---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/17/11: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 AM - Re: Should you give up flying ? (planecrazzzy) 2. 05:05 AM - Re: A day of fun, 8.11.11 (David Kulp) 3. 06:12 AM - Re: KOLB Gathering .... (Stephen Spence) 4. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: [KOLB] Ok Kolbers....I am thinking of having a KOLB FLY... (Stephen Spence) 5. 06:48 AM - Re: Welding? (John Bickham) 6. 09:47 AM - Re: Welding (SS568) 7. 10:28 AM - Re: Re: Welding (b young) 8. 10:54 AM - Re: Should you give up flying ? (Dennis Thate) 9. 11:03 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (Phil) 10. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Pat Ladd) 11. 11:51 AM - Re: Re: Welding? (robert bean) 12. 12:25 PM - Re: Welding? (ces308) 13. 01:04 PM - Muffler & Header paint (Beauford) 14. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Welding? (william sullivan) 15. 02:55 PM - Re: Muffler & Header paint (Larry Cottrell) 16. 03:18 PM - Re: I like pictures (kolbaircraft) 17. 03:51 PM - Re: Muffler & Header paint (chris davis) 18. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: I like pictures (chris davis) 19. 04:15 PM - Re: A day of fun, 8.11.11 (Gary Thacker) 20. 04:40 PM - Re: I like pictures (kolbaircraft) 21. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Should you give up flying ? (russ kinne) 22. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Should you give up flying ? (russ kinne) 23. 07:52 PM - Re: KOLB Gathering .... (Ron @ KFHU) 24. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Ron @ KFHU) 25. 08:27 PM - Re: Muffler & Header paint (DAquaNut@aol.com) 26. 08:36 PM - Re: Muffler & Header paint (DAquaNut@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:13 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Should you give up flying ? From: "planecrazzzy" We like Kolbs and jokes... Actually... we keep it pretty loose.... not much for Rules or whiners .. .. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ .. .. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/ .. .. It was sad to pop in and see the same old "pile on" Oh well.... That's why I've moved on... Haven't seen a post from John H in a while... .. .. -------- .. .. .. .. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349730#349730 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:33 AM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A day of fun, 8.11.11 Gosh! Just checked the link and found it just took me to the landing video. You can see all the pix and vids that Gary took if you go to: http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/thumbs47/Daves%20Field/ There, that's better. Enjoy your day; mine's another beaut so I'll be riding the FlagFly around again today. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ** Here's the link to the pix and videos Gary took. Thanks, Gary!!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/thumbs47/Daves%20Field/?action=view¤t=DSCN0594.mp4 ** ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:12 AM PST US From: Stephen Spence Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KOLB Gathering .... Sounds great to me, plenty of lead time to arrange the schedule.=0A=0ASteve Spence=0Aformer Mk3X=0Acurrent Rans S7-S=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0AFrom: ces308 =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.c om=0ASent: Tue, August 16, 2011 4:21:14 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: KOLB Gathe =0A=0AOk Kolbers....I am thinking of having a KOLB FLY IN GATHERING or what ever =0Ayou're flying at the time the weekend of the 17th,18th and 19th of AUGUST =0A,2012...with Saturday being the BIG day...camping at the airport or there is a =0Amotel at end of the runway 34 . I was thinking hot dogs F riday night after =0Aarrival,a fly out for breakfast Saturday morning,dinne r provided Saturday night =0Aand donuts and coffee Sunday morning before de parture....is anybody =0Ainterested???=0A=0AThis would be at Houghton Lake State Airport , 5Y2...2750 feet sod runway.=0A=0Achris ambrose=0AM3X/Jabiru - - 210.00 hrs=0AN327CS=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349677#349677=0A=0A=0A=0A =============== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:25 AM PST US From: Stephen Spence Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: [KOLB] Ok Kolbers....I am thinking of having a KOLB FLY... Rick:=0A=0ALove to be a part of that trip, will depend on how new house at Lakes of the =0ANorth (4Y4) is coming along as well as move in.=0A=0ASteve Spence=0Aformerly Mk3X=0Acurrent Rans S7-S=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________ ______________=0AFrom: Rick Neilsen =0ATo: kolb-list@m atronics.com=0ASent: Tue, August 16, 2011 9:28:00 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: [KOLB] Ok Kolbers....I am thinking of having a KOLB =0AFLY...=0A=0AChri s =0A=0AI changed this to the whole Kolb list. Sounds like fun. I have been meaning to =0Apop over to the middle of the state to see you but....=0A=0A Don't meant to step on your idea but I have been also thinking of a second =0Aannual fly the lake(Lake Michigan) and sand dunes flyin at Hart-Shelby, Oceana =0ACounty Michigan (C04). Camping on the grounds is OK with the airp ort manager if =0Aa large group drops in. If only 3-4 fly in you are all we lcome at my house. Last =0Ayear we did this in September. Early to mid mont h would be best and we can work =0Aaround weather and your schedules. The a irport manger said he would call the =0Alocal paper and they would send a r eporter out if we had a group show up. -=0A=0AThere is no reason we can't do both. Is anyone-interested.=0A=0ARick Neilsen=0ARedrive VW Powered MK IIIC-=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Chris Ambrose =0A wrote:=0A=0AChris Ambrose posted in KOL B.=0A> Chris Ambrose 4:02pm Aug 16 =0A>Ok Kolbers....I am thinking of havi ng a KOLB FLY IN GATHERING or what ever =0A>you're flying at the time the w eekend of the 17th,18th and 19th of AUGUST =0A>,2012...with Saturday being the BIG day...camping at the airport or there is a =0A>motel at end of the runway 34 . I was thinking hot dogs Friday night after =0A>arrival,a fly ou t for breakfast Saturday morning,dinner provided Saturday night =0A>and don uts and coffee Sunday morning before departure....is anybody =0A>interested ??? =0A>=0A> =0A>View Post on Facebook =B7 Edit Email Settings =B7 Reply t === =0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? From: "John Bickham" I would suggest: http://www.weldingtipsandtricks.com/index.html Look under "TIG" welding section and "Welding 4130" section. There is a lot of info here. A bit of advertising and products too. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349743#349743 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:21 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding From: "SS568" Excellent advice there Mr. Cowan. I have been doing farm welding for 40 plus years. I would not weld anything and then get into it and fly. With that said , do kit type planes such as a Kolb require welding by the purchaser of such kits? David d. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349759#349759 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:28:09 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding With that said , do kit type planes such as a Kolb require welding by the purchaser of such kits? David d. >>>>>>>>>>>>>. no and yes.. if you build to plans and need no modifications to meet your special needs,, the answer is no. as for my mkiii,,, i used different seats, and had to weld in some brackets to hold my seats, if you dont know how or are not comfortable welding,,,, find a good welder and pay him for the work you need... make sure he knows it is on thin wall tubing, and make sure he is comfortable, if not find someone different. i just went over 700 hours and all is well. boyd young mkiii utah ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:04 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Should you give up flying ? From: "Dennis Thate" planecrazzzy wrote: > We like Kolbs and jokes... > > Actually... we keep it pretty loose.... not much for Rules or whiners > . > . > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ > . > . > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/ > . > . > It was sad to pop in and see the same old "pile on" > > Oh well.... > That's why I've moved on... > > Haven't seen a post from John H in a while... > > > . > . What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pine Thanks for the invite planecrazy, ....every forum has the same inconsiderable issues. No big deal ! -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Faith is believing what you know ain't so. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349769#349769 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:03:44 AM PST US From: Phil Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? A big thanks to all the welding gurus. I appreciate every single post; all the pics and videos and answers. Fascinating stuff. I decided on the Victor Firepower Oxy/Acetylene kit and placed my order fro m WeldingSupply.com at what I believe are great prices (after much web surf ing): https://weldingsupply.securesites.com/cgi-bin/browsecatalogs.pl 0384-2551 - FirePower Heavy/Medium Duty $149.38 WES317 - 520 tank to 510 reg $9.99 WES324 - 200 tank to 510 reg $9.99 WES61 - 300 tank to 510 reg $4.95 This will allow hooking up the CGA-510 reg to most of the various Acetylene tanks available. Now I just need to find tanks to rent in my area. Phil H. --- On Tue, 8/16/11, racerjerry wrote: From: racerjerry Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? Stick welding and MIG is relatively easy and you can probably learn on your own trough practice before beginning a serious project.=C2- As a matter of fact, you might get much more out of a welding course if you already hav e experimented with the welding process.=C2- Of course, you may have to u n-learn some mistakes.=C2- Reading helps, especially in diagnosing poor w elds; but as they say: practice, practice and practice some more before wor king on anything important.=C2- Stick and MIG is kind of like walking a t ightrope and juggling with one hand at the same time.=C2- Gas welding adds another dimension.=C2- Got to push the =C3=A2=82=AC =CB=9Cbubble=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 around and occasionally feed rod =C3 =A2=82=AC=9C like walking the tightrope and juggling with two hand s. TIG welding adds a third dimension (foot pedal).=C2- Got to walk the tigh trope, juggle with two hands and a foot and HOP across the tightrope.=C2- Seriously, you need all of your gas welding skills down before learning TI G.=C2- A trade school should work well to see if you really want to inves t in the equipment.=C2- MIG vs TIG Another aspect is that MIG lays down welding wire rapidly.=C2- Too rapid for welding small thin 4130 tubing unless you know what you are dong.=C2- Often you can get a good looking weld bead but in reality the bead is just sitting on top with little penetration.=C2- MIG is great for stock car r oll bars and general welding, is fast, requires little clean-up, is a lot o f fun and requires much less skill than TIG.=C2- With MIG, I like to weav e a bit to get as much heat into the joint as I dare to insure penetration. =C2- MIG (&TIG) also has the advantage of being able to join thick materi als with thin (difficult with stick or gas welding).=C2- In trying to wel d small round tubing joints with MIG, you are going to have lots of stops a nd starts and that is where problems arise. Because of the extra skills, time and equipment investment required, it wou ld probably be better to gas weld your aircraft project. -------- Jerry King Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349638#349638 S WEB FORUMS - on Web Site - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:09:50 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? Do you mean to say that your wife does not allow you to enjoy cooking, not to mention the satisfaction derived from washing dishes? >. Not only that. I make a point not to deprive her of scrubbing the floors, cleaning the windows or carrying the logs in (and chopping them) Pat ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:25 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? For aircraft use you want a lightweight set. I have been using the same old Smith aircraft set for over 35 years. I do use industrial, large size regulators though. BB On 17, Aug 2011, at 2:01 PM, Phil wrote: > A big thanks to all the welding gurus. I appreciate every single post; all the pics and videos and answers. Fascinating stuff. > > I decided on the Victor Firepower Oxy/Acetylene kit and placed my order from WeldingSupply.com at what I believe are great prices (after much web surfing): > > https://weldingsupply.securesites.com/cgi-bin/browsecatalogs.pl > 0384-2551 - FirePower Heavy/Medium Duty $149.38 > WES317 - 520 tank to 510 reg $9.99 > WES324 - 200 tank to 510 reg $9.99 > WES61 - 300 tank to 510 reg $4.95 > > This will allow hooking up the CGA-510 reg to most of the various Acetylene tanks available. Now I just need to find tanks to rent in my area. > > Phil H. > > > --- On Tue, 8/16/11, racerjerry wrote: > > From: racerjerry > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, August 16, 2011, 10:56 AM > > > Stick welding and MIG is relatively easy and you can probably learn on your own trough practice before beginning a serious project. As a matter of fact, you might get much more out of a welding course if you already have experimented with the welding process. Of course, you may have to un-learn some mistakes. Reading helps, especially in diagnosing poor welds; but as they say: practice, practice and practice some more before working on anything important. Stick and MIG is kind of like walking a tightrope and juggling with one hand at the same time. > > Gas welding adds another dimension. Got to push the =98bubble =99 around and occasionally feed rod =93 like walking the tightrope and juggling with two hands. > > TIG welding adds a third dimension (foot pedal). Got to walk the tightrope, juggle with two hands and a foot and HOP across the tightrope. Seriously, you need all of your gas welding skills down before learning TIG. A trade school should work well to see if you really want to invest in the equipment. > > MIG vs TIG > Another aspect is that MIG lays down welding wire rapidly. Too rapid for welding small thin 4130 tubing unless you know what you are dong. Often you can get a good looking weld bead but in reality the bead is just sitting on top with little penetration. MIG is great for stock car roll bars and general welding, is fast, requires little clean-up, is a lot of fun and requires much less skill than TIG. With MIG, I like to weave a bit to get as much heat into the joint as I dare to insure penetration. MIG (&TIG) also has the advantage of being able to join thick materials with thin (difficult with stick or gas welding). In trying to weld small round tubing joints with MIG, you are going to have lots of stops and starts and that is where problems arise. > > Because of the extra skills, time and equipment investment required, it would probably be better to gas weld your aircraft project. > > -------- > Jerry King > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349638#349638http://www.matr onip; -Matt Draronics.com/contribution" ====== > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:25:52 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? From: "ces308" FYI.... I bought this mig welder from Harbor Freight this summer on sale for $179.00....the stand was $49.00 ...This welder welds beautiful ! You won't find anything this nice for this kind of money...tank and gages are extra... Welds with gas or with the flux core wire....just change wire and power leads....I did add a 25' cord too.... just something to consider.... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349779#349779 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2173_121.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2174_965.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:27 PM PST US From: "Beauford " Subject: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint Kolbers: Looking through the archives for clues about what folks are using on their mufflers/headers for the Rotax 2-strokes, there seems to be a split between the ceramic coating camp and those who sand-blast and repaint every couple of years. Have decided I will do the latter (again), but would like to get a better paint than I was able to find for the previous two cycles.. Both were rattle-can "hi-temp header" concoctions from auto parts stores. Neither lasted very long on the Rotax muffler/header. Has anyone come across a decent hi-temp paint that will stay on these parts long enough to be worth putting on them? Would prefer quart cans, but will do spray cans if necessary. Thankee fer yer time. Rusty, cheap 'ol beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:24:03 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? - Chris- Nice knowing that brand does work.- A couple of friends- years ago- bought the cheap Chinese angle grinders.- They got 10 minutes out o f them, never to run again.- I have the Harbor Freight electronic helmet. - Utterly reliable, and $39 on sale.- The electronic helmet is great fo r MIG work. -With the Chinese stuff, I guess you have to spec it out exac tly for them to make it.- otherwise, it will just look like the tool and not work like it. - ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan --- On Wed, 8/17/11, ces308 wrote: From: ces308 Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Welding? FYI.... I bought this mig welder from Harbor Freight this summer on sale for $179.0 0....the stand was $49.00 ...This welder welds beautiful- ! You won't fin d anything this nice for this kind of money...tank and gages are extra... Welds with gas or with the flux core wire....just change wire and power lea ds....I did add a 25' cord too.... just something to consider.... chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru N327CS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349779#349779 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2173_121.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2174_965.jpg le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint I used the Hi temp stove flat black paint. I think the key is stove not header. I believe that it is supposed to be good to 13 to 1400 degrees. Of course one must allow windage for elderly memory of a 100 or so degrees. I put it on my HKS muffler 135 hours ago and I do not see any problems as yet. My EGTS are best at 1330 degrees. Its cheap enough to do every year. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: Beauford To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:00 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint Kolbers: Looking through the archives for clues about what folks are using on their mufflers/headers for the Rotax 2-strokes, there seems to be a split between the ceramic coating camp and those who sand-blast and repaint every couple of years. Have decided I will do the latter (again), but would like to get a better paint than I was able to find for the previous two cycles.. Both were rattle-can "hi-temp header" concoctions from auto parts stores. Neither lasted very long on the Rotax muffler/header. Has anyone come across a decent hi-temp paint that will stay on these parts long enough to be worth putting on them? Would prefer quart cans, but will do spray cans if necessary. Thankee fer yer time. Rusty, cheap 'ol beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:18:27 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures From: "kolbaircraft" Well I don't know what you mean still . The Kolbra is one well thought of machine. I have so many folks wanting to build the Kolbra 2 place aircraft. Almost all of the Kolbras have won Grand Champion awards at Oshkosh. To each his own I guess. I sure have never been told the Kolbra looks cobbled up. What ever you mean. I could care less. Travis Kolb CO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349804#349804 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:51:59 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint I agree I used the flat black barbecue paint each spring and one can lasted about 5 years=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisab led from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: Larry Cottrell =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5 :51 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint=0A=0A=0A =0AI used the Hi temp stove flat black paint. I think the key =0Ais stove not header. I believe that it is supposed to be good to =C2-13 to =0A1400 degrees. O f course one must allow windage for elderly memory of a 100 or so =0Adegree s. I put it on my HKS muffler 135 hours ago and I do not see =0Aany=C2-pr oblems as yet. My EGTS are best at 1330 degrees. Its cheap enough to =0Ado every year. =0ALarry =0A=C2- =0ANote: If you forward this email, please d elete the forwarding history, =0Awhich includes my email address. =0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: Beauford =0A>To: kolb-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 2:00 PM =0A>Subject: Kolb-List: Muf fler & Header paint =0A>=0A> =0A>Kolbers: =0A>=C2- =0A>Looking through the archives for clues about what folks are using on their mufflers/header s for the Rotax =0A>2-strokes, there seems to be a split between the ceram ic coating camp and those who sand-blast =0A>and repaint every couple of years. =0A>=C2- =0A>Have decided I will do the latter (again), but would like to get a better paint than I was able to find for =0A>the previous two cycles..=C2-=C2- Both were rattle-can =9Chi-temp header =9D concoctions from auto parts stores.=C2- Neither =0A>lasted very lon g on the Rotax muffler/header. =0A>=C2- =0A>Has anyone come across a dec ent hi-temp paint that will stay on these parts long enough to be worth pu tting on them? =0A>Would prefer quart cans, but will do spray cans if nece ssary. =0A>=C2- =0A>Thankee fer yer time. =C2- =0A>=C2- =0A>Rusty, c heap =98ol beauford =0A>FF-076 =0A>Brandon, FL=0A>href="http://www .matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb -List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href ="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A_ -======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:23 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures Travis, Sorry if I insulted you, you-should know how much I believe in Ko lbs ! I just dont care for the lines of a Kolbra only a matter of taste the Kolbra probly flys as wonderful as all Kolbs!I certanlly dont want to star t a pissing contest- !! your friend Chris=0A=0A=0AChris Davis=0AKXP 503 4 92 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly=0A=0AFrom: kol baircraft =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.co m=0ASent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:16 PM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: I li upport@tnkolbaircraft.com>=0A=0AWell I don't know what you mean still . The Kolbra is one well thought of machine.=0AI have so many folks wanting to b uild the Kolbra 2 place aircraft.=0AAlmost all of the Kolbras have won Gran d Champion awards at Oshkosh.=0ATo each his own I guess. I sure have never been told the Kolbra looks cobbled up. What ever you mean. I could care les s.=0A=0ATravis=0AKolb CO=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Aht tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349804#349804=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =============== ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:46 PM PST US From: Gary Thacker Subject: RE: Kolb-List: A day of fun, 8.11.11 Your very welcome Dave. Sorry they really aren't great videos but I think everyone can get the idea. And thank you for your help telling me of possi ble hanger space at your field. Development closed my field down and I hav e to move. Anyway I had a great time that day also. Looks like we may be seeing quite a bit of each other. LOL I hope. Gary Souderton=2C Pa. From: undoctor@ptd.net Subject: Re: Kolb-List: A day of fun=2C 8.11.11 Gosh! Just checked the link and found it just took me to the landing video. You can see all the pix and vids that Gary took if you go to: http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/thumbs47/Daves%20Field/ There=2C that's better. Enjoy your day=3B mine's another beaut so I'll be riding the FlagFly around again today. Dave Kulp Bethlehem=2C PA FireFly 11DMK Here's the link to the pix and videos Gary took. Thanks=2C Gary!!! Dave Kulp Bethlehem=2C PA FireFly 11DMK http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg273/thumbs47/Daves%20Field/?acti on=view¤t=DSCN0594.mp4 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:40:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: I like pictures From: "kolbaircraft" Well I sure don't either. All I know is the Kolbra serves as a 2 place trainer that is well thought of all around the world. The Kolbra helps us to stay alive and be there for everyone when we are needed. I sure respect your opinion and every one else. Please just get that Fire Fly in the Air. Travis Kolb CO. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349814#349814 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:41:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Should you give up flying ? From: russ kinne Dennis Glad to see you come back to "visit" occasionally. John H posted on 8/14, 7/10 and 5/11. He's been driving some of is big trips. Fair winds, Russ K On Aug 17, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > > > planecrazzzy wrote: >> We like Kolbs and jokes... >> >> Actually... we keep it pretty loose.... not much for Rules or whiners >> . >> . >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ >> . >> . >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/ >> . >> . >> It was sad to pop in and see the same old "pile on" >> >> Oh well.... >> That's why I've moved on... >> >> Haven't seen a post from John H in a while... >> >> >> . >> . > > > > > What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pine > > Thanks for the invite planecrazy, ....every forum has the same inconsiderable issues. No big deal ! > > -------- > Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern > > Faith is believing what you know ain't so. > Mark Twain > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349769#349769 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Should you give up flying ? From: russ kinne List, once again, my apologies. I told my confuser to "reply" to Dennis' email, and instead it sent it to the List. It knows who's boss. Russ K On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:38 PM, russ kinne wrote: > > Dennis > Glad to see you come back to "visit" occasionally. > John H posted on 8/14, 7/10 and 5/11. He's been driving some of is big trips. > Fair winds, > Russ K > > > On Aug 17, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Dennis Thate wrote: > >> >> >> planecrazzzy wrote: >>> We like Kolbs and jokes... >>> >>> Actually... we keep it pretty loose.... not much for Rules or whiners >>> . >>> . >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ >>> . >>> . >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kolb_Firestar/ >>> . >>> . >>> It was sad to pop in and see the same old "pile on" >>> >>> Oh well.... >>> That's why I've moved on... >>> >>> Haven't seen a post from John H in a while... >>> >>> >>> . >>> . >> >> >> >> >> What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal. Albert Pine >> >> Thanks for the invite planecrazy, ....every forum has the same inconsiderable issues. No big deal ! >> >> -------- >> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern >> >> Faith is believing what you know ain't so. >> Mark Twain >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349769#349769 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:34 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KOLB Gathering .... I second that I typed in his airport name into Google and realized that its another place too far away from Arizona. Seems like all the action is out on the east coast or thereabout's give or take a few Longitudes. Gotta get to Florida seems like there is a lot of flying fun in that part of the world. Are there any Kolbers around the Miami area give or take some miles? Ron @ KFHU ------------------------------------ ---- russ kinne wrote: ============ Is this Michigan? would be good to know -- On Aug 16, 2011, at 4:21 PM, ces308 wrote: > > Ok Kolbers....I am thinking of having a KOLB FLY IN GATHERING or what ever you're flying at the time the weekend of the 17th,18th and 19th of AUGUST ,2012...with Saturday being the BIG day...camping at the airport or there is a motel at end of the runway 34 . I was thinking hot dogs Friday night after arrival,a fly out for breakfast Saturday morning,dinner provided Saturday night and donuts and coffee Sunday morning before departure....is anybody interested??? > > This would be at Houghton Lake State Airport , 5Y2...2750 feet sod runway. > > chris ambrose > M3X/Jabiru 210.00 hrs > N327CS > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349677#349677 > > > > > > > > > > -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:50 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? Hey Pat does your wife have a sister? I may be interested in taking her off your hands if she hangs around your house and on your dime (quids), hard to find good broads in Arizona you know. Ron @ KFHU ==================== ---- Pat Ladd wrote: ============ Do you mean to say that your wife does not allow you to enjoy cooking, not to mention the satisfaction derived from washing dishes? >. Not only that. I make a point not to deprive her of scrubbing the floors, cleaning the windows or carrying the logs in (and chopping them) Pat -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:27:19 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint In a message dated 8/17/2011 3:04:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, beauford173@verizon.net writes: Kolbers: Looking through the archives for clues about what folks are using on their mufflers/headers for the Rotax 2-strokes, there seems to be a split between the ceramic coating camp and those who sand-blast and repaint every couple of years. Have decided I will do the latter (again), but would like to get a better paint than I was able to find for the previous two cycles.. Both were rattle-can =9Chi-temp header =9D concoctions from auto parts stores. Neither lasted very long on the Rotax muffler/header. Has anyone come across a decent hi-temp paint that will stay on these parts long enough to be worth putting on them? Would prefer quart cans, but will do spray cans if necessary. Thankee fer yer time. Rusty, cheap =98ol beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:46 PM PST US From: DAquaNut@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Muffler & Header paint Bro. Beauford, The best I have found is VHT very high temperature Flame Proof Header paint 1300*---- 2000*. Just have to look through the local auto supply stores til you find it. Ed Diebel FF 62 In a message dated 8/17/2011 3:04:38 P.M. 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