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1. 07:45 AM - Re: Welding? (Rex Rodebush)
2. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (Phil)
3. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Aging out (HShack@aol.com)
4. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: I like pictures (Kolb Aircraft)
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (william sullivan)
6. 08:33 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (Michael Welch)
7. 08:44 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (william sullivan)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (Phil)
9. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (william sullivan)
10. 03:53 PM - Re: I like pictures (tkben002)
11. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: I like pictures (chris davis)
12. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: I like pictures (chris davis)
13. 07:30 PM - Re: I like pictures (Richard Pike)
14. 09:06 PM - Re: Aging out (Ron @ KFHU)
15. 11:03 PM - Compass mount in your nice Kolbra... (Nick Cassara)
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If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator. My set came with
a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was constantly
changing. I bought a good two stage and it made a world of difference.
Rex
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In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550, which is
the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it doesn't
make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd have to fil
l them anyway.
But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages, local in
ternet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy tanks, I've gott
en prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27 for Acet. and $12-
15 for Oxy.
And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to braz
e aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in a past
life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I used to do
residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the Bay Area.
Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator.- My set
came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was
constantly changing.- I bought a good two stage and it made a world of d
ifference.
Rex
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349489#349489
le, List Admin.
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Friend has MkIII with 912S in South Carolina. Well kept. Always hangared.
In a message dated 8/14/2011 11:17:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gpabruce@gmail.com writes:
Say does anyone know of a KOLB for sale? Single or dual will work.
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| Subject: | Re: I like pictures |
I have never seen a Kolbra as you say Kolbled together.
This statement makes no since to me.
Travis
Kolb Co LLC
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris davis" <capedavis@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures
>
> Travis ,That is the best looking Kolbra I have seen ,most of them look
> kobled together but yours is nice and smooth! Thanks for the pics chris
>
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tkben002 <tkben002@bellsouth.net>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 5:45 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures
>
>
> Well, my name is Travis. I was more worried about re-sizing the pictures
> down and forgot to sign the post, no biggie
>
> Chris, any new videos, I think I have watched all 66 of them 2 or 3 times
> lately, (there just is not that much on youtube)
>
> Travis
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349429#349429
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- Phil- If you have a local Tractor Supply, they usually have gasses.-
The regulators that come with the Victor 250 are great.
-
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-------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550, which is
the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it doesn't
make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd have to fil
l them anyway.
But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages, local in
ternet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy tanks, I've gott
en prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27 for Acet. and $12-
15 for Oxy.
And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to braz
e aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in a past
life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I used to do
residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the Bay Area.
Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator.- My set
came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was
constantly changing.- I bought a good two stage and it made a world of d
ifference.
Rex
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as List sp;---> http://foru- - - - - ---- List Contribut
ion We - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
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Phil,
I admit that TIG welding is the best of all, but it isn't very
practical for a do-it-yourselfer,
in his garage.
For me, I couldn't imagine not having a wire feed MIG, AND a
oxy/acetylene set. There
are just too many things for a guy that needs to fabricate and BOTH are
indispensable.
I have a basic two-stage oxy/acetylene welding set. I bought the
bottles USED from
my local gas supplier. They came filled!! Don't waste your money on
new, because
when you need to go refill them, they'll switch yours out for a used
set.
For my wire feed, I have one of those 110v Lincoln units. They handle
99% of the things
I ever need. I also bought the "optional" MIG conversion kit...a VERY
worthwhile investment.
Flux cored is 'ok', but the gas adds a big improvement. I got the
bottle & gas used, too.
With these two welding set-ups, the torch set and the 110v MIG wire
feed, I can weld
or cut about everything I ever need to work on. For really big stuff, I
have a 220v Lincoln
stick welder. Beyond that...I go to my local welding shop.
Mike Welch
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Phil wrote:
> In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550,
which is the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
>
> I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it
doesn't make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd
have to fill them anyway.
>
> But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages,
local internet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy
tanks, I've gotten prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27
for Acet. and $12-15 for Oxy.
>
> And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to
braze aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in
a past life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I
used to do residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the
Bay Area.
>
> Phil H.
>
>
> --- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, August 15, 2011, 10:43 AM
>
>
> If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator. My
set came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the
flow was constantly changing. I bought a good two stage and it made a
world of difference.
>
> Rex
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= the many List utilities
such as List sp; --> http://foru - List Contribution We
-Matt Dralle, List m/contribution"
target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
>
>
>
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- Mike- Basically, you described the equipment I have here.- Same MIG L
incoln, but I don't have the gas add-on.- I also have a 220 volt -Linco
ln "tombstone" AC welder-that handles everything else.- Good recommenda
tion on the bottles- they switch mine out, too.- 1/8" 6013 Lincoln rod ha
ndles most stuff you run into, and is not moisture sensative.
- Most problems with weld quality are in the skill of the operator.- Pr
actice!!!-
-
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-------------- Bill Sullivan
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--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
Phil,
- I admit that TIG welding is the best of all, but it isn't very practica
l for a do-it-yourselfer,
in his garage. -
- For me, I couldn't imagine not having a wire feed MIG, AND a oxy/acetyl
ene set. -There
are just too many things for a guy that needs to fabricate and BOTH are ind
ispensable.
- I have a basic two-stage oxy/acetylene welding set. -I bought the bot
tles USED from-
my local gas supplier. -They came filled!! - Don't waste your money on
new, because
when you need to go refill them, they'll switch yours out for a used set.
- For my wire feed, I have one of those 110v Lincoln units. -They handl
e 99% of the things
I ever need. -I also bought the "optional" MIG conversion kit...a VERY wo
rthwhile investment.
Flux cored is 'ok', but the gas adds a big improvement. -I got the bottle
& gas used, too.
- With these two welding set-ups, the torch set and the 110v MIG wire fee
d, I can weld
or cut about everything I ever need to work on. -For really big stuff, I
have a 220v Lincoln
stick welder. -Beyond that...I go to my local welding shop.
Mike Welch
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Phil wrote:
In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550, which is
the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it doesn't
make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd have to fil
l them anyway.
But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages, local in
ternet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy tanks, I've gott
en prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27 for Acet. and $12-
15 for Oxy.
And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to braz
e aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in a past
life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I used to do
residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the Bay Area.
Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator.- My set
came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was
constantly changing.- I bought a good two stage and it made a world of d
ifference.
Rex
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= the many List utilities such
as List sp;---> http://foru- - - - - ---- List Contribut
ion We - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
, List m/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contributio
n
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com/Navigator?Kolb-List
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href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/con
tribution
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Darn. Tractor Supply! Why didn't I remember that? Just called 'em. Good pri
ces, in stock, initial purchase is reasonable, refills are reasonable...
-
The guy didn't even wonder what I was talking about; started right in descr
ibing what they had and the swap-out procedure/prices.
-
Always did like that place.
Thank you, Bill - Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
- Phil- If you have a local Tractor Supply, they usually have gasses.-
The regulators that come with the Victor 250 are great.
-
-------------------------
-------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550, which is
the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it doesn't
make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd have to fil
l them anyway.
But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages, local in
ternet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy tanks, I've gott
en prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27 for Acet. and $12-
15 for Oxy.
And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to braz
e aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in a past
life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I used to do
residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the Bay Area.
Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator.- My set
came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was
constantly changing.- I bought a good two stage and it made a world of d
ifference.
Rex
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= the many List utilities such
as List sp;---> http://foru- - - - - ---- List Contribut
ion We - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
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- Tractor Supply- the big boys toy store!- Love it!
-
do not archive.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
Darn. Tractor Supply! Why didn't I remember that? Just called 'em. Good pri
ces, in stock, initial purchase is reasonable, refills are reasonable...
-
The guy didn't even wonder what I was talking about; started right in descr
ibing what they had and the swap-out procedure/prices.
-
Always did like that place.
Thank you, Bill - Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote:
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
- Phil- If you have a local Tractor Supply, they usually have gasses.-
The regulators that come with the Victor 250 are great.
-
-------------------------
-------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Phil <phactor9@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
In fact, I found what seems to be a good price for the 0384-2550, which is
the Victor Firepower 250 kit - $150 plus a little S/H.
I'm now in the process of looking for a couple of tanks locally; it doesn't
make sense to buy them online cause they'll come empty and I'd have to fil
l them anyway.
But finding tanks locally has been really difficult (yellow pages, local in
ternet...). Still looking. For the 10cf Acet. and 20cf Oxy tanks, I've gott
en prices from $169 to $200, with refill rates of $21-27 for Acet. and $12-
15 for Oxy.
And I've been watching YouTube videos; how to gas weld and even how to braz
e aluminum. Seems simple enough... I used to sweat tons of copper in a past
life (MAPP gas); 1/2" all the way up to 2", 3" even 4" pipe. I used to do
residential/commercial water heaters for a living out in the Bay Area.
Phil H.
--- On Mon, 8/15/11, Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rex Rodebush <jrrodebush@gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding?
If you get a gas welder make sure you get a two stage regulator.- My set
came with a single stage and it made welding very difficult as the flow was
constantly changing.- I bought a good two stage and it made a world of d
ifference.
Rex
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= the many List utilities such
as List sp;---> http://foru- - - - - ---- List Contribut
ion We - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle
, List m/contribution" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contributio
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| Subject: | Re: I like pictures |
Thanks for the kind words. I am kinda partial since it is mine now but Ralph's
yellow Kolbra is what got me interested.
Travis
I am not sure what kobled is either......
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| Subject: | Re: I like pictures |
Kobled in my opinion means like pieces stuck together with no respect for f
low , or odd size pieces stuck ,together , something a child would make wit
h the pieces at hand .when given odd shaped blocks and told to buiild an ai
plane just my 2cents Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider P
ilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: tkben002 <tkben002@b
ellsouth.net>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, August 15, 2011
6:51 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures=0A=0A--> Kolb-List messa
ge posted by: "tkben002" <tkben002@bellsouth.net>=0A=0AThanks for the kind
words.- I am kinda partial since it is mine now but Ralph's yellow Kolbra
is what got me interested.=0A=0ATravis=0A=0AI am not sure what kobled is e
ither......=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.m
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| Subject: | Re: I like pictures |
Travis , The term I used refers more to the basic design , The rest of the
Kolbs have a nice Flow a smooth aerodynamic smoothness but the Kolbra is ch
unky "in my opinion" it looks to me like pieces of a Kolb stuck together to
make a two place tandem out of a big single place big engine aircraft- .
your friend Chris , just my 2 cents=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AG
lider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: Kolb Aircraft
<customersupport@tnkolbaircraft.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent:
Monday, August 15, 2011 11:11 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I like pict
@tnkolbaircraft.com>=0A=0AI have never seen a Kolbra as you say Kolbled tog
ether.=0AThis statement makes no since to me.=0A=0ATravis=0AKolb Co LLC=0A
=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: "chris davis" <capedavis@yahoo.
com>=0ATo: <kolb-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:58 P
M=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures=0A=0A=0A> --> Kolb-List mes
sage posted by: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>=0A>=0A> Travis ,That is t
he best looking Kolbra I have seen ,most of them look =0A> kobled together
but yours is nice and smooth! Thanks for the pics chris=0A>=0A>=0A> Chris D
avis=0A> KXP 503 492 hrs=0A> Glider Pilot=0A> Disabled from crash building
Firefly=0A>=0A>=0A> ----- Original Message -----=0A> From: tkben002 <tkben0
02@bellsouth.net>=0A> To: kolb-list@matronics.com=0A> Cc:=0A> Sent: Sunday,
August 14, 2011 5:45 PM=0A> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures=0A>=0A
=0A> Well, my name is Travis. I was more worried about re-sizing the pictur
es =0A> down and forgot to sign the post, no biggie=0A>=0A> Chris, any new
videos, I think I have watched all 66 of them 2 or 3 times =0A> lately, (th
ere just is not that much on youtube)=0A>=0A> Travis=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Re
ad this topic online here:=0A>=0A> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.ph
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| Subject: | Re: I like pictures |
capedavis(at)yahoo.com wrote:
> Kobled in my opinion means like pieces stuck together with no respect for flow
, or odd size pieces stuck ,together , something a child would make with the
pieces at hand .when given odd shaped blocks and told to buiild an aiplane just
my 2cents Chris
>
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
Do you mean cobbled?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
--------
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Hebrews 11:1
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| From: | "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> |
Its the same at my airport.
Ron @ Kfhu
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---- Dennis Thate <retroman@frontier.com> wrote:
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I attended our local EAA chapter today and volunteered to help out with the annual
Fly-In breakfast. This well established group of all men in their 70's & 80's
is struggling to bring in new memberships. There are simply no younger members
to take over, even in this small University city with a well established
college aviation program.
I fear the end of what we love, 'sport aviation' could be fading away .
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so.
Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Compass mount in your nice Kolbra... |
Hello Travis,
Nice Kolbra! Did you recover it? What production number is it?
How is your vertical card compass attached to your wind shield?
Thanks for resizing those pictures!!!!!!!!!J
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
Kolbra #1
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Hope I got that alright!
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