---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/24/11: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Re: Florida Video (Sky Biker) 2. 04:48 AM - Aixro XR50 (chris davis) 3. 04:55 AM - Re: New Camera Mount (william sullivan) 4. 05:06 AM - Re: Aixro XR50 (william sullivan) 5. 06:57 AM - Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT (racerjerry) 6. 07:21 AM - What mic cover/muff do you use? (gotime242) 7. 11:09 AM - Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? (HShack@aol.com) 8. 11:37 AM - Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? (russ kinne) 9. 11:57 AM - Re: new camera mount. (Arksey@aol.com) 10. 12:05 PM - Sunday morning flying (Thom Riddle) 11. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: new camera mount. (Phil) 12. 01:06 PM - No N number (SS568) 13. 02:00 PM - Re: Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT (b young) 14. 02:08 PM - Re: No N number (Gregory S Taylor) 15. 05:14 PM - Re: No N number (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 16. 05:16 PM - Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? (pete) 17. 05:34 PM - Re: No N number (gliderx5@comcast.net) 18. 06:24 PM - Re: No N number (SS568) 19. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: Oshkosh (Arksey@aol.com) 20. 06:40 PM - Re: Re: No N number (Richard Girard) 21. 06:45 PM - new video...oil cooler test flight (ces308) 22. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: new camera mount. (Arksey@aol.com) 23. 07:12 PM - Re: New Camera Mount (ces308) 24. 07:36 PM - Re: New Camera Mount (Mystic) 25. 08:23 PM - Re: Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT (Richard Girard) 26. 08:38 PM - Re: Re: No N number (b young) 27. 09:01 PM - Re: Re: No N number (Richard Girard) 28. 09:14 PM - Re: Re: No N number (Bob) 29. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: No N number (Richard Girard) 30. 11:11 PM - Re: Re: No N number (b young) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:24 AM PST US From: Sky Biker Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Florida Video Great video and now you have seen my world as I live just south of the rive r and between Clewiston and LaBelle. If you was to have followed SR 80 whi ch is parallaled the river you would have seen the hang glider field and tu gs towing them up. Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Florida Video From: neilsenrm@gmail.com David Thanks. That was a real treat watching the video. I have flew from Lansing =2C MI to Oshkosh=2C WI with Steven Green usually watching that fat two bla ded IVO pushing Steven's plane much faster than I could fly. I also flew Fa t Albert all day at the old Kolb factory just before flying my MKIII for th e first time. Then again a few years later at New Kolb getting a biannual c heck ride. It looks different now. I spend all winter in Florida and now re nt to get airborn during the winter months. I have never flown over that ar ea so it was great. I assume that that was the cross Florida intercostal wa ter way. Thanks again. Packing for Oshkosh. Rick Neilsen1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC On Sun=2C Jul 17=2C 2011 at 6:12 PM=2C Watkinsdw wrote: Hi=2C Kolbers=2C Thought you might enjoy this video shot by a friend yesterday as a flight o f five flew from Airglades (2IS) in Clewiston=2C Florida to Labelle (X14). There were two Kolbs=2C a Flyboy=2C (Czech plane) and two Drifters. The yel low MKIII is "Fat Albert=2C" one of the original Kolb factory demo's=2C flo wn by Peter Volum=2C who has owned her for 12 years. Mine=2C the red and ye llow MKIII was built by Stephen Green=2C and I've owned her for 2.5 happy y ears. The two drifters are based at Airglades=2C and are flown by two long-time u ltralighters=2C Andy and Paul. The Flyboy=2C and Fat Albert are based at "Richards"=2C a private grass str ip NE of Homestead General (X51.) A great day was had by all=2C as we checked out some open land that Andy is thinking of developing as a fly-in camping retreat near Labelle. You can see that this part of South Florida has just received some much nee ded rain=2C after a severe drought this spring. They got 5 inches in about 24 hours. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYfAUt8MlqE Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346803#346803 arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com le=2C List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:10 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: Aixro XR50 Has anyone dealt with this engine? Know the Price etc?weight?any other rotary engine within reason price wise? Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:36 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Camera Mount - John- Great!- Not too much vibration, and incredible clarity.- With the camera mounted by the tail, it gives a completely different perspectiv e than most of the videos.- Do more. - Where are you? - ------------------------- -------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- -------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ---------------------FS 447 --- On Sat, 7/23/11, Mystic wrote: From: Mystic Subject: Kolb-List: New Camera Mount http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFmsacX2fT4 John Tempest Firestar "Classic" 447 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347511#347511 le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:50 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Aixro XR50 - Chris- Looks very interesting.- I couldn't seem to find details in a short search.- I hope you can.- They do sell an aircraft model- XR40- b ut no specs or price on that.- What about reduction?- They are saying o ver 10k rpm max.?- Something to keep in mind if the rumor of the 447 demi se is true.- Vibration would be way down. - ------------------------- ----------------- Bill Sullivan --- On Sun, 7/24/11, chris davis wrote: From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: Aixro XR50 Has anyone dealt with this engine? Know the Price etc?weight?any other rota ry engine within reason price wise? -Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT From: "racerjerry" I am assuming that you are speaking of a new axle weldment or axle shaft at the WHEEL end of the aluminum landing gear leg. The job is not easy. It helps if you #1 Get lucky #2 Have a good friend with a machine shop Let me describe a method which is best done on a rigid Bridgeport mill. Set up your airplane on a garage / hangar floor with new weldment (axle shaft) in place. Set everything up at the desired toe angle and carefully make an index mark on both weldment and gear leg where they join so that you are able to re-establish the same position after gear leg and weldment are removed from the airplane. You really need some weight on the wheel to get the correct settings, so you may have to re-check by clamping (pinching) the weldment to the gear leg or jam something in the socket to keep it from swiveling. After your index marks are made, you need to find a steel shaft to act as a guide pin which fits snug but will freely pass through the existing hole in the gear leg. I believe your Firestar uses an AN4 (1/4 inch) bolt to attach the weldment. I recommend a hardened steel dowel pin, but hack sawing the ends off of a long hard grade 8 bolt from the hardware store will work too. The guide pin needs to be hard or it can bend and screw up your setup. The idea is to place the guide pin in the mills drill chuck (with mill spindle lowered) and firmly clamp the gear leg to the mills table so that the guide pin will pass through the existing hole in the gear leg as the chuck is lowered. Next, the axle shaft / weldment is placed on the clamped gear leg with index marks lined up and a small pilot hole is drilled into the weldment. You need to start with a small drill bit and work up in steps so that you will put minimum pressure on the clamped gear leg so as to not move it out of position. After each drilling, you may want to remove the weldment and use the guide pin to check that the gear leg has not moved out of position. When you are ready to drill the final (1/4 inch) size, drill the hole so that it just breaks through the first side of the steel weldment tube and does not penetrate into the aluminum gear leg. You do not want to remove any aluminum with the drill bit. After the first side of the hole is drilled, it is tempting to keep going through to the other side DONT! Again, start with the small drill bits to slowly open up the opposite side of the tube. When you are ready for the final pass with the inch drill bit, the bit will quickly pass through, with minimum aluminum contact. I know that friends with Bridgeport mills are hard to come by and you may be tempted to try this procedure on a drill press. If you can at least use a drill press with a wide production table, it may give you enough room for a clamping fixture, but the mill is a lot more rigid and easier. Good luck and remember that if you are flying off a grass strip, your toe settings are not really all that critical. P.S. When making the index marks, you dont want to put deep scribed lines, especially circumferential ones, on the aluminum gear leg. Layout dye or a very light coat of spray paint will allow light scribing without digging into and marring the aluminum. The gear leg is rugged, but we want no excuses for a fatigue crack to start. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347543#347543 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use? From: "gotime242" Hello all, I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low windscreen, i basically have the wind coming directly at my head. I can communicate somewhat by having the volume way up (listen to static the whole time) and placing my hand over the mic when needing to talk. What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what people have found works best. Thanks! -Dylan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347546#347546 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:09:33 AM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use? You could extend your windshield up to the wing. [biggest improvement I have made to the FS II except maybe VG's]. Get a noise cancelling headset [the absolute best for a FS II is the Victor {ANR}. All this from memory but they are actually made & warranteed by Lightspeed. Look up "aircraft headsets" on eBay. You will find them on the first page for under $300. I think it comes with a foam mic muff. If I REALLY want to get my message through, I will cover the mic with my hand & maybe even cut engine rpm's some. Howard Shackleford FS II SC In a message dated 7/24/2011 10:22:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dylanshine@gmail.com writes: What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what people have found works best. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use? From: russ kinne Dylan Any time a mic is used in the wind, a wind-sock will improve xmission greatly. Just a tubular sleeve of foam-plastic, 1/4 or 1/2" thick, will do fine. You can just cut one out with scissors and tape it together. Look at the TV reporters --= they all use them. Russ On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:19 AM, gotime242 wrote: > > Hello all, > > I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low windscreen, i basically have the wind coming directly at my head. I can communicate somewhat by having the volume way up (listen to static the whole time) and placing my hand over the mic when needing to talk. > > What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what people have found works best. > > Thanks! > > -Dylan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347546#347546 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:25 AM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount. re: john tempest you tube video..... the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and mount. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start gathering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of interest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot than I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe flying...jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:05:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Sunday morning flying From: "Thom Riddle" Bob Bean and I agreed to meet at his place this morning and then to fly from there to Hendershot's fly-in (34NY) near the Ontario Lake shore just west of Rochester, NY. I figured BB would be waiting for me on the ground but as you will see in the video I took of my approach, and eventual landing, we almost met on final. I started filming long before I arrived at BB's so nothing much to see until the last minute or so. Just, beautiful WNY countryside. http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/wj8YzF1fnB8 I had planned to video our departure from BB's but the field was so rough, it joggled off the video function in my iPhone. Once airborne, though, I shot a bit of me following BB's SuzyQ powered MkIII. I was closer to BB in the air than it appears in this video. http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/a_GFF20vBPM -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347578#347578 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:30:34 PM PST US From: Phil Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount. Hi Jim: Sure is flat where you live. Nice, long runway! For a camera, I purchased the Tachyon OPS HD, $139 plus S/H ($152.84). I ha ve yet to receive it-("Coming this August"), but Tachyon-seems to be po pular and-I'm going on faith. http://www.tachyoninc.com/ For a mount, it seems to me vibration can be abated by attaching the camera to a "brick" and then soft-mounting the brick to your plane. Then, all you have to worry about is wind-buffeting. Now, who would want to affix a bric k to their plane? Well, probably someone that wants-vibration-free video. Catch-22. - When I get my camera, I'll test this theory, of course. Obviously, the theo ry is some kind of dead-weight that shrugs off vibration. Not necessarily a brick; maybe a 6" galvie or black-pipe nipple, 2" or 3" dia.? Phil H. - [future] Firefly --- On Sun, 7/24/11, Arksey@aol.com wrote: From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount. re: john tempest you tube video..... the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and mou nt. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start gath ering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of inte rest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot than I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe flying...jswa n - Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48 827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:06:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: No N number From: "SS568" There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem seating to a side by side. The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the inspection was not completed. I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner. Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with something else. Thanks, David d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347588#347588 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:34 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT to drill a new weldment into an existing axel. take a piece of tube that will fit over the axel that is is large enough to fit over the weldment. split the tube so it could be clamped on the axel without movement. place a bolt through the hole in the axel. and slide a small tube over both ends of the bolt these will serve as a drill alignment jig. weld the small tubes to the end of the tube that is clamped to the axel. pull the bolt out, then install the weldment at the proper alignment, now you have a drill alignment tube that is lined up with the hole in the axel. to modify this procedure to give you some adjustment,,, when installing the bolt through the axel.... use a 1/4 do ax 3/16 id tube for a bushing through the axel, then install a 3/16 inch rod through the bushing and axel hole, weld a 3/16 inch id drill guide tube to the split, clamped tube, then drill the weldment with a 3/16 inch drill.. leaving the bushing in place position the weldment on the plane with a 3/16 " bolt. check for alignment, if it is ok drill out the hole to fit, if not file or drill out the hole to correct the alignment then drill to final size, the biggest problem with this method is the tapered gear leg. that will make it harder to clamp to securely. so be careful. it may be necessary to make 3 or 4 splits and heat the tube so it can be bent to fit the taper. you can use this jig like a blind rivet hole locater. boyd young ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:08:10 PM PST US From: "Gregory S Taylor" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: No N number Dave, Not too long ago I sold a FS 1 back to the person I bought it off of because I found out from the FAA that if it was not certified by Jan. 2010 and had a airworthy certificate that I could not register it, and If I could not get it below the 254 lb. ultralite weight that I would not legally be able to fly it. I gave 3000 for the plane and I have about 8 or 9 grand in my Private/IFR ticket so I decided it wasn't worth the risk of my license to fly the FS even though it was fun to fly. For what it's worth I plan to find one that is legal to fly. If you can't keep the N-number then it/s just a lawn ornament. -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SS568 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:05 PM Subject: Kolb-List: No N number There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem seating to a side by side. The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the inspection was not completed. I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner. Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with something else. Thanks, David d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347588#347588 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:48 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: No N number From: Ellery Batchelder Jr I talked with a FAA Rep in my area and they are willing to bend a bit to help some people out Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: SS568 Sent: Sun, Jul 24, 2011 4:04 pm Subject: Kolb-List: No N number There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem eating to a side by side. he ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the nspection was not completed. have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the AA would not reissue, even to a new owner. an anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with someth ing lse. hanks, avid d. ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347588#347588 ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:13 PM PST US From: "pete" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use? Try Oregon Aero military upgrade kits for microphones Mic Muffs. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "russ kinne" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use? > > Dylan > Any time a mic is used in the wind, a wind-sock will improve xmission > greatly. Just a tubular sleeve of foam-plastic, 1/4 or 1/2" thick, will do > fine. You can just cut one out with scissors and tape it together. Look at > the TV reporters --= they all use them. > Russ > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:19 AM, gotime242 wrote: > >> >> Hello all, >> >> I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low >> windscreen, i basically have the wind coming directly at my head. I can >> communicate somewhat by having the volume way up (listen to static the >> whole time) and placing my hand over the mic when needing to talk. >> >> What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their >> microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just >> wanted to see what people have found works best. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Dylan >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347546#347546 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:33 PM PST US From: gliderx5@comcast.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: No N number David The N number is usually not a problem, but that is just the registration that shows that you own it. The difficult part is the airworthiness certificate. The January 2010 deadline that for light sport. You can still register it as an experimental amateur built any time, as long as you can document that it was built by amateurs. This will require a builders log, including photos of the building process. If the seller has that information then it should not be a huge deal to get the airworthiness certificate. If he does not have it, then you probably will not be able to make it legal to fly. Malcolm Morrison http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "SS568" Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:04:37 PM Subject: Kolb-List: No N number There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem seating to a side by side. The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the inspection was not completed. I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner. Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with something else. Thanks, David d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347588#347588 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: No N number From: "SS568" Do I have this right? If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an N number, but desirable. It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? Or if the air worthiness is out of date? David d Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347614#347614 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:30 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Oshkosh Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 In a message dated 7/24/2011 1:16:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gab16@sbcglobal.net writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: George Bearden > I'm going, will be there Monday through Wednesday. I'm there now, for the week. GeoB your guys that are going to be at Oshkosh...keep us posted if you can as to what is interesting and what ever...pictures also if you can for us that are at home but wish we were there...when I am at fly ins with my Kolb firestar it always seems to be interesting to people....I am betting that people are going to be interested in the new Kolb 2 place firestar with a nose wheel..weather here in mich. has been a lot better for flying...hot but cool in the morning and evening...I have been in the air about ever evening....sure is fun in the Firestar ll ....looking at the wildlife and crops....blue skys..safe flying...jswan ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number From: Richard Girard No, David, you have it wrong. The problem is that it was registered as an LSA but the airworthiness certificate was never issued (I looked up the N number). It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now. So, unless you need spare parts, or you want a really nifty lawn ornament, leave it be. Rick Girard On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:22 PM, SS568 wrote: > > Do I have this right? > If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an > N number, but desirable. > It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? > Or if the air worthiness is out of date? > > David d > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347614#347614 > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:39 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: new video...oil cooler test flight From: "ces308" Hello all... I got the new oil cooler on and took her for a ride to see how she works....works good ! It dropped my cruise temp by 50* ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXlXdbL7_zI Thanks for watching ! Safe trips to all going to Oshkosh... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru A-2200 199.3 hrs N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347616#347616 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:00 PM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount. Hi Phil.,,, yes in southern mich where I am at it is only small rolling hills....had trouble when a kid to find hill big enough to ski down in the winter....mix of farm lands and woods...and a few small lakes....so runway's are sort of easy here....yes I got more runway than I need for the Kolb but I had the land and room and it adds a bit of safety and other airplanes can come in....I do have a slight hill in the runway but it seems to be more of help than hindrance....I sure have a lot of fun flying the Firestar around the area, even at the price of gas it is still cheaper than a lot of planes and the visiblity is so good that it makes looking around from the air a enjoyment...plus learning to land the Kolb for a old general aviation pilot is sort of fun also...I am also a member of the Kolb group on facebook and post a lot of pictures on there....if i get into the video thing the Kolb should make a good platform to take some interesting stuff.....thanks for your info...jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 Hi Jim: Sure is flat where you live. Nice, long runway! For a camera, I purchased the Tachyon OPS HD, $139 plus S/H ($152.84). I have yet to receive it ("Coming this August"), but Tachyon seems to be popular and I'm going on faith. _http://www.tachyoninc.com/_ (http://www.tachyoninc.com/) For a mount, it seems to me vibration can be abated by attaching the camera to a "brick" and then soft-mounting the brick to your plane. Then, all you have to worry about is wind-buffeting. Now, who would want to affix a brick to their plane? Well, probably someone that wants vibration-free video. Catch-22. When I get my camera, I'll test this theory, of course. Obviously, the theory is some kind of dead-weight that shrugs off vibration. Not necessarily a brick; maybe a 6" galvie or black-pipe nipple, 2" or 3" dia.? Phil H. - [future] Firefly --- On Sun, 7/24/11, Arksey@aol.com wrote: From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount. re: john tempest you tube video..... the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and mount. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start gathering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of interest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot than I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe flying...jswan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.82 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:54 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Camera Mount From: "ces308" Nice job ! That was entertaining ! I have to try and make a mount like that ! keep them coming !!! chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru A-2200 N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347619#347619 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Camera Mount From: "Mystic" I fly out of Tokeena airpark in Oconee County SC. We're at the foothils of the Blue Ridge mountains, and I feel lucky to fly here. Lots of forest, with just enough hayfields and pastures (and water) to make ya feel safe. Very little traffic too. Glad ya like. John Tempest Firestar "Classic" 447 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347620#347620 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT From: Richard Girard There's actually a first step to any of these methods and that is to examine the hole in the gear leg. Is it centered? Is it the correct size? Is there any sign that the gear leg has been bent? This is the time to determine if it is in serviceable condition. Maybe you want to replace the gear leg if it's questionable. If you're happy with the old gear leg, here's another way to get a precise hole. Get a small piece of hardwood, ply wood, or particle board (hardwood is best) about 1" X 3" X 6", a couple of tongue depressors, a small can of Bondo, a 3" C clamp, and a 1/4" transfer punch. Place the new weldment on the landing gear leg and align loosely, say +/- a degree or two. Clamp the block to the gear leg normal to the existing bolt hole with the tongue depressors as spacers so that the new weldment can be taken on and off without disturbing the block. When you're satisfied that the block is close to 90 degrees to the hole and the weldment slides off and on easily, mix a batch of Bondo and glue the block to the gear leg with it. Let harden about 15 minutes. Drill thru the board using the landing gear hole as a guide. Slide the weldment back on to the gear leg and align it carefully. Put the transfer punch through the hole in the board and tap the end with a hammer. Remove the weldment and drill the hole out on a drill press. Start with a smaller drill, say a #40, so you make sure the drill stays centered on the punch mark and work up. Deburr and check that the transfer punch fits nicely in the hole. Put the weldment back on the landing gear leg, align and put the transfer punch through the board, the first hole in the weldment, and the landing gear leg. Check alignment. Tap the transfer punch. Remove the weldment and drill the punch mark, making sure to align drill bit in the center of the first hole. Again, start small and drill up so the drill doesn't push to one side. Remove the clamp, knock the board off, remove the remaining bondo and install the weldment. Rick Girard On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, b young wrote: > > to drill a new weldment into an existing axel. > > take a piece of tube that will fit over the axel that is is large enough > to fit over the weldment. split the tube so it could be clamped on the > axel without movement. place a bolt through the hole in the axel. and > slide a small tube over both ends of the bolt these will serve as a drill > alignment jig. weld the small tubes to the end of the tube that is > clamped to the axel. pull the bolt out, then install the weldment at the > proper alignment, now you have a drill alignment tube that is lined up with > the hole in the axel. > > to modify this procedure to give you some adjustment,,, when installing > the bolt through the axel.... use a 1/4 do ax 3/16 id tube for a bushing > through the axel, then install a 3/16 inch rod through the bushing and > axel hole, weld a 3/16 inch id drill guide tube to the split, clamped > tube, then drill the weldment with a 3/16 inch drill.. leaving the > bushing in place position the weldment on the plane with a 3/16 " bolt. > check for alignment, if it is ok drill out the hole to fit, if not > file or drill out the hole to correct the alignment then drill to final > size, > > the biggest problem with this method is the tapered gear leg. that will > make it harder to clamp to securely. so be careful. it may be necessary > to make 3 or 4 splits and heat the tube so it can be bent to fit the taper. > > you can use this jig like a blind rivet hole locater. > > boyd young > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:58 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding why it cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued? what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness invalid? I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,, and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be a experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having the inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to comply with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and have it inspected lsa or experimental... if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered before the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still should be good. I dont know what I am missing here. before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on then call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money. does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another time frame to reapply. confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be. boyd young mkiii utah quote Do I have this right? If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an N number, but desirable. It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? Or if the air worthiness is out of date? David It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now. Richard ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number From: Richard Girard Here's the data from the FAA data base. Aircraft Description Serial NumberD R B 2Type RegistrationIndividual Manufacturer NameKOLBCertificate Issue Date09/04/2007ModelFIRESTARExpiration Date 09/30/2012Type AircraftFixed Wing Single-EngineStatusValidPending Number ChangeNoneType Engine2 CycleDate Change AuthorizedNoneDealerNoMFR YearNoneM ode S Code51066413Fractional OwnerNO ------------------------------ Registered Owner NameBOWMAN DANNY R Street717 N MORGAN ST CityMEADVILLE StatePENNSYLVANIACountyCRAWFORDZip Code16335-2122CountryUNITED STATES ------------------------------ Airworthiness Engine ManufacturerUnknownClassificationUnknown Engine Mode l UnknownCategoryNone A/W DateNone The A/W certificate was never issued. The last date to do that was January 31st 2010. You can't get it now. 21.191 Experimental certificates. Experimental certificates are issued for the following purposes: (i) *Operating light-sport aircraft. *Operating a light-sport aircraft that =97 (1) Has not been issued a U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate and doe s not meet the provisions of =A7103.1 of this chapter. An experimental certificate will not be issued under this paragraph for these aircraft afte r January 31, 2008; (this was extended to 2010 PROVIDED the aircraft was registered by the 2008 date) I've asked both the local FSDO and the Light Sport Branch in Oklahoma City if there is ANY way they will issue an E-AB certificate for one of these aircraft and the answer is always NO. Rick Girard On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, b young wrote: > ** > guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a > lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding why it > cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n > number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued? > > what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness invali d? > > I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,, > and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be a > experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having the > inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to compl y > with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and have it > inspected lsa or experimental... > > if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered before > the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still > should be good. > > I dont know what I am missing here. > > before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the > builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on th en > call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money. > > does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual > inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and > ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another > time frame to reapply. > > confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be. > > boyd young > mkiii utah > > quote > > Do I have this right? > If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an > N number, but desirable. > It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? > Or if the air worthiness is out of date? > > David > > > It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered as > an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now. > > Richard > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 09:14:29 PM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number I would not call the local Fisdo...Congress just laid most of them off and any that are there are probably pretty pissed ... I have talked to a guy at EAA headquarters several times...lost his name, but he is their guru of odd ball experimental licensing I think he has seen just about every non standard scenerio....If it can be fixed he will know how and will make recommendations as to how to approach local FAA offices. bob From: b young Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:35 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding why it cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued? what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness invalid? I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,, and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be a experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having the inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to comply with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and have it inspected lsa or experimental... if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered before the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still should be good. I dont know what I am missing here. before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on then call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money. does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another time frame to reapply. confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be. boyd young mkiii utah quote Do I have this right? If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an N number, but desirable. It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? Or if the air worthiness is out of date? David It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now. Richard ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number From: Richard Girard Boyd, I didn't answer the last part of your question. IF you do not re-register an E-LSA that was issued an airworthiness certificate under the "fat ultralight" provision, i.e. FAR 21.191 i (1) in the time allotted and allow the registration to expire its airworthiness certificate is null and void AND IT CANNOT BE RE-ISSUED (caps for emphasis, not yelling). Why? Because the provision has expired, as have *all the forms* that serviced that provision. There is no path to reissue an airworthiness certificate, now. It's an unintended consequence of the re-registration scheme. I know Edsel is probably tired of repeating this, but you can check it with him at the Light Sport Branch. I haven't asked in a year, who knows, maybe there's been a miracle and FAA's Legal Dept. has found a way. But that's the answer that I got and it was confirmed by Roger Lee on the Rotax engines forum and several others. Please don't shoot the messenger. I didn't make the mess, I don't work for the FAA. Rick Girard On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Richard Girard wrote : > Here's the data from the FAA data base. > Aircraft Description Serial Number D R B 2Type Registration Individual Manufacturer > NameKOLB Certificate Issue Date09/04/2007 ModelFIRESTAR Expiration Date > 09/30/2012 Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-EngineStatus ValidPending > Number Change NoneType Engine 2 CycleDate Change Authorized NoneDealer No MFR > Year NoneMode S Code 51066413Fractional Owner NO > ------------------------------ > Registered Owner Name BOWMAN DANNY R Street 717 N MORGAN ST City > MEADVILLE StatePENNSYLVANIA County CRAWFORDZip Code 16335-2122 CountryUNI TED > STATES > ------------------------------ > Airworthiness Engine ManufacturerUnknown ClassificationUnknown Engine > Model UnknownCategory None A/W DateNone > > The A/W certificate was never issued. The last date to do that was Januar y > 31st 2010. You can't get it now. > 21.191 Experimental certificates. > > Experimental certificates are issued for the following purposes: > > (i) *Operating light-sport aircraft. *Operating a light-sport aircraft > that=97 > > (1) Has not been issued a U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate and > does not meet the provisions of =A7103.1 of this chapter. An experimental > certificate will not be issued under this paragraph for these aircraft af ter > January 31, 2008; (this was extended to 2010 PROVIDED the aircraft was > registered by the 2008 date) > > I've asked both the local FSDO and the Light Sport Branch in Oklahoma Cit y > if there is ANY way they will issue an E-AB certificate for one of these > aircraft and the answer is always NO. > > Rick Girard > > > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, b young wrote : > >> ** >> guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a >> lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding wh y it >> cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n >> number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued? >> >> what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness >> invalid? >> >> I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,, >> and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be a >> experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having th e >> inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to comp ly >> with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and hav e it >> inspected lsa or experimental... >> >> if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered befor e >> the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still >> should be good. >> >> I dont know what I am missing here. >> >> before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the >> builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on t hen >> call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money. >> >> does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual >> inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and >> ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another >> time frame to reapply. >> >> confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be. >> >> boyd young >> mkiii utah >> >> quote >> >> Do I have this right? >> If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have >> an N number, but desirable. >> It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not? >> Or if the air worthiness is out of date? >> >> David >> >> >> >> It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered >> as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now. >> >> Richard >> >> >> >> * >> =========== =========== =========== =========== >> * >> >> > > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhapp y. > - Groucho Marx > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:11:27 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number Please don't shoot the messenger. I didn't make the mess, I don't work for the FAA. Rick Girard >>>>>>>>>>>> i am not going to shoot anyone,,,, i just didn't understand,,,, it just seemed to me that if it was regisered lsa,,,, it could be re registered lsa.. it is not my plane,,, not my problem.. just trying to understand thanks/ boyd do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.