---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/28/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:58 AM - New Firestar at Oshkosh (Jimmy Young) 2. 06:32 AM - Re: New Firestar at Oshkosh (robert bean) 3. 06:59 AM - Re: Mk IIIC in Kansas (Richard Girard) 4. 07:13 AM - Re: New Firestar at Oshkosh (chris davis) 5. 07:52 AM - Re: New Firestar at Oshkosh (Jerry Deckard) 6. 09:53 AM - Re: Mk IIIC in Kansas (Mike Welch) 7. 10:29 AM - malware (chris davis) 8. 10:36 AM - Re: malware (william sullivan) 9. 12:21 PM - Re: Mk IIIC in Kansas (Mike Welch) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:34 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh From: "Jimmy Young" Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at Oshkosh. I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured either as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing Firestar II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail boom & empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This one had a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd like to change mine out just for the extra cabin space! This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. We stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a heat wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a perfectly good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347912#347912 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0009_225.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:32:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh From: robert bean thanx for the pic Jimmy. Kolb should pick up some customers who want a nosewheel. Looks good too. BB do not archive On 28, Jul 2011, at 8:56 AM, Jimmy Young wrote: > > Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at Oshkosh. I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured either as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing Firestar II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail boom & empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This one had a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd like to change mine out just for the extra cabin space! > > This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. We stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a heat wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a perfectly good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347912#347912 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0009_225.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:50 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas From: Richard Girard Mike, I appreciate the offer, but there are things you just can't get to after the fuselage is covered. At this point I think I'll finish the Firestar first, put the 582 on it and have a hot rod to play around in then sell it next spring to finance a new cage for the Mk III, or not. Rick On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > Rick, > > Although I'm not in Kansas anymore, (same as Dorothy & ToTo), I wouldn't > mind making dozens of measurements > and LOTs of pictures for you, if you want. Just let me know. > > I'm in Tampa, though, on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on > Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until > Monday, I'll get ya all the info you'll need. > > Mike Welch > (PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be > an Xtra....in other words, it's identical to > yours..just straighter.) > > ------------------------------ > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:14:24 -0500 > Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas > From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > > I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or > Oklahoma, are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I can > take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main gear > was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the > truss. > > Rick Girard > > -- > Zulu Delta > Mk IIIC > Thanks, Homer GBYM > > It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. > - Groucho Marx > > > * > > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > > -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:15 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh Jimmy ,It apoears that Kolb had a spot at the ultralight field did they have any flying , two years ago when we got there they had nothingon the field just a booth in the main area. Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ----- Original Message ---- From: Jimmy Young Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 8:56:13 AM Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at Oshkosh. I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured either as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing Firestar II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail boom & empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This one had a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd like to change mine out just for the extra cabin space! This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. We stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a heat wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a perfectly good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347912#347912 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0009_225.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:40 AM PST US From: "Jerry Deckard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh More details? Daul controls? What is diff in this and MK III? Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "chris davis" Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:10 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh > > Jimmy ,It apoears that Kolb had a spot at the ultralight field did they > have any > flying , two years ago when we got there they had nothing on the field > just a > booth in the main area. > Chris Davis > KXP 503 492 hrs > Glider Pilot > Disabled from crash building Firefly > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jimmy Young > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 8:56:13 AM > Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh > > > Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at > Oshkosh. > I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured > either > as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing > Firestar > II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail > boom & > empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This > one had > a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd > like > to change mine out just for the extra cabin space! > > This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a > beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. > We > stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a > heat > wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a > perfectly > good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities. > > -------- > Jimmy Young > Missouri City, TX > Kolb FS II/HKS 700 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347912#347912 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0009_225.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:01 AM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas Rick=2C Ok=2C but the offer to take photos etc=2C still stands. Something to pon der=2C though=2C I DO know of a guy with a MkIIIC cage that is NOT covered. His name is Brian Fell. He contacted the Kolb list back around November asking if anyone had converted a MkIIIC to an X. I mentioned Ken's Xtra that you were working on=2C and of course=2C mine. He and I have had lots of 'off-list' emails=2C where I was suggesting how I'd go about the change differently=2C etc. He is VERY slow to get going with his conversio n=2C evidently $$$ slowing him down quite a bit. About 3 weeks ago=2C he reemerged when he sent me a 'joking' email of his newly arrived Xtra nosecone=2C propped in place on the front of the MkIIIC frame. ...and said it didn't fit. The last I heard prior to going on our mini-vacation was he ha dn't started anything yet. If you haven't had much of a response to your request for your MkIIIC inf o=2C etc=2C and you are still in need of 'bare frame' measurements=2C pictures =2C dimensions=2C etc=2C let me know=2C and I'll see if I can get him to get you fixed up. Whatever works best! Mike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com Mike=2C I appreciate the offer=2C but there are things you just can't get t o after the fuselage is covered. At this point I think I'll finish the Fire star first=2C put the 582 on it and have a hot rod to play around in then s ell it next spring to finance a new cage for the Mk III=2C or not. Rick On Wed=2C Jul 20=2C 2011 at 2:45 PM=2C Mike Welch wrote: Rick=2C Although I'm not in Kansas anymore=2C (same as Dorothy & ToTo)=2C I would n't mind making dozens of measurements and LOTs of pictures for you=2C if you want. Just let me know. I'm in Tampa=2C though=2C on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until Monday=2C I'll get ya all the info you'll need. Mike Welch (PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be an Xtra....in other words=2C it's identical to yours..just straighter.) Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or Oklahoma=2C are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I can take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main g ear was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the truss. Rick Girard -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List http://forums.matronics.com ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:29:22 AM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: malware Kolbers and all I have downloaded anti malware so I hope this crap is over please let me knowif I doesnt! Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:36:34 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: malware - Came through Ok, and so did your valid post late yesterday.- Good luc k. - ------------------------- ---------------------- Bill --- On Thu, 7/28/11, chris davis wrote: From: chris davis Subject: Kolb-List: malware Kolbers and- all I have downloaded anti malware so I hope this crap is ov er please let me know-if I doesnt! -Chris Davis KXP 503 492 hrs Glider Pilot Disabled from crash building Firefly le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:23 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas Kolb list people=2C My apologies for the last email response to Rick G being sent to this lis t. It was only intended to be returned to Rick G. When he responded to me off-list to my offer to help=2C I intended my reply to only just go to him=2C and never noticed when I push ed "reply" that it addressed itself back to the Kolb list. Oops. Sorry. Brian Fell=2C Howdy!! Guess what I was going to ask you to do for Rick G ? haha Mike Welch From: mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas Rick=2C Ok=2C but the offer to take photos etc=2C still stands. Something to pon der=2C though=2C I DO know of a guy with a MkIIIC cage that is NOT covered. His name is Brian Fell. He contacted the Kolb list back around November asking if anyone had converted a MkIIIC to an X. I mentioned Ken's Xtra that you were working on=2C and of course=2C mine. He and I have had lots of 'off-list' emails=2C where I was suggesting how I'd go about the change differently=2C etc. He is VERY slow to get going with his conversio n=2C evidently $$$ slowing him down quite a bit. About 3 weeks ago=2C he reemerged when he sent me a 'joking' email of his newly arrived Xtra nosecone=2C propped in place on the front of the MkIIIC frame. ...and said it didn't fit. The last I heard prior to going on our mini-vacation was he ha dn't started anything yet. If you haven't had much of a response to your request for your MkIIIC inf o=2C etc=2C and you are still in need of 'bare frame' measurements=2C pictures =2C dimensions=2C etc=2C let me know=2C and I'll see if I can get him to get you fixed up. Whatever works best! Mike Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com Mike=2C I appreciate the offer=2C but there are things you just can't get t o after the fuselage is covered. At this point I think I'll finish the Fire star first=2C put the 582 on it and have a hot rod to play around in then s ell it next spring to finance a new cage for the Mk III=2C or not. Rick On Wed=2C Jul 20=2C 2011 at 2:45 PM=2C Mike Welch wrote: Rick=2C Although I'm not in Kansas anymore=2C (same as Dorothy & ToTo)=2C I would n't mind making dozens of measurements and LOTs of pictures for you=2C if you want. Just let me know. I'm in Tampa=2C though=2C on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until Monday=2C I'll get ya all the info you'll need. Mike Welch (PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be an Xtra....in other words=2C it's identical to yours..just straighter.) Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas From: aslsa.rng@gmail.com I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or Oklahoma=2C are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I can take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main g ear was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the truss. 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