---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/06/11: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: A little better day at Black Rock (Dana Hague) 2. 05:23 AM - Re: Newbie (Richard Pike) 3. 05:23 AM - Too ht and sexy for my doors (Vic Peters) 4. 05:24 AM - Re: A little better day at Black Rock (Mike Welch) 5. 05:36 AM - Re: A little better day at Black Rock (Richard Girard) 6. 06:00 AM - Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (Mike Welch) 7. 06:02 AM - Re: A little better day at Black Rock (Mike Welch) 8. 06:26 AM - Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (Thom Riddle) 9. 06:38 AM - Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (olendorf) 10. 07:07 AM - Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (Vic Peters) 11. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: A little better day at Black Rock (b young) 12. 09:49 AM - Looking for info about route to Oshkosh (TheWanderingWench) 13. 01:47 PM - Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (olendorf) 14. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors (b young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:09 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: A little better day at Black Rock At 07:37 PM 7/5/2011, SS568 wrote: >You sort of answered my question about having the stick in the center. In >a time of quick decision, the stick was right there and you did not have >to compensate for it being off to the side. David, there's nothing to "compensate" for. Many aircraft, including modern fighters, have side sticks. Some pilots prefer it to a center stick, some do not, just as some prefer a stick vs. a control wheel (yoke). The only real advantage to a center stick is the ability to fly with either hand if you need the other hand to do something (e.g. tuning radios, etc.). During normal flying, you don't even notice where it is. -Dana -- "Just think how stupid the average person is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider!" --George Carlin ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:02 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Newbie From: "Richard Pike" John Hauck wrote: > > > My biggest problem is adjusting to operation of the flap with my right hand. > I keep reaching for the handle with my left hand when I start flying from > the left seat. > > john h > mkIII > Titus, Alabama I understand. My car has the garage door opener in the console, the wife's car has it above the rear view mirror. Which means that whenever I am approaching the garage, the right hand is waving around uncertain of where to mash. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345091#345091 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:16 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Too ht and sexy for my doors From: "Vic Peters" Hi all Anything I should be mindful of when removing one or both doors for cooler flight in my Xtra? -------- Vic 912ul Xtra Maine Too old to cut the mustard but not the cheese. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345092#345092 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:06 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: A little better day at Black Rock Rick=2C The ELT locator radio is one of the last things I need install=2C and I n oticed yours in your photos. I haven't decided on a final location=2C but at the moment I'm leaning toward the "under the passenger seat" position. By any chance=2C did you notice if your ELT beacon went off? Do you now have to report your accident to the FAA? What about logbook entries for the repair s/etc? I'm curious because I don't know how an "experimental" plane handles things like this. I've got a pretty good idea about certified planes and accidents=2C just no t in this case. Mike Welch ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:31 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A little better day at Black Rock From: Richard Girard Except for the Kolb list, I'm not telling anybody anything. I have a local offer of a kit for less than the price of a fuselage truss from the factory. If that works out, I'll build it and store the wreckage for this winter. No, I never turn the ELT on. It's there to be legal, nothing else. If I were flying cross country, I'd turn it on, but in the pattern there's no point. Besides, it's a 121.5 unit and they're not monitored anyway. Maybe I'll elect to install a 406 Mhz unit someday, but the price is going to have to come down by 70% before I do. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Mike Welch wrote: > Rick, > > The ELT locator radio is one of the last things I need install, and I > noticed > yours in your photos. I haven't decided on a final location, but at the > moment > I'm leaning toward the "under the passenger seat" position. > > By any chance, did you notice if your ELT beacon went off? Do you now > have to > report your accident to the FAA? What about logbook entries for the > repairs/etc? > I'm curious because I don't know how an "experimental" plane handles things > like this. > I've got a pretty good idea about certified planes and accidents, just not > in this case. > > Mike Welch > > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:20 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Too ht and sexy for my doors Vic=2C That your seat belts are nice and tight.. >Hi all > Anything I should be mindful of when removing one or both doors for coole r flight in my Xtra? > Vic ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:49 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: A little better day at Black Rock Sounds like a plan!! Your secret is safe with us. : ) Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A little better day at Black Rock From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com Except for the Kolb list=2C I'm not telling anybody anything. I have a loca l offer of a kit for less than the price of a fuselage truss from the facto ry. If that works out=2C I'll build it and store the wreckage for this wint er. No=2C I never turn the ELT on. It's there to be legal=2C nothing else. If I were flying cross country=2C I'd turn it on=2C but in the pattern there's no point. Besides=2C it's a 121.5 unit and they're not monitored anyway. Ma ybe I'll elect to install a 406 Mhz unit someday=2C but the price is going to have to come down by 70% before I do. On Wed=2C Jul 6=2C 2011 at 7:21 AM=2C Mike Welch wrote: Rick=2C The ELT locator radio is one of the last things I need install=2C and I n oticed yours in your photos. I haven't decided on a final location=2C but at the moment I'm leaning toward the "under the passenger seat" position. By any chance=2C did you notice if your ELT beacon went off? Do you now have to report your accident to the FAA? What about logbook entries for the repair s/etc? I'm curious because I don't know how an "experimental" plane handles things like this. I've got a pretty good idea about certified planes and accidents=2C just no t in this case. Mike Welch get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:24 AM PST US From: Thom Riddle Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Too ht and sexy for my doors Vic, Just a guess but I suspect if flying with one door removed you will experience some yaw effects, could be more than you want. My Kolb only has a flip-over canopy so I can't say for certain. Thom Riddle Slingshot On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Vic Peters wrote: > > Hi all > Anything I should be mindful of when removing one or both doors for cooler > flight in my Xtra? > > -------- > Vic > 912ul Xtra > Maine > Too old to cut the mustard but not the cheese. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345092#345092 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:38:56 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors From: "olendorf" My ASI is way off when I remove my doors. I would suggest you go up to a safe height and verify your indicated stall speed. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345104#345104 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:46 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors From: "Vic Peters" Scott Do you have a static line connected also? -------- Vic 912ul Xtra Maine Too old to cut the mustard but not the cheese. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345105#345105 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:34 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: A little better day at Black Rock Dana wrote the only real advantage to a center stick is the ability to fly with either hand if you need the other hand to do something (e.g. tuning radios, etc.). During normal flying, you don't even notice where it is. -Dana >>>>>>>>>>>> to help with the either hand bit i built my stick, center mounted mkiii stock design, to something i can use with either hand by extending the top of the stick to the left, kind of looks like the number "7" the top left part can be reached with my left hand very easily to give my right arm a rest during a long flight. boyd young ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:14 AM PST US From: TheWanderingWench Subject: Kolb-List: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh Hi folks - On Tuesday, July 19, four "fat ultralights" (all registered E-LSAs) will be leaving Sandy, Oregon to fly to Oshkosh for EAA AirVenture. We all have 2- cycle engines and plan to fly IFR. (I follow roads.) Here is the route we're thinking about taking. http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212033171749363263482.0004a3349abce15 9efad6&msa=0 If any of you have live along or have flown portions of this route, we'd ap preciate hearing- your comments and suggestions. Checking out sectionals and Google Earth goes just so far - we'd love to hear from about better pos sibilities, not-to-be-missed airports and sights, etc. Thanks for any info you're willing to share. Arty Trost Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm =0A =0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing" =0A Helen Keller =0A =0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:47:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors From: "olendorf" I have a static port in a tube right under the pitot tube but this gave a reading that was too high or too low, I can't remember. So I added a T connector which splits the static between inside the nosecone and the static tube. That is usually right on the money until I take my doors off. -------- Scott Olendorf Original Firestar, Rotax 447, Powerfin prop Schenectady, NY http://sites.google.com/site/kolbfirestar/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345168#345168 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:54 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Too ht and sexy for my doors I have a static port in a tube right under the pitot tube but this gave a reading that was too high or too low, I can't remember. So I added a T connector which splits the static between inside the nosecone and the static tube. That is usually right on the money until I take my doors off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if you can figure if the inside is higher or lower pressure than the static probe.... if the static pressure is too high, you can put a small wahser just before the static hole and decrease the static pressure. if the static pressure is too low, you can put a small washer just behind the static hole and increase the pressure, moving the washer further forward or further back from the static opening, will reduce the effect.,,,, or a smaller washer will reduce the effect. boyd young mkiii utah ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.