Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:38 AM - Re wing collapse (Pat Ladd)
2. 05:07 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11 (Dan Breitigam)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Kolb Aircraft)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Michael Welch)
5. 07:46 AM - Re: Ordering parts from Kolb (Kolb Aircraft)
6. 09:35 AM - Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (AtomicDog)
7. 10:09 AM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Dana Hague)
8. 10:24 AM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (b young)
9. 10:32 AM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Richard Pike)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (fs2kolb@aol.com)
11. 11:48 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/11/11 (Bob Green)
12. 12:53 PM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Rex Rodebush)
13. 04:00 PM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Richard Pike)
14. 05:04 PM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Mic)
15. 06:26 PM - Re: Fat Pilot Fire Fly Fix (Beauford)
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Subject: | Re wing collapse |
David,
Wow! You must have lived an exemplary life to get out of that.
Congratulations again
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11 |
Bob G, I'm happy to hear of your progress on your MkIII, but didn't know you had
been working on it for this long! Glad you're about ready to move out here
to Collegedale airport, it's lonely having the only Kolb around.
In the last few days I've been able to finish my Twinstar project by finally installing
the last item required for flight, the prop. It's a GSC 66" two blade.
I also recently finished installing my independent disk brakes with both brake
levers on the control stick. Now for a lesson or two to learn tail-dragging.
Sounds like you had a good ol time at Oshkosh. Jealous, I am.
Dan Breitigam
Mark II, open, 503 DCDI
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
Frank
Please send us an email to customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com
We have several good pictures to send you of our new Fire Star II side
by side.
I do not have your email address here.
Travis
Kolb CO.
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From: frank goodnight
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb
You can always reach TravIs @ 606-862-9692 or Bryan @ 606-682-3388.
Frank Goodnight
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From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, August 8, 2011 8:00:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb
It's all standard aircraft hardware, which you can get from outfits
like Aircraft Spruce.
-Dana
At 08:22 PM 8/8/2011, thumbs wrote:
I have been trying to contact Kolb using email addresses on their
sight. I have tried both customer support and travis's email. All the
emails I have tried come back not deliverable. How do you get emails to
Kolb?
I am trying to get a set, or two, of the attachment pins and keepers
for my FirestarII.
--
Cause of crash: Inadvertent contact with the ground.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
Travis,
Why not share all these FireStar II side-by-side photos with all of us
on the Kolb list?
Everyone here always enjoys seeing Kolbs, especially brand new ones!!
Mike Welch
N212MN MkIII
> Frank
> Please send us an email to customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com
> We have several good pictures to send you of our new Fire Star II
side by side.
> I do not have your email address here.
>
> Travis
> Kolb CO.
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Subject: | Re: Ordering parts from Kolb |
Because the pictures are not on this computer yet. I will post them on
the list soon.
Brian's wife has them on her computer at home.
Travis
Kolb CO.
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From: Michael Welch
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ordering parts from Kolb
Travis,
Why not share all these FireStar II side-by-side photos with all of
us on the Kolb list?
Everyone here always enjoys seeing Kolbs, especially brand new ones!!
Mike Welch
N212MN MkIII
Frank
Please send us an email to customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com
We have several good pictures to send you of our new Fire Star II
side by side.
I do not have your email address here.
Travis
Kolb CO.
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Subject: | Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
I am working on my firestar and ready to order my prop. However one of the options
is for a spinner. My question is, are there any advantages to putting a spinner
on a pusher type aircraft. I can see the aerodynamic advantages on a tractor
aircraft, but I think these advantages are lost on a pusher.
I do like the looks of a prop with spinner however I am trying to keep the weight
down.
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Building Firestar II
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
At 12:33 PM 8/12/2011, AtomicDog wrote:
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>I am working on my firestar and ready to order my prop. However one of the
>options is for a spinner. My question is, are there any advantages to
>putting a spinner on a pusher type aircraft. I can see the aerodynamic
>advantages on a tractor aircraft, but I think these advantages are lost on
>a pusher.
>
>I do like the looks of a prop with spinner however I am trying to keep the
>weight down.
A spinner can be as much of an advantage on a pusher as a tractor. There
was an article in Ultraflight magazine a year or so ago, a guy put one on
his PPC... he reported 5-10% thrust increase, which translates into a
similar improvement in rate of climb.
-Dana
--
Bismark said God looks after fools, drunks, and the United
States.
He didn't say how long the Almighty's patience might endure.
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
I am working on my firestar and ready to order my prop. However one of the
options is for a spinner. My question is, are there any advantages to
putting a spinner on a pusher type aircraft. I can see the aerodynamic
advantages on a tractor aircraft, but I think these advantages are lost on a
pusher.
I do like the looks of a prop with spinner however I am trying to keep the
weight down.
--------
Building Firestar II
what little i have been schooled that in aerodynamics,,,, at least at the
speeds we fly, it doesn't make much difference in how you disturb or open
up the air space,,, but it makes more difference in how you close it,
example: for total drag reduction, a blunt leading edge and tapered
trailing edge, is better or has less drag than a tapered leading edge and
a blunt trailing edge. so the spinner would be better on a pusher than a
tractor, for total drag reduction,,, now as fer purdy,,, that is a whole
different ball of wax.
boyd young
mkiii
utah
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
Here's a cheap spinner: a Motorcraft air filter.
If anybody is interested, I'll try and find out the part number, anyway it is plastic
and easy to do.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0880_large_580.jpg
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
Motorcraft Air Filter FA1632
Here's a cheap spinner: a Motorcraft air filter.
If anybody is interested, I'll try and find out the part number, anyway it
is
plastic and easy to do.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 08/11/11 |
Thanks Dennis for the correction on the spelling of "ded-reckoning". It is the
pronunciation that always bothered me.
For the 6'7" 200 plus Kolber... I am 6'3' and weigh in at 260. So glad Mr Kolb
designed something for us "abnormally tall and heavy" people. Richard P.s
MKIII with Rotax two cylinder handled our size and weight fine. Even on a 700
foot strip with power lines on one end... the departure end.
The new horizontal brackets should give you the adjustment range you desire and
help with the trim.
Keep me posted on what you come up with.
B Green
N830PB, MKIIIX project
GPAS VW with re-drive
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
When I ordered my Warp Drive prop I asked the guy (don't remember his name) about
a spinner and he said it would be for looks only on a pusher. But it seems
to me there should be some drag reduction. How much is the question??
Rex
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
[quote="fs2kolb(at)aol.com"]
> Motorcraft Air Filter FA1632
Hey! I bet that's why that particular picture had the tag it did!
(Facepalm)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? |
Good idea Richard.
I suspect from previous experience with boat hulls being designed for optimum benefit
as the water passes aft of the greatest beam, that aircraft would experience
a similar benefit as they move through the air. A quick review of leading
and trailing edge wing design would probably show this quite clearly.
I like the simple solution of this suggestion as well. After all it's not quite
rocket science is it?
--------
Mic
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in
delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
Carl Sagan
"Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire."
W.B. Yeats
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Subject: | Fat Pilot Fire Fly Fix |
Kolbers:
Thanks to those who offered input to the Fat Fly driver problem. Your ideas
are sincerely appreciated.
I had worked through some of your suggestions in the last couple of years.
ailerons are gap sealed and reflexed, VG's are
on underside of stabs and various amounts of weight have been tried on the
tail. I hate to make the little sucker any heavier,
since it is already fat enough with Florida paint, BRS5, big wheels, etc..
already glides like a bucket of roofing cement.
I had a short conversation with Travis and Brian at the Kolb Works this
morning. they recommended working half-inch increments, which
seems to track with the opinions of you folks, so that is what I'll try. I
suspect Brother Girard's suggestion about gap-sealing the
elevators is a good idea as well.will do that too.
I have the old brackets off and have prepared the new ones. Tomorrow the
paint.
The Formidible Mrs. Beauford's rather indelicate suggestions for addressing
the heavy Fly driver problem continue to be delivered at regular intervals
as
she passes by my work site out on the driveway griddle. One would think 46
years of matrimonial bliss would count for something. but on second
thought.
Thanks again, Gents.
Beauford
FF-076
Steamy Brandon, FL
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beauford
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 1:56 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Fat Pilot Fire Fly Fix
Kolbers and Kolbettes:
Anyone out there have any advice to offer.? besides laying off the
stogies, Beefeaters and Original Crispy, that is.
Any wisdom (preferably based on experience) would be appreciated.
Beauford
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