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1. 08:57 AM - Re: Tail spring... (Richard Girard)
2. 09:18 AM - Transporting a Firefly (Herb)
3. 10:08 AM - Flight West Numbers ()
4. 10:37 AM - Re: Transporting a Firefly (Richard Girard)
5. 11:37 AM - A Look into the future of flight (Dennis Thate)
6. 11:49 AM - Re: Transporting a Firefly (pcking)
7. 01:02 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
8. 01:10 PM - Re: Transporting a Firefly (Dana Hague)
9. 01:10 PM - Re: Transporting a Firefly (Dana Hague)
10. 02:07 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers ()
11. 02:11 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers ()
12. 02:57 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers (robert bean)
13. 03:13 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers (russ kinne)
14. 04:24 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers ()
15. 04:53 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers (TheWanderingWench)
16. 05:29 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers (b young)
17. 06:27 PM - Re: Flight West Numbers ()
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| Subject: | Re: Tail spring... |
Nick, There are three Ricks on here, that I know of, anyway. Which one?
Rick Girard
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
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> I and probable others, would love to see a picture of you tail wheel
> modifications, could you post a picture for us? A picture of reduced file
> size that is=85.J
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> Thanks,
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> Nick Cassara
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> Palmer, Alaska
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> Working way to much=85no building for two months
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| Subject: | Transporting a Firefly |
> Got me thinking...gonna transport my Firefly... I cut the top
> from a sailplane trailer...and made a dolly for the boom tube...it
> rolls in tracks that were already in the trailer...Will need to add
> some height to make an air dam for the tail feathers and
> wing...Will also add some support for the wings toward the rear...
> Towing the plane backwards...
wondering how far toward the front of the plane to set the boom
support? Herb
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| Subject: | Flight West Numbers |
Thought some may be interested in the numbers of my flight from Titus, Alabama,
to the Rock House, Oregon:
-Total distance flown: 1,930.6 sm
-Flight time: 25.6 hours
-Fuel: 140.3 gal
-Average speed: 75.4 mph
-Fuel consumption: 5.5 gph
-Fuel bill @ 5.70 a gal: $800.00
Since I have been at the Rock House, I have flown 12.7 hours, burned another 70.0
gal fuel @ 4.00 a gal, 280.00.
Flying ain't cheap, but it is a lot of fun. Guess it is worth what I pay for it.
Getting ready for my return flight to Alabama, through Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming,
Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama. Hope to make
this one in the normal four days, but prepared for what Mother Nature throws at
me.
john h
Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting a Firefly |
I would right next to the stabilzers. I would also recommend putting
something under each main gear tire to absorb shocks from pot holes and tar
strips.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Herb <herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
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>
> Got me thinking...gonna transport my Firefly... I cut the top from a
>> sailplane trailer...and made a dolly for the boom tube...it rolls in tracks
>> that were already in the trailer...Will need to add some height to make an
>> air dam for the tail feathers and wing...Will also add some support for the
>> wings toward the rear... Towing the plane backwards...
>>
>
>
> wondering how far toward the front of the plane to set the boom support?
> Herb
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | A Look into the future of flight |
http://youtu.be/cAGT5A589xE
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2386917,00.asp
Hope I live long enough to see this technology leap happen.
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Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting a Firefly |
Herb,
Are you hauling your Firefly on the road? Soaring is filled with stories
of sailplanes arriving at their destination with instrument needles in
the bottom of the dials. Can you remove your panel? If not, make sure
that your plane is sprung to absorb road shock. Can your folding wing
hinges handle road shock? Would they be safer in cradles? You have to
prep a plane to go over the road.
PCKing
gliderpilot
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From: Richard Girard
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Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Transporting a Firefly
I would right next to the stabilzers. I would also recommend putting
something under each main gear tire to absorb shocks from pot holes and
tar strips.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Herb <herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
Got me thinking...gonna transport my Firefly... I cut the top
from a sailplane trailer...and made a dolly for the boom tube...it rolls
in tracks that were already in the trailer...Will need to add some
height to make an air dam for the tail feathers and wing...Will also add
some support for the wings toward the rear... Towing the plane
backwards...
wondering how far toward the front of the plane to set the boom
support? Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
John h
That is a beautiful mountain picture you attached. Got any more?
Looks like you got about 13.86 MPG.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
In a message dated 6/15/2011 1:08:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
-Total distance flown: 1,930.6 sm
-Fuel: 140.3 gal
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting a Firefly |
The boom support should be directly under the folded wing support on the boom.
-Dana
Herb <herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
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>> Got me thinking...gonna transport my Firefly... I cut the top
>> from a sailplane trailer...and made a dolly for the boom tube...it
>> rolls in tracks that were already in the trailer...Will need to add
>> some height to make an air dam for the tail feathers and
>> wing...Will also add some support for the wings toward the rear...
>> Towing the plane backwards...
>
>
> wondering how far toward the front of the plane to set the boom
>support? Herb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting a Firefly |
The boom support should be directly under the folded wing support on the boom.
-Dana
Herb <herbgh@nctc.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Got me thinking...gonna transport my Firefly... I cut the top
>> from a sailplane trailer...and made a dolly for the boom tube...it
>> rolls in tracks that were already in the trailer...Will need to add
>> some height to make an air dam for the tail feathers and
>> wing...Will also add some support for the wings toward the rear...
>> Towing the plane backwards...
>
>
> wondering how far toward the front of the plane to set the boom
>support? Herb
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
> That is a beautiful mountain picture you attached. Got any more?
> Looks like you got about 13.86 MPG.
> -
>
> Bill Varnes
Not very good mileage for a VW, but the environment I was flying in explains my
fuel burn.
The first 8 hours of my flight was a headwind, cruising 80 with a ground speed
of 50 to 70 mph.
Between Laramie and Rawlins, WY, I got down to 35 mph ground speed at 10.500 feet,
and 28F.
My normal average mileage is about 17-18 mpg.
Three more photos of the Owyhee River Canyon south of Rome Station, Oregon, and
a shot of Larry Cottrell over the desert between the Owyhee and the Rock House.
Started getting the MKIII loaded and ready to take off for home tomorrow. Don't
want to leave good company, but I have been on the road over three weeks and
my chores are waiting for me when I get back to hauck's holler.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
> That is a beautiful mountain picture you attached. Got any more?
>
> Bill Varnes
Bill: That photo was of the mountains just east of Brigham City, Utah, home of
Boyd Young.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
John, looking at your window vent... I'm about ready to cut one and wonder if that
is an optimum location as far
as blowing on you.
BB
On 15, Jun 2011, at 5:03 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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>> That is a beautiful mountain picture you attached. Got any more?
>> Looks like you got about 13.86 MPG.
>> -
>>
>> Bill Varnes
>
>
> Not very good mileage for a VW, but the environment I was flying in explains
my fuel burn.
>
> The first 8 hours of my flight was a headwind, cruising 80 with a ground speed
of 50 to 70 mph.
>
> Between Laramie and Rawlins, WY, I got down to 35 mph ground speed at 10.500
feet, and 28F.
>
> My normal average mileage is about 17-18 mpg.
>
> Three more photos of the Owyhee River Canyon south of Rome Station, Oregon, and
a shot of Larry Cottrell over the desert between the Owyhee and the Rock House.
>
> Started getting the MKIII loaded and ready to take off for home tomorrow. Don't
want to leave good company, but I have been on the road over three weeks and
my chores are waiting for me when I get back to hauck's holler.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Burns Junction, Oregon
> <DSCF0152 (1000x750).jpg><DSCF0163 (1000x750).jpg><DSCF0177 (1000x750).jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
Delighted you finally had a good visit at the Rock House -- you surely paid for
it. And thanx for sharing your trip details with all of us.
Great pic! -- where is it? Mountains sure are purty --
Russ K
On Jun 15, 2011, at 1:05 PM, jhauck@elmore.rr.com wrote:
>
> Thought some may be interested in the numbers of my flight from Titus, Alabama,
to the Rock House, Oregon:
>
> -Total distance flown: 1,930.6 sm
>
> -Flight time: 25.6 hours
>
> -Fuel: 140.3 gal
>
> -Average speed: 75.4 mph
>
> -Fuel consumption: 5.5 gph
>
> -Fuel bill @ 5.70 a gal: $800.00
>
> Since I have been at the Rock House, I have flown 12.7 hours, burned another
70.0 gal fuel @ 4.00 a gal, 280.00.
>
> Flying ain't cheap, but it is a lot of fun. Guess it is worth what I pay for
it.
>
> Getting ready for my return flight to Alabama, through Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming,
Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama. Hope to make
this one in the normal four days, but prepared for what Mother Nature throws
at me.
>
> john h
> Burns Junction, Oregon<DSCF0048 (1024x768).jpg>
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
> John, looking at your window vent... I'm about ready to cut one and wonder if
that is an optimum location as far
> as blowing on you.
> BB
Bob B: For me it is. The left vent blows on my body or left leg, and the right
vent blows under my right leg.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
John -
Can you be a little more specific about your route home? I'm planning on fl
ying to Oshkosh this summer and looking for a good route across Wyoming. Th
e fellow I'll be flying with is looking at going across southern Idaho, up
to Kemmerer, WY, then to Rock Springs, Rawlins, Casper, Gillette, making a
side trip to Devil's Tower, and then into South Dakota. Looks like your fli
ght path will take you across southern Wyoming into Nebraska. I'll be very
interested in your actual flight route and what you encounter.- Keep us p
osted!
Arty
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
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--- On Wed, 6/15/11, jhauck@elmore.rr.com <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Flight West Numbers
Thought some may be interested in the numbers of my flight from Titus, Alab
ama, to the Rock House, Oregon:
-Total distance flown:- 1,930.6 sm
-Flight time:- 25.6 hours
-Fuel:- 140.3 gal
-Average speed:- 75.4 mph
-Fuel consumption:- 5.5 gph
-Fuel bill @ 5.70 a gal:- $800.00
Since I have been at the Rock House, I have flown 12.7 hours, burned anothe
r 70.0 gal fuel @ 4.00 a gal, 280.00.
Flying ain't cheap, but it is a lot of fun.- Guess it is worth what I pay
for it.
Getting ready for my return flight to Alabama, through Oregon, Idaho, Wyomi
ng, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Alabama.- Hope
to make this one in the normal four days, but prepared for what Mother Nat
ure throws at me.
john h
Burns Junction, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
> John, looking at your window vent... I'm about ready to cut one and wonder
> if that is an optimum location as far
> as blowing on you.
> BB
in place of the snap in vents i went with something easy and cheep. i
located them in the same location that john has.
what i have done is , in a straight line, i drilled a 1 1/4 inch hole,
then a 3/16 inch pivot hole, then another 1 1/4 inch hole, with about 1/2
to 3/4 inch between the holes,
then i cut aprox a 4 inch circle of lexan, and matched drilled the holes,
then bolted the 4 inch lexan circle on inside of the door, with the holes
lined up i get a good air flow, when the 4 inch cir, is rotated 90 deg,
so the holes are not in alignment, there is no air flow, line the holes up
a little, little air, lined up full, max air. one of my best mods.
boyd young
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| Subject: | Re: Flight West Numbers |
> Can you be a little more specific about your route home?
>
> Arty
Arty:
Plan on a visit to Rigby, ID, RON, then south to Alpine, WY. East through the
pass and thread my way through the mountain to Big Piney, and Rawlins to Laramie
direct to Goodland, KS.
Generally a challenge to fly the Rockies. I never stick to a hard flight plan,
but am constantly changing and updating my flight plan to suit me based on winds
and weather. Easy to do in flight with a Garmin 196.
Rivers, rail roads, highways. Rivers are lowest, then rail roads, and finally
highways. Highways usually give you a pretty good forced landing area if you
don't get run over. I have a lot of confidence in the 912 and usually fly direct
unless weather forces me to do otherwise.
For me, on long cross country flights, shortest distance is important.
john h
mkIII
Burns Junction, Oregon
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