---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/14/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:43 AM - B-17 gone (william sullivan) 2. 06:34 AM - Re: B-17 gone (Dennis Thate) 3. 08:19 AM - Re: B-17 gone (Pat Ladd) 4. 09:17 PM - Tail spring... (Nick Cassara) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:36 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: B-17 gone - Sad news in this morning's paper.- The Liberty Foundation's B-17 caug ht fire, and made an emergency landing in a corn field near Chicago.- Tot ally destroyed.- All got out, with one minor injury.- It used to belong to Pratt and Whitney, and when I was a kid we used to park at the end of t heir runway and watch it take off.- Then it went to the air museum here i n town, and was heavily damaged in the tornado of 1979.- Sold to the foun dation, rebuilt, and I last saw it in Hartford last year.- It will be mis sed.- It was a beautiful airplane. - do not archive ------------------------- ------------------------- - Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- - Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- - still a fan of B-17's ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:12 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: B-17 gone From: "Dennis Thate" Here's the link http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/n...,5339638.story I once worked with a friend who was a B-17 ball turret gunner because of his small size. He witnessed from his B-17 ball turret an entire fully loaded box explode into a ball of fire and disappear over France enroute to a target. That was 10 planes with 10 crew on each. -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342942#342942 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:31 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: B-17 gone B-17 caught fire,>> That is really bad news. There are few enough of these machines left. Although the box formation which the US Air Force put such trust in proved not so effective as hoped when they went into action the B 17 was an incredible plane. I was looking round one when I was in the States some years ago and talking to the guide who had been a B`7 gunner in the UK. I said` She has the nose addition so she must have been a mark G so you must have been stationed at Framlingham` I was right and having established that I had some idea what I was talking about we got into a very interesting discussion about the war etc. At this point a guy about 45 with a small child intow came through the fuselage. He rapped with his knuckles on the aluminium skin and said to the guide. `Is this all you had to keep the bullets out" The gunner looked at me and rolled his eyes in disbelief. I shall always remember his expression. Incidentally I came across these statistics recently 276000 a/c were built in the US 14000 were lost in the USA 43000 lost oversea Out of that 276000 planes only (?) 23000 were lost in actual combat The B 17 cost $204370. each the most produced aircraft was the Russian Sturmovik Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:15 PM PST US From: "Nick Cassara" Subject: Kolb-List: Tail spring... Rick, I and probable others, would love to see a picture of you tail wheel modifications, could you post a picture for us? A picture of reduced file size that is..J Thanks, Nick Cassara Palmer, Alaska Working way to much.no building for two months ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.