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors (Dennis Thate)
13. 06:43 PM - Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? (Dana Hague)
14. 10:28 PM - Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors (Dennis Thate)
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Subject: | Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors |
On 6/11/2011 10:17 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Dennis Thate"<retroman@frontier.com>
>
> *********The three and half minute bifold door ****************
>
> It's been a momentous task, over budget, behind schedule, several redo's. But
the end result was well worth all the extra effort. I no longer have to fold
the wings on my Kolb Firestar II.
>
> But the frosting on the cake was the real bonding experience with my son Ross.
Without his talent, skill and determination I would have never attempted such
a daunting task !
>
>
> Enjoy !
Congrats, Dennis; that's a fine looking piece of hardware.
Now, I might be even more interested in the building itself. The
previous shots of the exterior make it look like it might be a pre-fab'd
metal building, but the interior shot seems to show a beautiful wood
truss & decking structure. Was it a kit, or were the curved trusses
built up by someone on-site?
Thanks,
Charlie
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Subject: | Re: Four wingtips are NOT better than two |
> I flew my Ultrastar without the center gap seal... once. Never again! Poor pitch
control, poor climb, not fun. I didn't try any stalls, just once around the
pattern, kept the speed up on final, just get out down.
>
> -Dana
Ditto!
Experienced same thing with my US.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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Subject: | home from rock house |
I got home from the rock house last night,,, another wonderful trip,,,,
I had the privilege to meet some new friends, and I think I can speak for
everyone, we all had a wonderful time, Thanks go to Larry and Karen
for their hospitality, It seems they go to a lot of extra work and expense
to host the gathering.
Boyd young
Do not archive
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Subject: | Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
When on the ground, my Slingshot seems to lag a bit from rudder pedal application
to steering response. There is a pre-tension on the springs but I suspect the
response could be improved by increasing the pre-tension, which begs the question
why springs at all? What is the purpose of the steering springs? I've flown
a Sonex with no steering springs at all and it seemed to handle fine on the
ground and its tail weight is very very light compared to my Slingshot. I don't
plan to eliminate the steering springs on my Slingshot but am considering
increasing the pre-tension in hopes of improving the steering response.
Any thoughts, preferably based on experience, will be much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
When on the ground, my Slingshot seems to lag a bit from rudder pedal
application to steering response. There is a pre-tension on the springs but
I suspect the response could be improved by increasing the pre-tension,
which begs the question why springs at all? What is the purpose of the
steering springs? I've flown a Sonex with no steering springs at all and it
seemed to handle fine on the ground and its tail weight is very very light
compared to my Slingshot. I don't plan to eliminate the steering springs on
my Slingshot but am considering increasing the pre-tension in hopes of
improving the steering response.
Any thoughts, preferably based on experience, will be much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Thom
have you ever been in a tail dragger when the tail wheel fluttered on
landing? without some type of dynamic dampening something would break /
bend. you should be able to make for a more positive control with stiffer
springs... but make sure they are not so stiff that the tail wheel wont
break free when needed, maybe more or different grease,,, or less sand
and dirt in the bearings, would make it turn more easily.
boyd young
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
Hi Thom,
I was having a problem turning my M3X and I took the edge off the detent on the
tail wheel.I took just enough off so it would stay straight,but would turn at
the least amount of pressure applied.Turns great now .
Just a thought...oh yeah...I assumed the springs were to take some of the stress
off the rudder.....????
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
Springs included in Kolb kits are very light. In other than ideal conditions they
are not stiff enough to transmit rudder input to the tailwheel horn.
I use Maule compression springs on my MKIII.
You could use stiffer springs and probably work much better.
I believe the tailwheel springs prevent damage to the rudder when taxiing, especially
rough conditions. I can see direct/hard linkage between tailwheel horn
and rudder horn causing damage.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
Thanks for your responses. All useful information. If it looks like I have enough
unused portion on my compression springs, I will reduce the chains by one link
and see how it does. If not enough unused space i'll buy longer springs of
similar rate and pre-tension them a bit more.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
Thom,
Stiffened up the tail springs on a MK3. Helped ground handling in cross win
ds. May go a little stiffer yet.A no spring connection may possibly get you
into trouble control wise if the tail wheel should lock up or freeze
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2011 3:21 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT?
When on the ground, my Slingshot seems to lag a bit from rudder pedal
application to steering response. There is a pre-tension on the springs but
I
suspect the response could be improved by increasing the pre-tension, which
begs
the question why springs at all? What is the purpose of the steering spring
s?
I've flown a Sonex with no steering springs at all and it seemed to handle
fine
on the ground and its tail weight is very very light compared to my Slingsh
ot. I
don't plan to eliminate the steering springs on my Slingshot but am conside
ring
increasing the pre-tension in hopes of improving the steering response.
Any thoughts, preferably based on experience, will be much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors |
ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne wrote:
> On 6/11/2011 10:17 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > *********The three and half minute bifold door ****************
> >
> > It's been a momentous task, over budget, behind schedule, several redo's.
But the end result was well worth all the extra effort. I no longer have to fold
the wings on my Kolb Firestar II.
> >
> > But the frosting on the cake was the real bonding experience with my son Ross.
Without his talent, skill and determination I would have never attempted
such a daunting task !
> >
> >
> > Enjoy !
> > Congrats, Dennis; that's a fine looking piece of hardware.
> >
>
>
> Now, I might be even more interested in the building itself. The
> previous shots of the exterior make it look like it might be a pre-fab'd
> metal building, but the interior shot seems to show a beautiful wood
> truss & decking structure. Was it a kit, or were the curved trusses
> built up by someone on-site?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
PreFab rafters assembled on Site in 1961. Covered over in metal 5 years ago. Quonset
roofs seemed to be the rage back then, but as the walls commonly pushed
out and the roofs sagged from years of heavy spring rainfall, the quonset soon
fell out of vogue in this region of the country.
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
With my Firefly I found that heavier springs helped but sometimes you just have
to add power half way into your landing to get her back on track.
Bill Long
Holt MI (MI38)
________________________________
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, June 12, 2011 3:18:42 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT?
When on the ground, my Slingshot seems to lag a bit from rudder pedal
application to steering response. There is a pre-tension on the springs but I
suspect the response could be improved by increasing the pre-tension, which begs
the question why springs at all? What is the purpose of the steering springs?
I've flown a Sonex with no steering springs at all and it seemed to handle fine
on the ground and its tail weight is very very light compared to my Slingshot.
I
don't plan to eliminate the steering springs on my Slingshot but am considering
increasing the pre-tension in hopes of improving the steering response.
Any thoughts, preferably based on experience, will be much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors |
Photos of some of the details. Happy to share any of my many photos.
I will post a final shot with the Kolb inside after all the finished work is done
and grass is up.
Happy Flying !
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel steering SPRINGS or NOT? |
Hit a rock or something, the shock on the tail could be pretty severe if you don't
have springs. It's a taildragger; there's gonna be some lag.
-Dana
b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
When on the ground, my Slingshot seems to lag a bit from rudder pedal
application to steering response. There is a pre-tension on the springs but
I suspect the response could be improved by increasing the pre-tension,
which begs the question why springs at all? What is the purpose of the
steering springs? I've flown a Sonex with no steering springs at all and it
seemed to handle fine on the ground and its tail weight is very very light
compared to my Slingshot. I don't plan to eliminate the steering springs on
my Slingshot but am considering increasing the pre-tension in hopes of
improving the steering response.
Any thoughts, preferably based on experience, will be much appreciated.
--------
Thom Riddle
Thom
have you ever been in a tail dragger when the tail wheel fluttered on
landing? without some type of dynamic dampening something would break /
bend. you should be able to make for a more positive control with stiffer
springs... but make sure they are not so stiff that the tail wheel wont
break free when needed, maybe more or different grease,,, or less sand
and dirt in the bearings, would make it turn more easily.
boyd young
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Subject: | Re: Bi-Fold Aircraft Doors |
Above all .....Keep it Simple !
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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