---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/18/11: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:44 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Pat Ladd) 2. 04:12 AM - Re: KOLB Gathering .... (Dana Hague) 3. 04:17 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (william sullivan) 4. 05:38 AM - Re: Muffler & Header paint (Richard Pike) 5. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Ron @ KFHU) 6. 07:28 AM - Re: KOLB Gathering .... (Ron @ KFHU) 7. 07:34 AM - Re: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? (Ron @ KFHU) 8. 08:47 AM - Oil and fuel (thumbs) 9. 09:06 AM - Re: Oil and fuel (Arksey@aol.com) 10. 09:35 AM - Oil and fuel (Lanny Fetterman) 11. 10:27 AM - Re: Oil and fuel (Ron @ KFHU) 12. 11:22 AM - Re: Oil and fuel (HShack@aol.com) 13. 11:22 AM - Re: Oil and fuel (Dennis Thate) 14. 11:36 AM - Firefly for sale (Gene Ledbetter) 15. 01:04 PM - Re: Oil and fuel (Dana Hague) 16. 03:20 PM - Pa plane crash update (Lanny Fetterman) 17. 03:44 PM - Re: Oil and fuel (Richard Girard) 18. 04:53 PM - AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) (Eugene Zimmerman) 19. 05:25 PM - Re: Oil and fuel (Richard Pike) 20. 05:30 PM - SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question (Thumper) 21. 05:31 PM - video (Larry Cottrell) 22. 05:31 PM - Pilot weight for/aft CofG question (Ger320) 23. 05:44 PM - Re: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) (Bob) 24. 06:12 PM - Re: Oil and fuel (thumbs) 25. 06:34 PM - SE Pa. trailering help (thumbs) 26. 06:44 PM - Re: Re: Oil and fuel (Dana Hague) 27. 06:56 PM - Re: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) (Dennis Thate) 28. 07:32 PM - Re: SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question (Michael Welch) 29. 07:42 PM - Re: SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question (Thumper) 30. 08:22 PM - Re: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) (Ron @ KFHU) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:38 AM PST US From: "Pat Ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? Hey Pat does your wife have a sister? Hi Ron, Yeah she does but I can`t let her go. Who would feed the stock and drive the mule? Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:45 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KOLB Gathering .... At 10:48 PM 8/17/2011, Ron @ KFHU wrote: >Seems like all the action is out on the east coast or thereabout's give or >take a few Longitudes. > Gotta get to Florida seems like there is a lot of flying fun in that > part of the world. Are there any Kolbers around the Miami area give or > take some miles? Hah! I'm on the east coast (CT) and my complaint is that all the fly-ins are out west! -Dana -- Why are there Interstate highways in Hawaii? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:18 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? - Ron- Where are you in Arizona?- - ------------------------- --------- Bill Sullivan do not archive - ------------------------- --------------- --- On Wed, 8/17/11, Ron @ KFHU wrote: From: Ron @ KFHU Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? Hey Pat does your wife have a sister? I may be interested in taking her off your hands if she hangs around your house and on your dime (quids), hard t o find good broads in Arizona you know. Ron @ KFHU ==================== ---- Pat Ladd wrote: ============ Do you mean to say that your wife does not allow you to enjoy cooking, not to mention the satisfaction derived from washing dishes? >. Not only that. I make a point not to deprive her of scrubbing the floors, c leaning the windows or carrying the logs in (and chopping them) Pat -- kugelair.com le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:39 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Muffler & Header paint From: "Richard Pike" I use John Deere hi-temp muffler paint and it is better than some, but they are real proud of it, it's pricey. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) -------- Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349845#349845 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:16 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? You got a point there, it was a long shot. Ron @ KFHU ================ ---- Pat Ladd wrote: ============ Hey Pat does your wife have a sister? Hi Ron, Yeah she does but I can`t let her go. Who would feed the stock and drive the mule? Cheers Pat -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:40 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: KOLB Gathering .... Okay I know what it is; it's the grass is greener syndrome. Ron @ KFHU ---- Dana Hague wrote: ============ At 10:48 PM 8/17/2011, Ron @ KFHU wrote: >Seems like all the action is out on the east coast or thereabout's give or >take a few Longitudes. > Gotta get to Florida seems like there is a lot of flying fun in that > part of the world. Are there any Kolbers around the Miami area give or > take some miles? Hah! I'm on the east coast (CT) and my complaint is that all the fly-ins are out west! -Dana -- Why are there Interstate highways in Hawaii? -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:05 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? I am in ( KFHU) Fort Huachuca / Sierra vista. Ron @ KFHU =============== ---- william sullivan wrote: ============ Ron- Where are you in Arizona? Bill Sullivan do not archive --- On Wed, 8/17/11, Ron @ KFHU wrote: From: Ron @ KFHU Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Prop spinner advantages on a pusher ??? Hey Pat does your wife have a sister? I may be interested in taking her off your hands if she hangs around your house and on your dime (quids), hard to find good broads in Arizona you know. Ron @ KFHU ==================== ---- Pat Ladd wrote: ============ Do you mean to say that your wife does not allow you to enjoy cooking, not to mention the satisfaction derived from washing dishes? >. Not only that. I make a point not to deprive her of scrubbing the floors, cleaning the windows or carrying the logs in (and chopping them) Pat -- kugelair.com le, List Admin. -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:57 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel From: "thumbs" I posted this on the Rotax forum but didn't get a response. Pretty sure I will here though. LOL I have a 97(I think) 503 dual carb Rotax oil injected with about 50 hr on it. As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew. What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still available? Also what fuel are your guys using? Are you guys using premium pump gas? Can you get gas without ethanol in it or is that ok anyway? I read somewhere that one of the causes of engine outs is ethanol in the fuel. Is this right? thanks for the help -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349856#349856 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:42 AM PST US From: Arksey@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel Garry, I also have a Rotax 503....i use pennsoil air cooled 2cycle oil and 87 octane auto gas....have had no problems and I burn a lot of it...so I dont let the gas get old...best thing is to fly often....jim swan Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825 In a message dated 8/18/2011 11:48:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gbthacker@hotmail.com writes: --> Kolb-List message posted by: "thumbs" I posted this on the Rotax forum but didn't get a response. Pretty sure I will here though. LOL I have a 97(I think) 503 dual carb Rotax oil injected with about 50 hr on it. As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew. What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still available -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349856#349856 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:10 AM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel Gary, I won`t address what the best oil and fuel combination is, because I don`t know that answer. I will tell you what I use. Yes, you can still buy Pennzoil air cooled oil, which is what I use. It is only sold in 8 oz bottles now, where as it was available in 16 oz bottles in the past. I use 92 octane fuel from a local gas station. It does contain 10% ethanol. So far so good. I did put a gascolator in my fuel system so I could check for water in my fuel tanks. So far I have never found any water due to separation in my fuel. I also add marine fuel stabilizer to all my fuel. Some people think it is only snake oil, but it seems to work for me. For the price, I figure why not. On another note, at the end of each flying season I drain all the fuel out of my tanks and use it in my weed whips and chain saws. (50:1 as I had to remove my oil injector to install my electric starter) I just finished that left over fuel yesterday. It was about eight months old and still smelled fresh and my small two strokes ran fine. Is that due to the stabilizer I add? I like to think so. One more note. Last night there was an experimental airplane crash near Scranton Pa. about 60 miles from where I live. The private pilot was on his first flight in what looked like a Drifter. Witnesses said they heard the engine running rough then quit, then restart. The plane went down in a wooded area, the pilot was taken to the hospital where he passed away. Everyone fly safely out there, including myself. http://pahomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=196107 Lanny N598LF FSII Numidia Pa. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:27:31 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel I flew a Cuyana 430 not long ago I used premium unleaded which had 10% ethanol, and also used syntec 2 cycle oil from Walmart. Motor was smooth and nice. I have also used it in my 2 cycle Yamaha motorcycle, the synthetic stuff was always much better than the regular mineral oil types. I think the most important thing is the mix ratio, make sure you are never too lean in oil ratio. I in fact I always run it a bit rich in terms oil. I think it was asking for 50/1 I was using 40/1 ratio. Have no idea what the EGT's looked like as I had no instruments. As for the ethanol my unscientific observation is that it did nothing bad, and probably made the motor run a bit cooler as it has less oomph per volume and a higher octane. Ron @ KFHU =========== ---- thumbs wrote: ============ I posted this on the Rotax forum but didn't get a response. Pretty sure I will here though. LOL I have a 97(I think) 503 dual carb Rotax oil injected with about 50 hr on it. As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew. What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still available? Also what fuel are your guys using? Are you guys using premium pump gas? Can you get gas without ethanol in it or is that ok anyway? I read somewhere that one of the causes of engine outs is ethanol in the fuel. Is this right? thanks for the help -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349856#349856 -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:20 AM PST US From: HShack@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel Pennsoil is good- I used it for two years, but IMO the very best is Citgo Sea & Snow for 2 stroke air cooled. Hard to get here in SC but worth the trouble. On a 503, you are wasting your money if you use premium gas [unless you have to buy premium to get ethanol-free]. 87 octane is fine; been using it for over 500 hrs. Yes, a 503 will run fine with ethanol in the gas, but it's effects are insidious. Over time, problems develope. If you must use it, I suggest you take measures as suggested on this forum. Howard Shackleford FS II SC In a message dated 8/18/2011 11:48:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gbthacker@hotmail.com writes: As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew. What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still available? Also what fuel are your guys using? Are you guys using premium pump gas? Can you get gas without ethanol in it or is that ok anyway? I read somewhere that one of the causes of engine outs is ethanol in the fuel. Is this right? ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:57 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Oil and fuel From: "Dennis Thate" My Rotax 503 has always been on ; California Power Systems CPS AV-2 Blend -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Faith is believing what you know ain't so. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349871#349871 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:35 AM PST US From: Gene Ledbetter Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly for sale I just put my firefly on Barnstormers. Turned 81 this year and just had my first engine out caused by the dumb pilot. Landed easily in a newly planted corn field. So I don't think I can fly safely anymore and it's time for it to go. It's been a grand 11 years. So if you know of someone who needs a Brian Milburn built Firefly, direct them to my Barnstormers ad. 25' Haulmark Trailer is included. Gene ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel From: Dana Hague Adding more oil than the manufacturer specifies is actually bad (Cuyuna specified 40:1 BTW so you were fine). More oil = less fuel/air ratio so the engine is actually running lean... which as we all know is bad. Kart racers actually use this to tune their engines when there's no time for a jet change. Of course more oil also means more chance of plug fouling. I still use the Pennzoil "2 stroke outdoor" (that's what they call it now), but they recently came out with a new "2 stroke aircraft" oil (which may be the same thing in a bigger bottle and with a bigger price). Whatever you use, it should be marked "API TC" (as Rotax specifies) and not "TC-W3" which is a marine spec, for oils optimized for the cooler running temperatures of a marine engine. -Dana "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: I flew a Cuyana 430 not long ago I used premium unleaded which had 10% ethanol, and also used syntec 2 cycle oil from Walmart. Motor was smooth and nice. I have also used it in my 2 cycle Yamaha motorcycle, the synthetic stuff was always much better than the regular mineral oil types. I think the most important thing is the mix ratio, make sure you are never too lean in oil ratio. I in fact I always run it a bit rich in terms oil. I think it was asking for 50/1 I was using 40/1 ratio. Have no idea what the EGT's looked like as I had no instruments. As for the ethanol my unscientific observation is that it did nothing bad, and probably made the motor run a bit cooler as it has less oomph per volume and a higher octane. Ron @ KFHU =========== ---- thumbs wrote: ============ I posted this on the Rotax forum but didn't get a response. Pretty sure I will here though. LOL I have a 97(I think) 503 dual carb Rotax oil injected with about 50 hr on it. As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew. What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still available? Also what fuel are your guys using? Are you guys using premium pump gas? Can you get gas without ethanol in it or is that ok anyway? I read somewhere that one of the causes of engine outs is ethanol in the fuel. Is this right? thanks for the help -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349856#349856 -- kugelair.com _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:45 PM PST US From: Lanny Fetterman Subject: Kolb-List: Pa plane crash update Last night they said "it was an airplane like this" and showed the picture of a Drifter. Tonight they had actual crash photos and it looks like a Challenger to me. Lanny FSII http://pahomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=196207 Do not archive ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:44:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Oil and fuel From: Richard Girard As I published a while back after talking to a Shell tech rep, Pennzoil air cooled (Shell owns the Pennzoil brand) is not being produced anymore. The supply that is out there in the supply chain is all there is. The new Shell Two Stroke has Rotax written all over it. Not much doubt about whether its an approved oil. The big thing about API-TC and TC-W3 is that they are not compatible in injection systems. Put together they congeal. Rick Girard On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Dana Hague wrote: > Adding more oil than the manufacturer specifies is actually bad (Cuyuna > specified 40:1 BTW so you were fine). More oil = less fuel/air ratio so the > engine is actually running lean... which as we all know is bad. Kart race rs > actually use this to tune their engines when there's no time for a jet > change. > > Of course more oil also means more chance of plug fouling. > > I still use the Pennzoil "2 stroke outdoor" (that's what they call it now ), > but they recently came out with a new "2 stroke aircraft" oil (which may be > the same thing in a bigger bottle and with a bigger price). > > Whatever you use, it should be marked "API TC" (as Rotax specifies) and n ot > "TC-W3" which is a marine spec, for oils optimized for the cooler running > temperatures of a marine engine. > > -Dana > > "Ron @ KFHU" wrote: > >> >> I flew a Cuyana 430 not long ago I used premium unleaded which had 10% e thanol, and also used syntec 2 cycle oil from Walmart. Motor was smooth and nice. >> >> I have also used it in my 2 cycle Yamaha motorcycle, the synthetic stuff was always much better than the regular mineral oil types. I think the mos t important thing is the mix ratio, make sure you are never too lean in oil ratio. I in fact I always run it a bit rich in terms oil. I think it was a sking for 50/1 I was using 40/1 ratio. Have no idea what the EGT's looked l ike as I had no instruments. As for the ethanol my unscientific observation is that it did nothing bad, and probably made the motor run a bit cooler a s it has less oomph per volume and a higher octane. >> Ron @ KFHU >> >> =========== >> ---- thumbs >> wrote: >> >> ============ >> >> I posted this on the Rotax forum but didn't get a response. Pretty sure I will here though. LOL >> >> I have a 97(I think) 503 dual carb Rotax oil injected with about 50 hr o n it. As I remember Pennsoil two stroke was the oil to use when I last flew . What are you guys using now? Is it still the best and is it still availab le? >> >> >> Also what fuel are your guys using? Are you guys using premium pump gas? Can you get gas without ethanol in it or is that ok anyway? >> I read somewhere that one of the causes of engine outs is ethanol in the fuel. Is this right? >> >> thanks for the help >> >> -------- >> Gary >> Souderton, Pa. >> Firestar II >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> * >> =========== >> =========== =========== =========== >> >> * >> >> -- Zulu Delta Mk IIIC Thanks, Homer GBYM It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy. - Groucho Marx ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:34 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Kolb-List: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) AIR SHOW DISASTER Amazing photos show great detail.=A8=A8The pilot at low level had no control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the airshow and slams into four buildings.=A8=A8O ne can only imagine the horror of the occupants inside those buildings. Graphic image! ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:25:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Oil and fuel From: "Richard Pike" I tried Pennzoil for one season, worked great, but made a bigger mess on the airplane than Phillips Injex, so I went back to that. Been using Injex since 1983, both as pre-mix and as injected with no problems. If you cannot get Pennzoil, I would suggest Phillips Injex. Google it and see what the jet ski and snowmobile guys have to say about it as it is still readily available and the price is not out the roof. I try to avoid ethanol gas as it dissolves my epoxy gas tanks. If the feds and their subsidies (call your congressman and complain!) eventually end up putting ethanol in all our gas and I cannot get ethanol free gas any longer, then I will have to redo my gas tanks. I have personally seen premix with ethanol do weird things and cause problems. It is apparently ok to use up to 10% ethanol when you are running injected oil, but I would never use ethanol gas and premix. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) -------- Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349901#349901 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question From: "Thumper" I did not get the build manual when purchasing my Mark IIIC. Can someone send me a copy of theirs or at least a copy of the page that tells the weight and balance point in inches from the leading edge and the acceptable range? I previously had an Ultrastar and then a Firestar and if I remember right the IDEAL CG point in inches was 18" and the range was 12" to 23"??? What is it on the Mark III???? I am preparing my documents for the check ride. I am guessing my DPE will want to have something to compare my actual figures to. Thank You Dennis Long Oakland Tennessee dlong1957@yahoo.com -------- Dennis Long Oakland TN 1990 Kolb Firestar KX 80+ hours since June Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349902#349902 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:18 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: video http://vimeo.com/27878704 I wanted to check the Alvord for its water level. I have never seen it wet this time of the year. I put the camera back on the pitot tube since I was getting more wave and vibration than I though I should. Perhaps I didn't tighten it down enough, since it was loose when I got home. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Pilot weight for/aft CofG question From: "Ger320" What are the upper and lower PILOT weight limits on a Firestar or a Firefly? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349903#349903 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:53 PM PST US From: "Bob" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) OH ........THE HUMANITY.................... From: Eugene Zimmerman Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: Kolb-List: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) AIR SHOW DISASTER Amazing photos show great detail.=A8=A8The pilot at low level had no control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the airshow and slams into four buildings.=A8=A8One can only imagine the horror of the occupants inside those buildings. Graphic image! ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Oil and fuel From: "thumbs" Thanks for all the help guys. I have been out of the loop for a few years. I am trying to get back into the air and have a lot of questions. First of all where can I get ethanol free gas? Is there a brand or a grade that is ethanol free? The next question is, as I understand it from the posts, I can use Pennsoil new 2 stroke oil in my oil injected engine using pump gas with ethanol. The possible problem comes if you premix right? Since the plane has been sitting for a while one of the things I want to do is replace the fuel lines, filter and prime bulb. I measured the od of the fuel line and it's 3/8". Can I use any fuel line? I was thinking the blue plastic stuff. I am guessing that would be fine. If not what should I use? I would also like to replace the "equalizer" tube on the carbs. Maybe not the right term but it is the tube that has the small hole in the bottom and runs from one side of the carb to the other. Is that a special tube or can I use any 1/8"od fuel line and put a small hole in the bottom? I plan to drain the oil res. and put in new oil. Since the engine not run for a while would it be smart to premix a gallon or so of fuel even with the oil injection system in operation just to make sure the first few minutes of running has plenty of oil at the beginning? I know to much oil is a no no but I only wanted to use the premix and oil injection for the first 5 or 10 minutes of running on the ground what do you guys think? thanks again for the help -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349913#349913 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: SE Pa. trailering help From: "thumbs" I need to move my Firestar II from Royersford Pa. to Nazareth Pa. My mapping program says it's about 58 miles. Since the plane has not flown for a couple of years I would rather trailer it there than to fly it. Can anyone loan or rent a trailer to me so I can move the Firestar? I would have no problem with you moving it with me? I would be happy to work out some kind of payment for your time and equipment. I have a truck if that helps. My time frame is flexable. It doesn't have to be moved immediately. The field I have been using is no longer available due to development. Thanks for the help I appreciate it. -------- Gary Souderton, Pa. Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349914#349914 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:47 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Oil and fuel At 08:23 PM 8/18/2011, Richard Pike wrote: >I have personally seen premix with ethanol do weird things and cause >problems. It is apparently ok to use up to 10% ethanol when you are >running injected oil, but I would never use ethanol gas and premix. Not that ethanol is a good thing (in gasoline, the Scots do wonderful things with it:)), but I've been forced to run ethanol containing gas, premixed, for 10 years now... 5 years in my Kolb (Cuyuna engine) and 10 years in my PPGs. I've never had an internal engine failure of any kind (carb troubles and ignition problems, yes) in that time... and I've run premix stored (in sealed containers!) for 3 months and more. The biggest problem with ethanol (don't get me started on the corrupt politics involved!) is the effect on non metallic parts. Fiberglass fuel tanks made with polyester resin are a big problem. Rubber parts, (carburetor and fuel pump parts, fuel lines, and engine seals) can also be a problem... though most fuel system parts are alcohol resistant (to an extent) nowadays. The blue fuel line (to answer thumbs' question) holds up reasonably well, but replace it every two years at the most. -Dana -- Whiplash injuries: Research has shown that the rate of return to work was five times greater amongst those who did not see a lawyer compared with those who did. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:56:21 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) From: "Dennis Thate" You're out on thin ice on this post ! [Laughing] [Wink] -------- Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern Faith is believing what you know ain't so. Mark Twain Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349917#349917 ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question From: Michael Welch Hey Dennis, Sounds like you and your new MkIII are getting along pretty good. Regarding your W & B question; =46rom my "TwinStar MkIII (March 1998 Ed.) (usually referred to as "C"), page 68 Weight & Balance, it says... CG should fall BETWEEN 25% TO 35% of the wing cord, otherwise known as 16.5" to 23.1" from the leading edge. Just for grins, it mentions that the front mounting tab for the wings are 18" back from the leading edge. If you want I could email you a really simple-to-use W & B spreadsheet that Boyd Young has shared with this list. All you do is plug in a few easy numbers that you measured, and presto..it does the cypherin'. Real nifty program. I did a couple of various weights for pilot's and fuel, etc. Hope this helps. Mike Welch MkIII N212MN On Aug 18, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Thumper wrote: > > I did not get the build manual when purchasing my Mark IIIC. Can someone send me a copy of theirs or at least a copy of the page that tells the weight and balance point in inches from the leading edge and the acceptable range? I previously had an Ultrastar and then a Firestar and if I remember right the IDEAL CG point in inches was 18" and the range was 12" to 23"??? What is it on the Mark III???? I am preparing my documents for the check ride. I am guessing my DPE will want to have something to compare my actual figures to. > Thank You > Dennis Long > Oakland > Tennessee > dlong1957@yahoo.com > > -------- > Dennis Long > Oakland TN > 1990 Kolb Firestar KX > 80+ hours since June > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:24 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: SIMPLE Weight and Balance Question From: "Thumper" Thanks Mike. I have several W&B spreadsheets that work well. I believe I have the one you suggested. Thanks for the dimensional verification, that is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I am getting along very well with the Mark III, I flew it to Oshkosh and back. First time flying there and it was great. I hope to see yours in the air soon. Dennis -------- Dennis Long Oakland TN 2001 Kolb Mark IIIC 110+ hours since March 2011 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=349922#349922 ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: AIR SHOW DISASTER ( not Kolb related ) Yup I agree it was a crapy flight Ron @ KFHU ==================== ---- Eugene Zimmerman wrote: ============ AIR SHOW DISASTER Amazing photos show great detail.The pilot at low level had no control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the airshow and slams into four buildings.One can only imagine the horror of the occupants inside those buildings. 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