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1. 02:20 AM - Re: Tube steel legs for Kolb MK3 Classic (robhock)
2. 05:36 AM - Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa (Dennis Thate)
3. 05:43 AM - Re: Re: Tube steel legs for Kolb MK3 Classic (End User)
4. 09:17 AM - Shimming...save on wear & tear (Dennis Thate)
5. 10:16 AM - tailspring? (tkben002)
6. 10:42 AM - Re: tailspring? (william sullivan)
7. 10:51 AM - Re: tailspring? (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
8. 11:02 AM - Re: tailspring? (tkben002)
9. 11:22 AM - Re: Re: tailspring? (b young)
10. 11:31 AM - Re: tailspring? (End User)
11. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: tailspring? (Thom Riddle)
12. 12:35 PM - Re: tailspring? (Richard Girard)
13. 01:22 PM - Re: tailspring? (tkben002)
14. 01:55 PM - Re: Re: tailspring? (Thom Riddle)
15. 02:09 PM - Re: Re: tailspring? (Gene Ledbetter)
16. 02:09 PM - Re: tailspring? (George Alexander)
17. 02:11 PM - Re: Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa (Dana Hague)
18. 05:25 PM - Re: Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa (Dennis Thate)
19. 08:53 PM - 2/27/11 Glencoe Minnesota fly-in (Ralph B)
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Subject: | Re: Tube steel legs for Kolb MK3 Classic |
Hi Folks. Just joined this site but like others here I'm interested in getting
steel legs for my Kolb Twinstar Mk3. Where do I get them though? I'm in the UK
so would prefer to get them locally but resigned to have to order them from the
States.
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Subject: | Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa |
WHAT A PITY KULULA DOESN'T FLY INTERNATIONALLY - WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEM IF
ONLY FOR THEIR HUMOUR - SO TYPICALLY SOUTH AFRICAN.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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Subject: | Re: Tube steel legs for Kolb MK3 Classic |
Order them straight from Kolb. Not cheap but you will love them.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
On Aug 27, 2011, at 5:18 AM, robhock wrote:
> <robhocking@robhocking.karoo.co.uk>
>
> Hi Folks. Just joined this site but like others here I'm interested
> in getting steel legs for my Kolb Twinstar Mk3. Where do I get them
> though? I'm in the UK so would prefer to get them locally but
> resigned to have to order them from the States.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350724#350724
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Subject: | Shimming...save on wear & tear |
How many set up their wings, shim them with aircraft bolts and washers and leave
them permanently set up, versus using 'quick release' clevis & pins.
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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My tailspring is a little bent, atleast I think it is. When I look at pictures
of other peoples planes the tailsprings look straight. Mine has a nice little
curve to it. My question is, can I remove it, cut it off when it is bent, re
insert it and have an overall shorter tailspring, or should I just call Travis
and buy a new one, or are there any alternatives?
thanks,
Travis Bennett
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- What happens if you take the weight off it for a while?- What model K
olb?- Mine is a fiberglass rod, and I think they would take a "set".
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------------- Bill Sullivan
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From: tkben002 <tkben002@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: tailspring?
My tailspring is a little bent, atleast I think it is.- When I look at pi
ctures of other peoples planes the tailsprings look straight.- Mine has a
nice little curve to it.- My question is, can I remove it, cut it off wh
en it is bent, re insert it and have an overall shorter tailspring, or shou
ld I just call Travis and buy a new one, or are there any alternatives?
thanks,
Travis Bennett
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le, List Admin.
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Pick up the back of your airplane and look to see if it is bent if not cu
t it in half and you wont have one that looks bent I always used half of
what they send you
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: tkben002 <tkben002@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 1:13 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: tailspring?
My tailspring is a little bent, atleast I think it is. When I look at pic
tures
f other peoples planes the tailsprings look straight. Mine has a nice lit
tle
urve to it. My question is, can I remove it, cut it off when it is bent,
re
nsert it and have an overall shorter tailspring, or should I just call Tra
vis
nd buy a new one, or are there any alternatives?
thanks,
Travis Bennett
ead this topic online here:
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It is on a Kolbra. I am pretty sure it is aluminum tube. I was planning on shortening
it but was not sure if there was a reason not to.
Thanks,
Travis Bennett
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It is on a Kolbra. I am pretty sure it is aluminum tube. I was planning on
shortening it but was not sure if there was a reason not to.
Thanks,
Travis Bennett
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
it should be solid alum rod. i left mine full length,,, some have
shortened theirs. my thought was if the rod is shortened, it will put
more shock load on the steel frame. then on the other hand,,, when longer
there is more spring,,, but a longer moment arm which would make things
bend with less force. pick your poison.
boyd young
mkiii utah.
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Mark the exit point with a felt tip and cut it there. The point where
they
eventually break, if it flexes enough times, is at that point.
You will be doing yourself a favor.
BB
On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:13 PM, tkben002 wrote:
>
> My tailspring is a little bent, atleast I think it is. When I look
> at pictures of other peoples planes the tailsprings look straight.
> Mine has a nice little curve to it. My question is, can I remove
> it, cut it off when it is bent, re insert it and have an overall
> shorter tailspring, or should I just call Travis and buy a new one,
> or are there any alternatives?
>
> thanks,
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350769#350769
>
>
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The Slingshot is VERY tail heavy, so after bending the tail wheel rod (more
than once I think), the builder fixed it permanently with a very stout leaf
spring. See photo below. It is probably overkill for Kolbs with lighter
tails.
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 2:16 PM, b young <byoungplumbing@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It is on a Kolbra. I am pretty sure it is aluminum tube. I was planning
> on shortening it but was not sure if there was a reason not to.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>> ..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> it should be solid alum rod. i left mine full length,,, some have
> shortened theirs. my thought was if the rod is shortened, it will put
> more shock load on the steel frame. then on the other hand,,, when longer
> there is more spring,,, but a longer moment arm which would make things
> bend with less force. pick your poison.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii utah.
>
>
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One thing that will happen if you straighten the tailwheel post is that it
will restore the kingpin angle to swept forward, like the manufacturer
intended, to keep the tailwheel from, for lack of a better term, fluttering.
Think of the wheel on a shopping cart that wobbles back and forth
uncommanded as you push the cart.
You can also replace the solid aluminum post with 4130 tube and it will be
a little lighter. 3/4" X .065" wall will work nicely. You can also have it
heat treated up to RC 130 to make it a true spring so it won't bend again.
Another thing you might consider it to change out the springs from tension
to compression so you don't have to worry about the hook breaking or pulling
out.
Rick Girard
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:28 PM, End User <slyck@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> Mark the exit point with a felt tip and cut it there. The point where they
> eventually break, if it flexes enough times, is at that point.
> You will be doing yourself a favor.
> BB
>
>
> On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:13 PM, tkben002 wrote:
>
>>
>> My tailspring is a little bent, atleast I think it is. When I look at
>> pictures of other peoples planes the tailsprings look straight. Mine has a
>> nice little curve to it. My question is, can I remove it, cut it off when
>> it is bent, re insert it and have an overall shorter tailspring, or should I
>> just call Travis and buy a new one, or are there any alternatives?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Travis Bennett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/**viewtopic.php?p=350769#350769<http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350769#350769>
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
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Well, I went ahead and took it off, and yep, it was bent. So, while I had it off
I cut off the first 7" or so and drilled a hole and now I have a shorter tailspring.
I will try it out tomorrow to see if there are any differences (expect
it to be stiffer).
Thom, What size tailwheel is that? What manufacturer?
Travis Bennett
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Travis,
My tailwheel is six inch diameter from Aviation Products, Inc. in California
(from the sticker on the side), probably available thru Aircraft Spruce.
Thom
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:20 PM, tkben002 <tkben002@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Well, I went ahead and took it off, and yep, it was bent. So, while I had
> it off I cut off the first 7" or so and drilled a hole and now I have a
> shorter tailspring. I will try it out tomorrow to see if there are any
> differences (expect it to be stiffer).
>
> Thom, What size tailwheel is that? What manufacturer?
>
> Travis Bennett
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350792#350792
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Travis,
You have moved the tailwheel forward enough that it has moved your CG
forward some amount. So be alert the next time you fly and see if you
can tell any difference.
Gene
On Aug 27, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Thom Riddle wrote:
> Travis,
>
> My tailwheel is six inch diameter from Aviation Products, Inc. in
California (from the sticker on the side), probably available thru
Aircraft Spruce.
>
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tkben002 wrote:
> . . . snip . . . . I will try it out tomorrow to see if there are any differences
(expect it to be stiffer).
> . . . snip. .
> Travis Bennett
For those of you who have done this, should he expect any difference in ground
handling or takeoff because of the tail being closer to the ground?
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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Subject: | Re: Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa |
At 08:34 AM 8/27/2011, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
>WHAT A PITY KULULA DOESN'T FLY INTERNATIONALLY - WE SHOULD SUPPORT
>THEM IF ONLY FOR THEIR HUMOUR - SO TYPICALLY SOUTH AFRICAN.
Although Kulula is known for quirky advertising, that list of comments is
old... really old. Typical internet thing, somebody tacks some new name
onto it to make it sound real and posts it as "new".
-Dana
do not archive
--
Bismark said God looks after fools, drunks, and the United
States.
He didn't say how long the Almighty's patience might endure.
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Subject: | Re: Kulula is an Airline in Johannesburg South Africa |
Thanks Dana,
The intended humor was not suitable for 'some' on this forum. I'll have to
start checking with Snopes .
http://www.snopes.com/
My Apology !
Dennis [Wink]
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
These flying machines are just a fad and will never catch on Unknown
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Subject: | 2/27/11 Glencoe Minnesota fly-in |
I flew the old Firestar to Glencoe this morning. It was a good fly-in with brats,
hot dogs, and corn on the cob. PIC's got a free meal.
Here are some pictures ...
log into Facebook:
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Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
24 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL (engine and avionics stolen on 5/17/11. Hanger break-in)
N20386
done flying it
150 hrs
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