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1. 03:54 AM - Re: Re: HD video (Pat Ladd)
2. 04:23 AM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (David Lucas)
3. 04:35 AM - Re: HD video (Thom Riddle)
4. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: HD video (russ kinne)
5. 10:40 AM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Mic)
6. 01:08 PM - Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please (Dennis Thate)
7. 01:22 PM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Kirkds)
8. 01:48 PM - Re: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (pete)
9. 02:40 PM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Richard Pike)
10. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Dennis Souder)
11. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Richard Girard)
12. 03:54 PM - HOPE & PRAY (Dennis Thate)
13. 03:56 PM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Beauford)
14. 04:28 PM - Fw: olympic torch virus/facebook (russ kinne)
15. 04:39 PM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Richard Pike)
16. 05:17 PM - Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (henry.voris)
17. 06:57 PM - Re: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Herb)
18. 08:43 PM - Re: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing (Ron @ KFHU)
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if you are used to flying above 500' agl.>>
That's interesting. What height agl do you guys usually fly? You always seem
to give your heights above sea level but the fact that you are at 10,000feet
doesn`t really mean much.
I flew for an hour last night. Almost no wind and the air was smooth.
Climbed out to about 1000ft.. Backed off the throttle as CHT`s were
climbing. Cruise is usually 2600rpm which gives about 70mph. Climbed to
1500ft to sniff around a couple of hot air balloons. They took pictures.
Dropped a bit lower to take a look at a farm strip with a couple of planes
on it. Watched one take off and followed him for a while.Climbed with him to
around 2000ft.
Wandered off to look at a large quarry hole. Got a slight bump from a last
lingering thermal coming off the hot stone face. This reminded me of landing
out in my glider many many years ago when I failed to find a thermal coming
from the same source. Flew hands off. Slight tendency to bank left. Nose
dropped gently until the vario showed 2knots down and then it rose slowly
and then repeated. Not self correcting so had to fly her again. About 15
miles from my strip at that point at 1700 ft agl so turned for home.
Throttled back and began to slide downhill until close to the strip.
Dropped to around 1000ft, No one else about. Straight in approach. Throttle
back, 50 mph, First stage of flap. A bit high, Second stage flap. She drops
comfortably into the slot. 500ft Back to first stage flap. 350ft Throttle
back a bit, Speed a little high, nose up a touch. Close throttle and nudge
the nose down a shade as we drift over the hedge. Taxy in, push her into the
hangar. Put the covers on and close up the hangar. Wife turns up and we go
to a local pub for a couple of pints and a steak..End of a perfect flight.
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Come on folks, let's not get too hung up about these small suffix comments added
to the end of some posts. As long as they don't take over the post (like this
one is perilously close to doing). I find them a interesting enough, not offensive,
and often quite amusing adding a bit of spice to life and I usually get
a smile on my face after noting them.
Enjoy life, and safe flying.
David.
Do not achieve
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Pat,
Depends upon where you live/fly. In western NY, we have to be careful of altitude
for both legal and safety reasons. There is a lot of agricultural area here
outside the cities but also lots of small towns and residences with precious
little undeveloped area except for forests. The FAA says no closer than 500' from
any person, structure or vehicle and 1,000' above "congested" areas is the
normal minimum, except on departure and approach.
Where Larry lives and flies, I suspect there are few if any mobile/cell towers
or other tall structures that could snag him and few people, vehicles or structures
which would require 500' clearance to stay legal. Certainly no areas that
the most liberal interpretation would be called "congested". BTW, the FAA does
not define "congested area" but in court, sometimes the interpretation has
been as few as 3 houses in close proximity to each other, or so I've heard. I
have no intention of finding out the hard way. When flying on the Lake Erie or
Lake Ontario shoreline (off shore a bit) I am comfortable getting down to 100'
agl or sometimes a bit less. A sudden unexpected sneeze at 20' agl could ruin
the flight.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Sounds like the end of a perfect day, not just a perfect flight -- your wife is
a gem; to pick you up & feed you steak & a pint!
Tell her I said so
Your CHT's normally climb that much in a climb?
FWIW I usually fly at 500-1000 AGL because I Iike to look around, and take pictures.
We must maintain 1000' over 'populated areas'
fair winds,
Russ
On Aug 7, 2011, at 6:52 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
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> if you are used to flying above 500' agl.>>
>
> That's interesting. What height agl do you guys usually fly? You always seem
to give your heights above sea level but the fact that you are at 10,000feet doesn`t
really mean much.
> I flew for an hour last night. Almost no wind and the air was smooth. Climbed
out to about 1000ft.. Backed off the throttle as CHT`s were climbing. Cruise
is usually 2600rpm which gives about 70mph. Climbed to 1500ft to sniff around
a couple of hot air balloons. They took pictures.
> Dropped a bit lower to take a look at a farm strip with a couple of planes on
it. Watched one take off and followed him for a while.Climbed with him to around
2000ft.
> Wandered off to look at a large quarry hole. Got a slight bump from a last lingering
thermal coming off the hot stone face. This reminded me of landing out
in my glider many many years ago when I failed to find a thermal coming from
the same source. Flew hands off. Slight tendency to bank left. Nose dropped gently
until the vario showed 2knots down and then it rose slowly and then repeated.
Not self correcting so had to fly her again. About 15 miles from my strip
at that point at 1700 ft agl so turned for home. Throttled back and began to
slide downhill until close to the strip. Dropped to around 1000ft, No one else
about. Straight in approach. Throttle back, 50 mph, First stage of flap. A
bit high, Second stage flap. She drops comfortably into the slot. 500ft Back to
first stage flap. 350ft Throttle back a bit, Speed a little high, nose up a
touch. Close throttle and nudge the nose down a shade as we drift over the hedge.
Taxy in, push her into the hangar. Put the covers on and close up the hangar.
Wife turns up and we go to a local pub for a couple of pints and a steak..End
of a perfect flight.
>
> Pat
>
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
This is my one and only, first and last comment on this matter.
I am a member of this forum because of my enthusiasm for airplanes and flying them.
And, hopefully, to learn and one day share my experiences of building and
flying a Kolb MKIII. My few comments to date have been relevant and pertinent
to the aviation topic presented, and shall remain so. I suggest others would
do well to do the same. My signature, however, like yours, is a personal matter
and is not open for discussion in this forum.
This short thread directed at me and my personal signature is, I dare say, inappropriate.
Especially due to the fact that it hijacked the serious discussion
about Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing. Come on now, you gotta
be kidding.
Oh, and BTW, I had the food fortune of seeing Phil the Gorilla numerous times as
a small boy and thought he was a magnificent creature then and I remain impressed
today.
Stay focused and fly safely ya'll
--------
"Gods are fragile things, they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose
of common sense." - Chapman Cohen
"God is my favorite fictional character" - Homer Simpson
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Subject: | Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please |
I did receive this e-mail and am wondering if this is the consensus here ?
" "I would like to recommend that you find a Rotax Expert to do a tear down, inspection,
decarb and reseal. The recommended useful life of the engine seals
are 6 yrs.. you can lose an engine easily to a blown seal besides,,
useful life of the engine seals are 6 yrs.. ???
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Oh the pro christian comments are ok here I've noticed over the years.
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Sure, why not? Pete
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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 4:19 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Since it is obvious that we have several fairly new listers who are planning to
be blatent in using their signatures to put down people of faith, I am sure that
in the interest of keeping things fair and balanced that no one will mind
me adding Scripture verses to my signature, and changing them on a fairly regular
basis. After all, I was a pastor long before I was on the Kolb list (starting
years ago) and while I have never done anything like that before, if that
is the way the folks on the list want to play, I'm in!
On the other hand, if no one wants the list to go that way, maybe the anti-faith
guys could back down and knock if off. And that works just fine for me.
Mic - Dennis - The ball is in your court. Do we level the playing field or do we
knock off the gratuitous insults toward believers?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
PS: Do you like my sample?
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"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen." - Hebrews 11:1
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Kolb enthusiasts,
I think everyone would agree that if it were not for Homer Kolb, this list
would not exist because Kolb airplanes would not exist.
If Homer were alive to read the anti-God sentiments associated with the Kolb
list, he would at least be very saddened. I can understand that religious
comments can pop up now and then, but I have a little more difficult
understanding why someone would feel the need to make such comments a 24-7
integral part of their signature. Homer was building airplanes before I
came along, but we started the business together and worked together for 20
years, so I know how he would have felt about this.
This is a forum for Kolb aircraft - if anyone feels a pressing need to talk
about God, Eugene has already offered to discuss off-line and I know there
are many others too who don't feel they need to link their comments about
stall speed, for instance, to their views concerning the existence of a
deity.
However if the list deems such personal conviction-signatures relevant to
the Kolb discussions, then perhaps we all should express the things most
pressing on our hearts.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mic
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 1:38 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing
This is my one and only, first and last comment on this matter.
I am a member of this forum because of my enthusiasm for airplanes and
flying them. And, hopefully, to learn and one day share my experiences of
building and flying a Kolb MKIII. My few comments to date have been relevant
and pertinent to the aviation topic presented, and shall remain so. I
suggest others would do well to do the same. My signature, however, like
yours, is a personal matter and is not open for discussion in this forum.
This short thread directed at me and my personal signature is, I dare say,
inappropriate. Especially due to the fact that it hijacked the serious
discussion about Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing. Come on now,
you gotta be kidding.
Oh, and BTW, I had the food fortune of seeing Phil the Gorilla numerous
times as a small boy and thought he was a magnificent creature then and I
remain impressed today.
Stay focused and fly safely ya'll
--------
"Gods are fragile things, they may be killed by a whiff of science or a
dose of common sense." - Chapman Cohen
"God is my favorite fictional character" - Homer Simpson
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Since we're going to have a discussion in which there can be no winner,
could we at least not drag Arty's name into it and have it under a different
subject line? Or better yet, is there a more suitable forum somewhere else?
Rick Girard
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
> Since it is obvious that we have several fairly new listers who are
> planning to be blatent in using their signatures to put down people of
> faith, I am sure that in the interest of keeping things fair and balanced
> that no one will mind me adding Scripture verses to my signature, and
> changing them on a fairly regular basis. After all, I was a pastor long
> before I was on the Kolb list (starting years ago) and while I have never
> done anything like that before, if that is the way the folks on the list
> want to play, I'm in!
>
> On the other hand, if no one wants the list to go that way, maybe the
> anti-faith guys could back down and knock if off. And that works just fine
> for me.
>
> Mic - Dennis - The ball is in your court. Do we level the playing field or
> do we knock off the gratuitous insults toward believers?
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> PS: Do you like my sample?
>
> --------
> "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of
> things not seen." - Hebrews 11:1
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348847#348847
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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That is my windsock, it's covered in insecticide. There is an amazing amount of
aerial corn spraying going on in the Midwest this season. I HOPE & PRAY that
junk doesn't kill us all with insidious rare diseases.
The human race is challenged more than ever before to demonstrate our mastery -
not over nature but of ourselves
~ Rachel Carson
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
Kolbers:
Here is a fresh approach...
What do you say we just follow the Matronics guidelines for this List and
limit what we post or "sign" on here
to precisely what 'ol Matt Dralle says WILL appear on here....?
i.e., Civil words about Kolb airplanes and Kolb-related aviation topics.
Nothing more.
It has worked pretty well (with just a few ego-fueled exceptions- who are
all List past history now...) since I got on here in 1999.
Just a thought.
Worth what ye paid fer it.
Beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing
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Subject: | Fwd: olympic torch virus/facebook |
FWIW --
>
>>
>> Subject: olympic torch virus/facebook
>> PLEASE CIRCULATE THIS NOTICE TO YOUR FRIENDS, FAMILY, CONTACTS! In
the coming days, you should be aware: Do not open any message with an
attachment called: Invitation FACEBOOK, regardless of who send it. It is
a virus that opens an Olympic torch that burns the whole hard disc C of
your computer. This virus will be received from someone you had in your
address book .. That's why you should send this message to all your
contacts. It is better to receive this email 25 times than to receive
the virus and open it .. If you receive a mail called: Invitation
FACEBOOK, though sent by a friend, do not open it and delete it
immediately. It is the worst virus announced by CNN. A new virus has
been discovered recently that has been classified by Microsoft as the
most destructive virus ever. And there is no repair yet for this kind of
virus. This virus simply destroys the Zero Sector of the Hard Disc,
where the vital information of their function is saved. I had this sent
to me from another domain so thought i would pass it on thanks
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
beauford wrote:
> Kolbers:
> Here is a fresh approach...
> What do you say we just follow the Matronics guidelines for this List and
> limit what we post or "sign" on here to precisely what 'ol Matt Dralle says WILL
appear on here....? i.e., Civil words about Kolb airplanes and Kolb-related
aviation topics.
> Nothing more.
> It has worked pretty well (with just a few ego-fueled exceptions- who are all
List past history now...) since I got on here in 1999.
> Just a thought.
> Worth what ye paid fer it.
> Beauford
> FF-076
> Brandon, FL
> --
Works for me. But we'll see...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
But Beauford... I miss jet pilot.
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Henry
Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
Do Not Archive
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Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
He is on another list on Planet Yahoo...:-) Herb
At 07:14 PM 8/7/2011, you wrote:
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>But Beauford... I miss jet pilot.
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>Henry
>Firefly Five-Charlie-Bravo
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From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
Subject: | Re: Arty Trost The Wandering Wench Forced Landing |
what in h4 is going on people... this is a first time that we are having a fight
over such stuff.
I am beginning to suspect we have some trolls here (I am not recognizing some of
these new names).
Here the KOlB forum is an escape from the general social commotion outside. Lets
not bring the crap here.
I get enough of it from the TV,,, the last thing I / we need is it invading this
list.
I need some stress free time, I thought i was getting it here and now this.
Ron @ KFHU
do not archive
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---- Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
============
Since it is obvious that we have several fairly new listers who are planning to
be blatent in using their signatures to put down people of faith, I am sure that
in the interest of keeping things fair and balanced that no one will mind
me adding Scripture verses to my signature, and changing them on a fairly regular
basis. After all, I was a pastor long before I was on the Kolb list (starting
years ago) and while I have never done anything like that before, if that
is the way the folks on the list want to play, I'm in!
On the other hand, if no one wants the list to go that way, maybe the anti-faith
guys could back down and knock if off. And that works just fine for me.
Mic - Dennis - The ball is in your court. Do we level the playing field or do we
knock off the gratuitous insults toward believers?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
PS: Do you like my sample?
--------
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not
seen." - Hebrews 11:1
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