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1. 06:36 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Kolb Aircraft)
2. 06:47 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Kolb Aircraft)
3. 07:08 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (thumbs)
4. 07:26 AM - Re: Engine out (David Kulp)
5. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Kolb Aircraft)
6. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Engine out (Pat Ladd)
7. 09:31 AM - Re: Engine out (Dennis Thate)
8. 09:40 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 45 Msgs - 08/08/11 (Bob Green)
9. 09:58 AM - Re: Engine out (SS568)
10. 10:09 AM - Re: Engine out (Richard Pike)
11. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Engine out (russ kinne)
12. 10:40 AM - Re: Re: Engine out (Phil)
13. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Engine out (Rick Neilsen)
14. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: Engine out (Rick Neilsen)
15. 03:04 PM - Building scale (Phil)
16. 03:19 PM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (frank goodnight)
17. 03:26 PM - Re: Building scale (russ kinne)
18. 04:18 PM - Re: Building scale (Phil)
19. 04:18 PM - condensation on carb (tkben002)
20. 04:53 PM - video (Larry Cottrell)
21. 04:58 PM - Re: condensation on carb (Thom Riddle)
22. 04:58 PM - Re: condensation on carb (tkben002)
23. 05:00 PM - Re: condensation on carb (Thom Riddle)
24. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: condensation on carb (Thom Riddle)
25. 05:51 PM - Re: condensation on carb (tkben002)
26. 06:10 PM - Re: Looking for field and hanger space around Souderton Pa. (joepilot503)
27. 07:24 PM - The other one (Larry Cottrell)
28. 07:59 PM - Not Aviation Related...or is it ! (Dennis Thate)
29. 08:01 PM - Re: The other one (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
30. 08:36 PM - Re: Not Aviation Related...or is it ! (Richard Pike)
31. 08:39 PM - Re: condensation on carb (Richard Pike)
32. 09:14 PM - Re: Re: Not Aviation Related...or is it ! (Bob)
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
Right on
Bottom lift Strut AN 395-17
Top lift Strut AN 395-29
wing AN 395-41
Aileron AN 394-29
Lower Tail AN3-13
Wing Nut AN350-1032
Travis
Kolb CO.
----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Hague
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb
It's all standard aircraft hardware, which you can get from outfits
like Aircraft Spruce.
-Dana
At 08:22 PM 8/8/2011, thumbs wrote:
I have been trying to contact Kolb using email addresses on their
sight. I have tried both customer support and travis's email. All the
emails I have tried come back not deliverable. How do you get emails to
Kolb?
I am trying to get a set, or two, of the attachment pins and keepers
for my FirestarII.
--
Cause of crash: Inadvertent contact with the ground.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
I forgot the safty pins. AN 416-1
but you can order from Spruce or any catalog which offers AN Hardware.
The only other thing is the AN 416-1 safety pin they sell is stainless
steel and I still have some regular steel plated ones.
Kind Regards
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Dana Hague
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb
It's all standard aircraft hardware, which you can get from outfits
like Aircraft Spruce.
-Dana
At 08:22 PM 8/8/2011, thumbs wrote:
I have been trying to contact Kolb using email addresses on their
sight. I have tried both customer support and travis's email. All the
emails I have tried come back not deliverable. How do you get emails to
Kolb?
I am trying to get a set, or two, of the attachment pins and keepers
for my FirestarII.
--
Cause of crash: Inadvertent contact with the ground.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
That was fast, after I got the right email. Thanks Travis. And thanks for the
list replys.
Ok I'll ask the dumb question. What is the difference between the steel and stainless
safety pins. Is one better than the other? Obviously the stainless
will not rust. Is one more preferred than the other?
thanks
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I've had two. First was in my tricycle Chicken Hawk w/277 Rotax when
the wings folded at about 1200' AGL (sans 'chute) and one of the struts
that went from the trailing edge of the wings to the tail section tore
free went thru the prop. The engine out was the least of my problems
that afternoon. Second was when the 430 Cuyuna in my UltraStar shut
off. Got to the athletic fields of a middle school OK, but didn't
realize the track was built out level with a very steep grade prior.
Got too low attempting to roll it out before hitting the side of the
bleachers, and crunched the top of the grade bending up the cage and
buckling the boom tube. Very little air time and no dead stick landing
practice back then.
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem PA
FireFly 11DMK
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Just curious....how many of you have suffered an engine-out failure? What
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of aircraft and engine? Expand on your reply if you wish, but I was just
trying
to get an idea of how many have experienced it.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
Not sure about the difference. I was told once the plated steel ones were
stronger but I don't know myself.
I do know the steel plated safety pins holds their shape better than the
Stainless Steel ones.
This would be a decision of the owner.
Travis
Kolb CO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "thumbs" <gbthacker@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Ordering parts from Kolb
>
> That was fast, after I got the right email. Thanks Travis. And thanks
> for the list replys.
>
> Ok I'll ask the dumb question. What is the difference between the steel
> and stainless safety pins. Is one better than the other? Obviously the
> stainless will not rust. Is one more preferred than the other?
>
> thanks
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349018#349018
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<<Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that
not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should
boast.>>
Richard,
thats not a signature, thats a posting. Knock it off please. You are on the
wrong list
Pat.
Pat
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
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> Richard,
>
> thats not a signature, thats a posting. Knock it off please. You are on the
> wrong list
>
> Pat.
>
> Pat
I second that ! Please grow -up !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Friends for Fun, Safety and Knowledge, A not-for-profit, non-religious and non-political
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Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 45 Msgs - 08/08/11 |
Thank you gang (Rick & Phil) for replying to my inquiry concerning the poli
-spray and Nevada Silver.
Jim and Dondi of Aircraft technical Support, Inc had already answered my qu
estion about the UV poli-spray coats. You are right, the Nevada Silver has
the aluminum flakes (UV) in it too so less cross coats are in order. I as
sembled my MKIIIX before starting the fabric but did not weigh it. I will
not be able to weigh it again until after painting and assembly. I am very
impressed with the product and service (Poly-fiber process) provided by th
e Miller's.
I appreciate the quick response from you all.
Thank the Lord in 44 years of flying GA aircraft I have never experienced a
n engine failure.
Good to have a list of guys to help with building and flying Kolb aircraft.
What a great shot of John's plane... so far from LA. I'll be happy to ge
t to phase 1 AW certificate
Bob G
MKIIIX, GPAS VW redrive
N830PB
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This has been a very interesting thread. However it was previously posted and
I quote
The 6 Key Reasons for Rotax 503 Sudden Engine Stoppage:
1. Fuel Filter Clogged
2. Alcohol in Gasoline
3. Old Fuel
4. Inadvertent Mixture Leaning at Idle
5. Engine Warm Up and Shock Cooling
6. Air Filter Clogged
I believe all poster made no mention of the above causes. Although several made
mention of mixture screws moving??
Puzzled?
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pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
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> Richard,
>
> thats not a signature, thats a posting. Knock it off please. You are on the
> wrong list
> Pat.
> Pat
Pat, you had nothing to say when Mic put his atheism in his signature. Looks to
me like your bias is evident.
Meanwhile, thanks you Dennis Thate for changing your signature to something non-offensive.
And Pat - since the Word of God offends you, I will delete it from
my signature.
Unless - there are more postings by people with something in their signature that
ridicules believers, in which case I will once again start adding Scripture
to my signature. If you think that people of faith are supposed to sit meekly
by while being gratuitously insulted, you are living in a dream world. Police
the scoffers first rather than the believers, get the ones who started it to
knock it off, and then you won't have any thing to complain about.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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AMEN!
On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> thats not a signature, thats a posting. Knock it off please. You are on the
>> wrong list
>>
>> Pat.
>>
>> Pat
>
>
> I second that ! Please grow -up !
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
> Friends for Fun, Safety and Knowledge, A not-for-profit, non-religious and non-political
organization.
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>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349038#349038
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I saw this the first time and added the list to my future checklist/inspect
ion instructions. A big thanks! - Phil H.
--- On Tue, 8/9/11, SS568 <david@PaulowniaTrees.com> wrote:
From: SS568 <david@PaulowniaTrees.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Engine out
This has been a very interesting thread.---However it was previously
posted and I quote
The 6 Key Reasons for Rotax 503 Sudden Engine Stoppage:
1. Fuel Filter Clogged
2. Alcohol in Gasoline
3. Old Fuel
4. Inadvertent Mixture Leaning at Idle
5. Engine Warm Up and Shock Cooling
6. Air Filter Clogged
I believe all poster made no mention of the above causes. Although several
made mention of mixture screws moving??
Puzzled?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349040#349040
le, List Admin.
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>
> I have had four forced landings. Three in a Weedhopper. One was prop bolts
> that got loose from temp/humidity changes. That Chotia 460 ran real smooth
> with no prop.
One was in my Kolb with a old version of Valley redrive. The redrive mount
cracked causing the belts to fall off. 800 miles to Oshkosh and back and I
got to about 8 miles from my home strip when it let go. They told me it
wasn't designed for anything but a wood prop. The new version is three
times stronger were I cracked it. The landing was uneventful in a bean
field. The landing roll was only about two feet after the tail snagged a row
of beans. I had over revved the engine before landing but nothing else was
damaged.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
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That should have read they told me "up front" that it wasn't designed for
anything but a wood prop.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have had four forced landings. Three in a Weedhopper. One was prop bolts
>> that got loose from temp/humidity changes. That Chotia 460 ran real smooth
>> with no prop.
>
>
> One was in my Kolb with a old version of Valley redrive. The redrive mount
> cracked causing the belts to fall off. 800 miles to Oshkosh and back and I
> got to about 8 miles from my home strip when it let go. They told me it
> wasn't designed for anything but a wood prop. The new version is three
> times stronger were I cracked it. The landing was uneventful in a bean
> field. The landing roll was only about two feet after the tail snagged a row
> of beans. I had over revved the engine before landing but nothing else was
> damaged.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
>
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I bought three of these - goes to 40Kg - dirt cheap and accurate:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180679350359
It takes 2-3 weeks (Hong Kong). I hooked all three together in series with my bench
vise and compared the readings. I decided to stop at 50lbs; they all read
within a couple of ounces of each other. If they really go to 88lbs, well, that's
awesome for a $4 investment.
I figure these will help me weigh the various pieces of my plane during construction,
even the engine (hang the engine in two places with a scale on each hook,
then combine the readings).
Phil H.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
You can always reach TravIs @ 606-862-9692 or Bryan-@ 606-682-3388.=0A-
Frank Goodnight=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Dana Ha
gue <d-m-hague@comcast.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, Augu
st 8, 2011 8:00:48 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb=0A
=0AIt's all standard aircraft hardware, which you can get from outfits like
=0AAircraft Spruce.=0A=0A-Dana=0A=0AAt 08:22 PM 8/8/2011, thumbs wrote:=0A
>I have been trying to contact Kolb using email addresses on their sight.
- I have =0A>tried both customer support and travis's email.- All the e
mails I have tried =0A>come back not deliverable.- How do you get emails
to Kolb?=0A>=0A>I am trying to get a set, or two, of the attachment pins an
d keepers for my =0A>FirestarII.=0A=0A--=0ACause of crash: Inadvertent cont
=================== =0A
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Subject: | Re: Building scale |
Phil
Impressive! - but I hope you put on a safety strap, lest this $4 scale comes apart
when the engine is on it --
Russ K
On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Phil wrote:
> I bought three of these - goes to 40Kg - dirt cheap and accurate:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180679350359
>
> It takes 2-3 weeks (Hong Kong). I hooked all three together in series with my
bench vise and compared the readings. I decided to stop at 50lbs; they all read
within a couple of ounces of each other. If they really go to 88lbs, well,
that's awesome for a $4 investment.
>
> I figure these will help me weigh the various pieces of my plane during construction,
even the engine (hang the engine in two places with a scale on each hook,
then combine the readings).
>
> Phil H.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Building scale |
That black strap on top of the scale, amazingly, supported 50lbs in my simple test;
I have no doubt it could support 88lbs. And yes, weighing an engine would
involve hanging the scales on some kind of yoke above the engine (that's resting
comfortably on the floor) and lowering it down to the engine to hook it up,
and then slowly pulling up on the scales, not lifting the engine and hanging
it on the scales.
--- On Tue, 8/9/11, russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> wrote:
From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Building scale
Phil
Impressive! - but I hope you put on a safety strap, lest this $4 scale comes apart
when the engine is on it --
Russ K
On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Phil wrote:
I bought three of these - goes to 40Kg - dirt cheap and accurate:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180679350359
It takes 2-3 weeks (Hong Kong). I hooked all three together in series with my bench
vise and compared the readings. I decided to stop at 50lbs; they all read
within a couple of ounces of each other. If they really go to 88lbs, well, that's
awesome for a $4 investment.
I figure these will help me weigh the various pieces of my plane during construction,
even the engine (hang the engine in two places with a scale on each hook,
then combine the readings).
Phil H.
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Subject: | condensation on carb |
I have almost 5 hours on my new to me Kolbra and enjoying every minute of it, however
I am starting to come into some questions I am hoping someone here will
be able to help me out with.
First, I will try to attach a picture but not sure if it will come thru or not,
but after flying over the weekend I noticed condensation on the carb. At first
I thought it was a gas leak but it did not taste or smell like gas. It was
almost 100 degrees outside with a relative humidity around 60%. Is this normal?
Have you ever noticed this before on yours with these conditions? If so,
makes me wary of flying in the winter due to carb ice.
Second, I have and EIS and jabiru 2200. The last time I flew there was a 70 degree
difference the in the CHT's ( 245 to 250 on one to 300 to 320 on the other)
Any ideas on where to check (all cables and connections are tight).
Third, Initially the RPMS have been pretty consitant but the last time I flew they
fluctuated quite a bit and never really settled down, fluctuations were usually
from 200 to 500 rpms.
Lastly, performance, I have a 2200 and a warp drive ground adjustable 58" prop
( i do not know what it is set at but will check shortly) I am only getting
about 650 fpm climb solo. I am getting 2860 to 2940 climb/WOT. I think I should
take out some pitch but not sure how much to take out, any recommendations?
Thanks in advance
Travis
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http://vimeo.com/27508065
I received my class 10 video card yesterday, so a flight was in order to
check it out. I find that I didn't have enough foam padding, to be able
to screw it down tight enough that it didn't move, and keep the harmonic
wave out of it. After landing and checking it out, I redid the foam and
took another short flight. It appeared to be better. I will make a
longer test tomorrow. In the meantime here is a video of the results of
the lightning that we have been having.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
Travis,
The condensation on the carb is probably due the cold carb body (fuel evaporation
inside throat) and the relatively high moisture content in the hotter outside
air condensing on the colder surface. Just like on the outside of your iced
tea glass on a hot day. Does not mean you are having carb ice.
Assuming your engine is running properly and making power as it should, it appears
that you do need to reduce the pitch in your prop. At Vy and WOT you should
be seeing 3,000 rpm. The climb rate should improve somewhat with higher rpm
during climb. With over pitched prop on a 100 degree day you can't expect a very
high rate of climb with a direct drive engine. How much does your Kolbra weigh
empty and how much during your typical solo flight? Where are you located?
My rpms are steady (EIS). You should call Jabiru about this. They have been helpful
every time I've called.
All my CHTs are usually within 25-30 degrees of each other but it sometimes takes
some careful modifications of baffles in the air scoops to get this. Ask Jabiru
about this too.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
I just went and checked the prop pitch. It appears to be between 13 and 13.5 degrees
at the tip. (if I did it right).
Travis
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
Trvis,
forgot to mention that it would be helpful if you would reduce the size of your
photo attachments a bit before posting.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
Travis,
It is important to get both blades pitched as close to the same as
possible. 1/2 degree difference is not as close as they should be to
minimize vibrations.
Thom
On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:01 PM, "tkben002" <tkben002@bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> I just went and checked the prop pitch. It appears to be between 13 and 13.5
degrees at the tip. (if I did it right).
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> Travis
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
the kolbra empty is 580, and with me in it I am anywhere from 830 to 870 depending
on how much gas I have at the time.
The Cht probes are on cylinders 1 and 2 and I assumed those are the hottest cylinders
(which are yours on), the cht's on the previous flight were pretty close
to the same and the rpms were normal, just the last time everything fluctuated
quite a bit. I figured there was something loose (wire, etc) but I have been
unable to find it.
I have been taking my time trying to go over everything with the plane since it
is new to me, and trying to fine tune it the best I can.
Thanks,
Travis
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Subject: | Re: Looking for field and hanger space around Souderton Pa. |
I'm from Story Wyoming and flying a original firestar, I seen the topic on the
hanger space and I know the address you posted. I've known Wilson Kessler since
1977. My dad Larry Stenger sold his 1939 J-3 cub to him in 1980. Does anyone
know how Mr Kessler is doing these days ? Does he still have the cub ?
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http://vimeo.com/27511382
Here is the other part of my flight this morning. It will still have the
harmonics in it. I will make another tomorrow morning when I go to check
for cows for the neighbor. She lost about 30 of them, well misplaced
might be a better word.
I am hoping that a thicker pad will cure the problem, if not I may have
to go back to the nose for a mount. I really like it where it is as I
can turn it on and off while flying. The blue thingy is the sun
reflecting on the lens. I can try a shade, but sun is like the wind, one
way it is a pain, the other it is nice.
Larry
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Subject: | Not Aviation Related...or is it ! |
http://youtu.be/8QjZY3WiO9s
Think Engine Out on Climb Out
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Subject: | Re: The other one |
Larry,
I'm glad that you explained what the blue thingy was. Looked like a jelly
fish we have at the Jersey shore, Atlantic Ocean.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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In a message dated 8/9/2011 10:25:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lcottrell1020@gmail.com writes:
The blue thingy is the sun reflecting on the lens.
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Subject: | Re: Not Aviation Related...or is it ! |
I carry, and I practice engine outs. What's your point? That people who carry are
not good at forced landings?
??
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: condensation on carb |
It is impossible to figure out what you are trying to show. Use picture resizer
to get the picture to a manageable size.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Not Aviation Related...or is it ! |
I believe his point was currency to completion....My biannual check rides
just verify that I lower the nose and point to a field...checks in sailplane
are for straight ahead for tow break until 200 feet. I think the the
thread has been essentially that many of us succeed in step one of the
emergency response but aren't really ready for the rest of the sequence.
Here in Arizona the brainiacks in the legislature eliminated any requirement
for training for concealed carry...meaning we have lots of guns..like 2 per
capita...every where you go but most carriers being clueless in a difficult
situation....like Gifford in Tucson. Thats why cops have that pesky
constant recurrent training/practice.... and aviators particularly of the 2
cycle variety probably should also....not for the gun... but the engine
out...
Bob
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Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Not Aviation Related...or is it !
I carry, and I practice engine outs. What's your point? That people who
carry are not good at forced landings?
??
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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