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Sat 08/13/11


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 01:38 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Pat Ladd)
     2. 03:55 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:02 AM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11 (Richard Pike)
     4. 06:32 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (frank goodnight)
     5. 06:56 AM - Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (SS568)
     6. 11:36 AM - Streamlining a Kolb? (Thom Riddle)
     7. 01:12 PM - Kolb Homecoming and or Fly-in (Mic)
     8. 07:31 PM - Re: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11 (Phil)
     9. 07:42 PM - Welding? (Phil)
    10. 08:11 PM - Re: Welding? (Larry Cottrell)
    11. 08:12 PM - Re: Fat Pilot Fire Fly Fix (Kip)
    12. 08:20 PM - Re: Welding? (william sullivan)
    13. 08:23 PM - Re: Welding? (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    14. 08:24 PM - Re: Welding? (pcking)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:38:22 AM PST US
    From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ???
    I am sure that my wife has a plastic bowl of about the right shape and dimensions in the kitchen (Not an area of the house with which I am familiar) Cheers Pat


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    Time: 03:55:44 AM PST US
    From: Thom Riddle <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ???
    Pat, Do you mean to say that your wife does not allow you to enjoy cooking, not to mention the satisfaction derived from washing dishes? That is mean of her. Do not archive. Thom in Buffalo On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote: > > I am sure that my wife has a plastic bowl of about the right shape and > dimensions in the kitchen (Not an area of the house with which I am > familiar) > > Cheers > > Pat > >


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    Time: 05:02:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    bgreen(at)bimi.org wrote: > > > Never have had to make an emergency landing but have always flown with aircraft equipped with 4 stroke engines. It seems back when I first started flying (Aeronca Champ) the instructor would cut the engine off for me to practice a "dead stick" landing. Never have liked that expression or "dead-reckoning" either. Seems the FAA has discouraged that engine out practice. > N830PB > MKIIIX GPAS VW 2180 with re-drive When I was learning to fly at Burnside-Ott back in the late 60's, their company policy was that the FAR prohibiting flight within 500' of any person or object meant that you didn't take their property (their airplane) below 500' AGL while practice engine-outs. Since my first private pilot check ride did not go well (their designee was know as "The Grim Reaper," because he would always flunk everybody on their first try. Got the company at least 3 more hours of flight time/money out of every student...) I chose to go with a different check pilot. He was a controller at North Perry airport, and when it came to the engine out part of the exam, he had maneuvered me to a spot in the Everglades where there was a strip of asphalt about 20' wide and 1500' long. He pulled the power and gave me the usual instructions and as I was looking for a likely field, he pointed to that asphalt patch (which I had never noticed before) and said "Put it there." I went through the motions and when we got down to 500' AGL, I looked at him questioningly. He looked back at me and said "I don't work for Burnside-Ott, keep going." Turned out I would have come up 20' short, he gave me the power back at around 50' AGL and told me to try it again. 2nd time was good, he gave me the power back just before it would have been a touch and go. My kind of FAA guy. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349307#349307


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    Time: 06:32:58 AM PST US
    From: frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ???
    Morning Richard,=0AI'm interested in a cheap spinner.Was thinking about a h igh priced one.cheap is =0Abetter.=0AFrank=0A=0A=0A-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______ __________________________=0AFrom: "fs2kolb@aol.com" <fs2kolb@aol.com>=0ATo : kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, August 12, 2011 1:10:35 PM=0ASubject : Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ???=0A=0AMotorcraf ichard@bcchapel.org> Here's a =0Acheap spinner: a Motorcraft air filter. If anybody is interested, I'll try and =0Afind out the part number, anyway it is plastic and easy to do. Richard Pike =0AMKIII N420P (420ldPoops) ============== =0A


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    Time: 06:56:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ???
    From: "SS568" <david@PaulowniaTrees.com>
    Just walk thru walmart, dollar store etc.. There are plenty of plastic shapes that would make a spinner. But how is it to be attached to the hub? And some of these plastics degrade in a year or so. David d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349310#349310


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    Time: 11:36:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Streamlining a Kolb?
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Inspired by Jack Hart's efforts to get more bang from his gasoline buck, I decided to attempt a couple streamlining projects. I added home made gear leg fairings, which I told the list about last year, I think. They added 2 mph to my normal cruise speed. I took them off later to adjust my toe-in by bending the gear legs. I finally got around to painting them and putting them back on last week. This week I devised a mount for some old wheel pants that came off a Rans S-6. These are good pants/spats as they made a 4 mph difference in the Rans. Since the Slingshot is a good bit slower, I expected maybe 3 mph gain. They are worth 2 mph on the Slingshot. I don't intend to fly faster but rather same speed as before with less fuel burn. The most noticeable difference from adding the wheel pants was a change in trim requirement. I had to add a little nose down trim to compensate for the reduced drag below the aerodynamic center. Since I had a little nose up trim at cruise before the wheel pants were installed, this was a good thing. I will take and post some photos after I paint the wheel pants, next week. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Truth is what stands the test of experience. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349321#349321


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    Time: 01:12:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Kolb Homecoming and or Fly-in
    From: "Mic" <miceire@gmail.com>
    Does anyone know if there will be a Kolb homecoming fly-in this year or if there are any fly-ins scheduled this fall. I found a mention of the Naugua Fly-in posted last week but no other info was mentioned. -------- Mic &quot;It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.&quot; Carl Sagan &quot;Education is not filling a bucket, but lighting a fire.&quot; W.B. Yeats Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349330#349330


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    Time: 07:31:59 PM PST US
    From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11
    Hi Richard: I read your page (for about the 20th time) about the Aeroshield 2604 prop t ape you used. You wondered why the prop was quieter? Could it be because of the pinking; whether it's the same principle as dimples on a golf ball or VGs; that it makes the blades slip through the air with less turbulence? - Does-Powerfin's black plastic urethane tape have the same pinked edge? Do you have any of either left? I don't need it now, but I will when I get my plane... Phil H. --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 08/10/11 bgreen(at)bimi.org wrote: > > >- Never have had to make an emergency landing but have always flown with aircraft equipped with 4 stroke engines.- It seems back when I first sta rted flying (Aeronca Champ) the instructor would cut the engine off for me to practice a "dead stick" landing.- Never have liked that expression or "dead-reckoning" either.- Seems the FAA has discouraged that engine out p ractice.- > N830PB > MKIIIX GPAS VW 2180 with re-drive When I was learning to fly at Burnside-Ott back in the late 60's, their com pany policy was that the FAR prohibiting flight within 500' of any person o r object meant that you didn't take their property (their airplane) below 5 00' AGL while practice engine-outs. Since my first private pilot check ride did not go well (their designee was know as "The Grim Reaper," because he would always flunk everybody on thei r first try. Got the company at least 3 more hours of flight time/money out of every student...) I chose to go with a different check pilot. He was a controller at North Perry airport, and when it came to the engine out part of the exam, he had maneuvered me to a spot in the Everglades where there w as a strip of asphalt about 20' wide and 1500' long. He pulled the power and gave me the usual instructions and as I was looking for a likely field, he pointed to that asphalt patch (which I had never no ticed before) and said "Put it there." I went through the motions and when we got down to 500' AGL, I looked at him questioningly. He looked back at m e and said "I don't work for Burnside-Ott, keep going." Turned out I would have come up 20' short, he gave me the power back at around 50' AGL and tol d me to try it again. 2nd time was good, he gave me the power back just bef ore it would have been a touch and go. My kind of FAA guy. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349307#349307 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 07:42:15 PM PST US
    From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Welding?
    It's time I bought a welder and learned how to weld; mainly 4130 tubing and other light stock. Could some of you expert welders out there lend a few suggestions? 1. MIG or TIG? I know the difference, I just don't know which is more appropriate for 4130 welding. I'm guessing TIG? 2. How much should I spend on my first welder? I see some $110 boxes out there. 3. Is a 120v unit sufficient? 4. Any other tips and advice would be appreciated! Phil H.


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    Time: 08:11:36 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Welding?
    The better work is done with a TIG. As a retired welder I can only say "Don't scrimp on your machine" Buy the absolute best you can afford. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:40 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Welding? It's time I bought a welder and learned how to weld; mainly 4130 tubing and other light stock. Could some of you expert welders out there lend a few suggestions? 1. MIG or TIG? I know the difference, I just don't know which is more appropriate for 4130 welding. I'm guessing TIG? 2. How much should I spend on my first welder? I see some $110 boxes out there. 3. Is a 120v unit sufficient? 4. Any other tips and advice would be appreciated! Phil H.


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    Time: 08:12:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fat Pilot Fire Fly Fix
    From: "Kip" <klaurie@mindspring.com>
    Good luck, Beauford. That's some good reading... [Laughing] -------- 2000 Firestar II R503 DCDI VLS 750 2010 Waiex Jabiru 3300 20?? Pitts Special S-1C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349356#349356


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    Time: 08:20:36 PM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Welding?
    - Phil- A few things come to mind.- Anyone with reasonable eye/hand coo rdination can learn to weld.- If you have little or no experience, your l ocal dealer usually gives short introductory lessons.- Or, a course at yo ur local tech school, adult education program, or community college will be a great help.- Plan on practicing a lot, before trying it for keeps. - Equipment:- Harbor Freight has a nice electronic welding helmet for u nder $50.- I got mine with a coupon for $39.- Welding machines:- Do y ourself a favor, and buy a name brand machine- Lincoln, Miller, Hobart, etc .- The cheap Chinese made ones may or may not last, and parts will be dif ficult to find.- Visit your local welding supply dealers. - Type:- The bulk of my experience is with stick welding, but I used a Lincoln flux core MIG to fabricate a new front cage for my old Firestar.- Inside, you can use a gas MIG or a TIG, but if the wind is blowing the shi elding gas gives you a hard time.- I have no TIG experience.- For someo ne of limited experience, use a good flux core machine.- 110v is okay, as the machine will not overheat with the service you will give it. - Clean your materials!- Oil, mill scale, or the "soap" preservative wi ll interfere with a good weld.- Slag from a torch cut should be ground do wn. - Get a 110v Dremel tool, with accessories.- You will never regret it. - Get a 4" or 4 1/2" angle grinder.--I have a Ryobi.- Got it on sal e at Home Depot for $39.- Works great.- use grinding wheels for shaping , and use "flap" wheels for clean and polish.- Remove any slag, both betw een welds, and after welding. - Practice, practice, and practice.- The time and material are never wa sted.- Remember to wear dark clothing, and welding gloves.- Never cool with water!- Air cool only, so the steel won't get brittle.- You have t o play with a machine to know the heat ranges and wire feed speeds. - Good luck, and have fun. - ------------------------- ------------------------- - Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- - Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- --FS 447 --- On Sat, 8/13/11, Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Welding? It's time I bought a welder and learned how to weld; mainly 4130 tubing and other light stock. Could some of you expert welders out there lend a few s uggestions? 1. MIG or TIG? I know the difference, I just don't know which is more appro priate for 4130 welding. I'm guessing TIG? 2. How much should I spend on my first welder? I see some $110 boxes out th ere. 3. Is a 120v unit sufficient? 4. Any other tips and advice would be appreciated! Phil H.


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    Time: 08:23:19 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Welding?
    I agree with Larry. Also if you get high frequency you will have the capability to weld aluminum. Ed Diebel FF # 62 In a message dated 8/13/2011 10:11:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lcottrell1020@gmail.com writes: The better work is done with a TIG. As a retired welder I can only say "Don't scrimp on your machine" Buy the absolute best you can afford. Larry


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    Time: 08:24:39 PM PST US
    From: "pcking" <pc.king@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Welding?
    Have you considered attending a Sportair workshop? They take place around the country on everything from fabric to welding. The latest one is in Griffin GA on Aug 20/21. It's well worth the $359 price. The $110 welder is not even a player. Check the schedule for a workshop in your geography. LIMITED SPACE LEFT IN SPORTAIR TIG WELDING COURSE There's still room left in the EAA SportAir Workshops TIG Welding course being held in Griffin, Georgia, set for next weekend, August 20-21, presented in conjunction with Lincoln Electric and the Alexander Technical Center. Students learn in a state-of-the-art welding workshop with 12 professional welding booths using Lincoln Precision TIG 225 welding units for instruction. Also included is classroom time learning welding basics. Tuition for EAA members is $359 and includes all materials. Register online here or call 800-967-5746. And you can pay class fees in three easy installments with EZ Pay. To learn more about this affordable option, call 800-967-5746 and speak with an EAA member representative. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 11:08 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Welding? The better work is done with a TIG. As a retired welder I can only say "Don't scrimp on your machine" Buy the absolute best you can afford. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:40 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Welding? It's time I bought a welder and learned how to weld; mainly 4130 tubing and other light stock. Could some of you expert welders out there lend a few suggestions? 1. MIG or TIG? I know the difference, I just don't know which is more appropriate for 4130 welding. I'm guessing TIG? 2. How much should I spend on my first welder? I see some $110 boxes out there. 3. Is a 120v unit sufficient? 4. Any other tips and advice would be appreciated! Phil H. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c




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